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Brock Turner is one of the great apples-and-oranges cases of the last few years. Turner's pled-and-proven conduct is a prosaic violation of general criminal law, Penal C. Section 261 (a)(3), if you want chapter-and-verse. It no more belongs in a student disciplinary setting than robbery or homicide. A student who takes advantage of a coed who is slightly the worse for drink, somewhat disinhibited, may have done something ungentlemanly that is a proper subject for university discipline. A student who does the same thing to someone unconscious has committed a major felony.

I mention this because I've read a couple of accounts over the years (one from a Harvard undergrad) of female students who were violated when they were dead to the world. Someone victimized like that should not call the dorm resident. She should call the police.

As to the article, the one statistic that stuck with me was 10,000 administrators. Are you kidding? More administrators than students and faculty combined. Apparently what they mostly do is create work for themselves.

Great to see you in these parts again, GR.  Hope all is well.

Obviously, it is clear that the Turner case itself should have (and was) dealt with by the legal system.  I wonder whether the school's reaction to the dishonor brought to it by the Turner case resulted in a ratcheting up of enforcement against the other example you provided "A student who takes advantage of a coed who is slightly the worse for drink, somewhat disinhibited, may have done something ungentlemanly that is a proper subject for university discipline".  I can see the logic behind thinking that such cases, if left unchecked, lead to students thinking that it is ok to do the latter?  I could also believe that there is no association, and that the offenses are not differences in degree, but differences in kind.  There is likely data out there, but I don't know of it.

The number of administrators does seem excessive, but I would be interested to know what the definition of an "administrator" is in this context.  I don't believe that this refers to academic administrators, since the number exceeds the number of faculty, and academic administrators (up to and including MTL) are also faculty.  I suspect, in this context, administrators reflects a bunch of white collar workers who make the University work behind the scenes: contracts and grants specialists, communications folks, the bulk of the athletics department, house counsel, all the budgeting people, etc.  Again, 10,000 seems like a lot, but Stanford revenue is about $14 billion, and the total number of Stanford employees is 24,000; $580,000 of revenue per employee, which is within the range of what private companies in many industries do.

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[BostonCard]

Brock Turner is one of the great apples-and-oranges cases of the last few years. Turner's pled-and-proven conduct is a prosaic violation of general criminal law, Penal C. Section 261 (a)(3), if you want chapter-and-verse. It no more belongs in a student disciplinary setting than robbery or homicide. A student who takes advantage of a coed who is slightly the worse for drink, somewhat disinhibited, may have done something ungentlemanly that is a proper subject for university discipline. A student who does the same thing to someone unconscious has committed a major felony.

I mention this because I've read a couple of accounts over the years (one from a Harvard undergrad) of female students who were violated when they were dead to the world. Someone victimized like that should not call the dorm resident. She should call the police.

As to the article, the one statistic that stuck with me was 10,000 administrators. Are you kidding? More administrators than students and faculty combined. Apparently what they mostly do is create work for themselves.

Great to see you in these parts again, GR.  Hope all is well.

Obviously, it is clear that the Turner case itself should have (and was) dealt with by the legal system.  I wonder whether the school's reaction to the dishonor brought to it by the Turner case resulted in a ratcheting up of enforcement against the other example you provided "A student who takes advantage of a coed who is slightly the worse for drink, somewhat disinhibited, may have done something ungentlemanly that is a proper subject for university discipline".  I can see the logic behind thinking that such cases, if left unchecked, lead to students thinking that it is ok to do the latter?  I could also believe that there is no association, and that the offenses are not differences in degree, but differences in kind.  There is likely data out there, but I don't know of it.

The number of administrators does seem excessive, but I would be interested to know what the definition of an "administrator" is in this context.  I don't believe that this refers to academic administrators, since the number exceeds the number of faculty, and academic administrators (up to and including MTL) are also faculty.  I suspect, in this context, administrators reflects a bunch of white collar workers who make the University work behind the scenes: contracts and grants specialists, communications folks, the bulk of the athletics department, house counsel, all the budgeting people, etc.  Again, 10,000 seems like a lot, but Stanford revenue is about $14 billion, and the total number of Stanford employees is 24,000; $580,000 of revenue per employee, which is within the range of what private companies in many industries do.

BC