[d4cohn]

WE should give serious consideration to giving up football.

BC

Football is the mechanism by which our (championships-winning) Olympic sports are supported. Plus let's see what the big new investment can bring in terms of at least getting us back to respectable performances.

Is it, though?  Given the reduced ACC TV rights, virtually nonexistent gameday revenue, and increased costs, I doubt football breaks even.

BC

Football allows us to be in a P4 conference, which is competitive/good enough to keep bringing in that top level talent. It keeps in play, if we can pull ourselves off the mat in football, a chance in the future to get into a P2 conference if/when college sports heads in that direction. Plus at some point in the future, there is the potential for greater P4/P2 money.

I can't think of a non P4 program that matches the all-around performance in the Olympic sports of Stanford and its other peers (e.g. UT, UVA, UNC etc.). To wit, the top non P4 performer in the Director's Cup (take the formula with the grain of salt) was Princeton at *No. 33*. So non P4 schools are simply not competitive in the Olympic sports overall.

[d4cohn]

WE should give serious consideration to giving up football.

BC

Football is the mechanism by which our (championships-winning) Olympic sports are supported. Plus let's see what the big new investment can bring in terms of at least getting us back to respectable performances.

Is it, though?  Given the reduced ACC TV rights, virtually nonexistent gameday revenue, and increased costs, I doubt football breaks even.

BC

Football allows us to be in a P4 conference, which is competitive/good enough to keep bringing in that top level talent. It keeps in play, if we can pull ourselves off the mat in football, a chance in the future to get into a P2 conference if/when college sports heads in that direction. Plus at some point in the future, there is the potential for greater P4/P2 money.

I can't think of a non P4 program that matches the all-around performance in the Olympic sports of Stanford and its other peers (e.g. UT, UVA, UNC etc.). To wit, the top non P4 performer in the Director's Cup (take the formula with the grain of salt) was Princeton at *No. 33*. So non P4 schools are simply not competitive in the Olympic sports overall.