[Jamesy]

We've almost finished our round. Currently at +19 for the day, 9 strokes worse then every other team in the morning. We seem to collapse every postseason aside from 2019 when we surprised everyone. Is there some point where we explore a coaching change? Seems like the recruiting has been there but the results have not been.

Fire a coach that won a national championship five years ago, had two abbreviated COVID years (so basically only three full years since the national championship), and just won the Pac-12 tournament last year? In the three full years since the national championship, Stanford men's golf has made the NCAA Championship finals every year. 

I think the recent success of the women's golf team, for better or for worse, sets a very high bar for the men's golf team. Coach Ray has a very good resume (2 national championships, 5 conference titles). Anne Walker is approaching coaching legend status.

You're right, the men's team's results look a lot worse due to comparison with the women. In looking at the results over the past ten years (summary link below), the team isn't as bad over the past 5 years as I had thought. This year's team finished very similarly to the stretch from 2015-2018 where we had some really good teams (ranked in the top 5 going into NCAAs) that just fell apart in NCAAs, and that probably brought back some bad memories. That said, I recognize that several top 10 teams missed the NCAA championships, on both the men's and women's side, and I should accept more variation aside from the juggernaut that is the women's team. 

https://gostanford.com/sports/2014/9/10/209644988.aspx

[Jamesy]

We've almost finished our round. Currently at +19 for the day, 9 strokes worse then every other team in the morning. We seem to collapse every postseason aside from 2019 when we surprised everyone. Is there some point where we explore a coaching change? Seems like the recruiting has been there but the results have not been.

Fire a coach that won a national championship five years ago, had two abbreviated COVID years (so basically only three full years since the national championship), and just won the Pac-12 tournament last year? In the three full years since the national championship, Stanford men's golf has made the NCAA Championship finals every year. 

I think the recent success of the women's golf team, for better or for worse, sets a very high bar for the men's golf team. Coach Ray has a very good resume (2 national championships, 5 conference titles). Anne Walker is approaching coaching legend status.

You're right, the men's team's results look a lot worse due to comparison with the women. In looking at the results over the past ten years (summary link below), the team isn't as bad over the past 5 years as I had thought. This year's team finished very similarly to the stretch from 2015-2018 where we had some really good teams (ranked in the top 5 going into NCAAs) that just fell apart in NCAAs, and that probably brought back some bad memories. That said, I recognize that several top 10 teams missed the NCAA championships, on both the men's and women's side, and I should accept more variation aside from the juggernaut that is the women's team. 

https://gostanford.com/sports/2014/9/10/209644988.aspx