[FarmTeam]

Wow I so disagree. The university was certainly at fault.  Thankful we have a new administration

100% agree with BobK. Although very hard to quantify, I wonder what was the impact of the bad publicity on the University's reputation, particularly to families of prospective student athletes. Wish I knew who within the University was responsible for green lighting three years of litigation against the Meyer family. #morons

Well, you're both wrong. :-) In no world does sending a notice of disciplinary action constitute "fault" for a 22 year old then committing suicide. Think about how soft our society -- and Gen Z -- is if we think that's the case. It's moot now, but I suspect you're mixing up sympathy for the family and sadness about the tragedy with a clear-eyed view on these things. What's next? Counselors before issuing speeding tickets?

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Wow I so disagree. The university was certainly at fault.  Thankful we have a new administration

100% agree with BobK. Although very hard to quantify, I wonder what was the impact of the bad publicity on the University's reputation, particularly to families of prospective student athletes. Wish I knew who within the University was responsible for green lighting three years of litigation against the Meyer family. #morons

I'm a Stanford person (undergrad and grad), politically liberal for whatever that's worth, tend to be knee-jerk sympathetic to the plight of students and athletes. But I'm also a realist and you all are confusing sympathy with fault. Did you think Stanford is responsible for every bad thing that happens to a student? Like Weiner's death from a recreational fentanyl overdose? Sometimes terrible things happen to good people. And if they happen to be Stanford students, that doesn't automatically make it the University's fault. It's laughable -- to the point of being SNL skit worthy -- to suggest that emailing a disciplinary sanction was reckless and "caused" the suicide of an adult recipient. It's pure fantasy.

[FarmTeam]

Wow I so disagree. The university was certainly at fault.  Thankful we have a new administration

100% agree with BobK. Although very hard to quantify, I wonder what was the impact of the bad publicity on the University's reputation, particularly to families of prospective student athletes. Wish I knew who within the University was responsible for green lighting three years of litigation against the Meyer family. #morons

Well, you're both wrong. :-) In no world does sending a notice of disciplinary action constitute "fault" for a 22 year old then committing suicide. Think about how soft our society -- and Gen Z -- is if we think that's the case. It's moot now, but I suspect you're mixing up sympathy for the family and sadness about the tragedy with a clear-eyed view on these things. What's next? Counselors before issuing speeding tickets?

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Wow I so disagree. The university was certainly at fault.  Thankful we have a new administration

100% agree with BobK. Although very hard to quantify, I wonder what was the impact of the bad publicity on the University's reputation, particularly to families of prospective student athletes. Wish I knew who within the University was responsible for green lighting three years of litigation against the Meyer family. #morons

I'm a Stanford person (undergrad and grad), politically liberal for whatever that's worth, tend to be knee-jerk sympathetic to the plight of students and athletes. But I'm also a realist and you all are confusing sympathy with fault. Did you think Stanford is responsible for every bad thing that happens to a student? Like Weiner's death from a recreational fentanyl overdose? Sometimes terrible things happen to good people. And if they happen to be Stanford students, that doesn't automatically make it the University's fault. It's laughable -- to the point of being SNL skit worthy -- to suggest that emailing a disciplinary sanction was reckless and "caused" the suicide of an adult recipient. It's pure fantasy.