[petersalas]

We are talking about Tiffany Bird! When she’s reffing any Stanford game, I expect the worst. She hasn’t been as bad this season (so far), but she’s still Tiffany Bird. 

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- I pulled up the NCAA rulebook this morning and my read of it says that they got that lane violation call on Nunu wrong. The rulebook says (rule 8.f): "No opponent (player or bench personnel) shall disconcert (e.g., taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower." Nunu clearly wasn't in the lane, so they had to have called her for baiting, but you can't "bait" your own teammate. That was a point taken off the board in a crucial moment.

(jonnyss, it does not help to quote unknown rules or judgements.  The NCAA WBB rule book and the NCAA WBB case book are readily available.)

In the NCAA Basketball "2023-24 and 2024-25 Women’s Rules Book"
Rule 8.5.1.b
"The free-thrower shall not purposely fake a try nor shall the free-thrower’s
teammates and opponents purposely fake a violation."

It was a correct call, under the assumption that her jerking was faking a violation.  I would have worded the rule differently (because I don't think she faked a violation, whatever that means... maybe putting your foot above the lane?  No, both feet must be on the floor.)

On a different FT attempt, there was a violation by a LSU player because a foot was out of her lane.  Uncalled.

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...Stephenson ...

Stevenson


I disagree with the thought that a close loss suggests more close losses.  If you consider the refs fair but flawed, the game hung on how many calls favored one team or the other.  For instance, the travel call on Stevenson was a bad call - that took 2 points off the board for Stanford.  If we play a #5 team that closely, I think there's a good chance we'll be in at least the top 15 at the end of the season.

(I hadn't realized the distinction earlier but this is how I read the rules-- if you receive a pass with both feet on the floor, you can pivot on either, but if you end your dribble with both feet on the floor, you can lift one or both feet, but neither may touch the ground again while you have the ball.  Maybe Tiffany Bird confused the two when she made the bad call on Stevenson, but she should know better.)

I have been a supporter of Lepolo, but after watching this game, my opinion has changed that Lepolo is too deliberate for this offense. She's smart and good with the ball.  I'm not concerned about her shooting that much, but she will gum up and slow down the flow.  But, I haven't seen her that much in this offense; maybe she can play at a faster pace.

[petersalas]

We are talking about Tiffany Bird! When she’s reffing any Stanford game, I expect the worst. She hasn’t been as bad this season (so far), but she’s still Tiffany Bird. 

1733530608[/url]']

1733493854[/url]']

- I pulled up the NCAA rulebook this morning and my read of it says that they got that lane violation call on Nunu wrong. The rulebook says (rule 8.f): "No opponent (player or bench personnel) shall disconcert (e.g., taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower." Nunu clearly wasn't in the lane, so they had to have called her for baiting, but you can't "bait" your own teammate. That was a point taken off the board in a crucial moment.

(jonnyss, it does not help to quote unknown rules or judgements.  The NCAA WBB rule book and the NCAA WBB case book are readily available.)

In the NCAA Basketball "2023-24 and 2024-25 Women’s Rules Book"
Rule 8.5.1.b
"The free-thrower shall not purposely fake a try nor shall the free-thrower’s
teammates and opponents purposely fake a violation."

It was a correct call, under the assumption that her jerking was faking a violation.  I would have worded the rule differently (because I don't think she faked a violation, whatever that means... maybe putting your foot above the lane?  No, both feet must be on the floor.)

On a different FT attempt, there was a violation by a LSU player because a foot was out of her lane.  Uncalled.

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...Stephenson ...

Stevenson


I disagree with the thought that a close loss suggests more close losses.  If you consider the refs fair but flawed, the game hung on how many calls favored one team or the other.  For instance, the travel call on Stevenson was a bad call - that took 2 points off the board for Stanford.  If we play a #5 team that closely, I think there's a good chance we'll be in at least the top 15 at the end of the season.

(I hadn't realized the distinction earlier but this is how I read the rules-- if you receive a pass with both feet on the floor, you can pivot on either, but if you end your dribble with both feet on the floor, you can lift one or both feet, but neither may touch the ground again while you have the ball.  Maybe Tiffany Bird confused the two when she made the bad call on Stevenson, but she should know better.)

I have been a supporter of Lepolo, but after watching this game, my opinion has changed that Lepolo is too deliberate for this offense. She's smart and good with the ball.  I'm not concerned about her shooting that much, but she will gum up and slow down the flow.  But, I haven't seen her that much in this offense; maybe she can play at a faster pace.