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AYFKM Teejers?

David Shaw: 92-38, conference record 64-31, post-season record 5-3; PAC-12 titles: 3
Jerod Haase: 95-83, conference record 50-54, post-season record 1-1 (a single NIT bid); PAC-12 titles: 0.  Best finish: 3rd in conference

Even if you truncate Shaw’s record to 2016, when Haase started, Shaw has a 22-20 conference record, which is, at least, a winning record.  Haase has a losing conference record and has had exactly one winning conference seqson in his entire tenure at Stanford (we might limp to a second winning conference record this year); Shaw has done it all but two years in his tenure, including 4 times in the last six years. 

No, not kidding.

Which program do you think is in better shape right now, and looking forward for the next 2-3 years?

And if you think Stanford's 2019 season (Covid 4-2 year) was a good year for Stanford football, or the sign of a program in good shape, well, I wonder if you actually watched the games that year.  Stanford was a bad football team that year that was fortunate to go 4-2 against bad opponents.  Sagarin ratings confirm this (and they don't have an anti-Shaw bias . . . or does it?).

The reality is that Stanford is on a 3-year slide to oblivion under Coach Shaw.  The end of last season WAS AS BAD AS ANYTHING WE'VE EVER SEEN at Stanford.  [No need to rehash arguments on why I think fully crediting Shaw for Stanford's record from 2011-2015 is a fool's errand].

Will things get better next year?  We'll see.  I think only grounds for optimism are an O with a lot of returning talent (and hopefully an OL with more old man strength that can make things happen).  On D?  Yikes . . .

[teejers1]

AYFKM Teejers?

David Shaw: 92-38, conference record 64-31, post-season record 5-3; PAC-12 titles: 3
Jerod Haase: 95-83, conference record 50-54, post-season record 1-1 (a single NIT bid); PAC-12 titles: 0.  Best finish: 3rd in conference

Even if you truncate Shaw’s record to 2016, when Haase started, Shaw has a 22-20 conference record, which is, at least, a winning record.  Haase has a losing conference record and has had exactly one winning conference seqson in his entire tenure at Stanford (we might limp to a second winning conference record this year); Shaw has done it all but two years in his tenure, including 4 times in the last six years. 

No, not kidding.

Which program do you think is in better shape right now, and looking forward for the next 2-3 years?

And if you think Stanford's 2019 season (Covid 4-2 year) was a good year for Stanford football, or the sign of a program in good shape, well, I wonder if you actually watched the games that year.  Stanford was a bad football team that year that was fortunate to go 4-2 against bad opponents.  Sagarin ratings confirm this (and they don't have an anti-Shaw bias . . . or does it?).

The reality is that Stanford is on a 3-year slide to oblivion under Coach Shaw.  The end of last season WAS AS BAD AS ANYTHING WE'VE EVER SEEN at Stanford.  [No need to rehash arguments on why I think fully crediting Shaw for Stanford's record from 2011-2015 is a fool's errand].

Will things get better next year?  We'll see.  I think only grounds for optimism are an O with a lot of returning talent (and hopefully an OL with more old man strength that can make things happen).  On D?  Yikes . . .