[RandyB]

[quote author=DC link=topic=9207.msg79182#msg79182 date=1387604743]
I don't see Pritchard improving Hogan's throwing mechanics however.

Setting aside the debate on whether Hogan's mechanics really are bad and if "fixing" them would lead to Hogan being a better QB for a second, and granting the implicit message that Pritchard had bad mechanics himself, what makes you think that someone with imperfect throwing mechanics cannot help a QB improve his throwing mechanics. 
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DC can speak for him/herself, but maybe this wasn't a comment on Tavita's coaching abilities but rather a comment on how hard it is to change from a long to compact throwing motion.  My experience comes from working with pitchers, but it's not that different from throwing a football.  I would sometimes try to get righties to shorten up their release when making a move to first base, because a quicker, more compact motion gets the ball over there faster.  Largely a waste of time:  the guys with long motions were pretty much incapable of making the change to a "short-arm" throw and still maintaining any accuracy.  The motion is just too ingrained from 10's of 1000's of reps.

Some other comments general to this thread.  There is a difference between a long motion and a slow release.  You can have a long motion and still have a fairly quick release.  In fact, Shaw is on record as saying Hogan has a quick release (take it for what it's worth  :P).  On the other hand, Chryst has a relatively more compact motion but his release isn't all that quick (Dilfer criticized Chryst in the Elite 11 competition as having a slow release).  I haven't put a stopwatch to it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hogan's release was just as (or almost as) fast as Chryst's.  If you want to see a quick, compact motion, take a look at Burns's video.  His release is much closer to the Aaron Rogers-type release that qb coaches probably covet.  Also, I don't think the fact that Chryst puts more loft on his throws is a function of better mechanics, but rather a stronger arm.  Finally, I don't see the "sidearm" delivery with Hogan that some talk about.  Maybe not straight over the top, but certainly close enough to be acceptable.

[RandyB]

[quote author=DC link=topic=9207.msg79182#msg79182 date=1387604743]
I don't see Pritchard improving Hogan's throwing mechanics however.

Setting aside the debate on whether Hogan's mechanics really are bad and if "fixing" them would lead to Hogan being a better QB for a second, and granting the implicit message that Pritchard had bad mechanics himself, what makes you think that someone with imperfect throwing mechanics cannot help a QB improve his throwing mechanics. 
BC
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DC can speak for him/herself, but maybe this wasn't a comment on Tavita's coaching abilities but rather a comment on how hard it is to change from a long to compact throwing motion.  My experience comes from working with pitchers, but it's not that different from throwing a football.  I would sometimes try to get righties to shorten up their release when making a move to first base, because a quicker, more compact motion gets the ball over there faster.  Largely a waste of time:  the guys with long motions were pretty much incapable of making the change to a "short-arm" throw and still maintaining any accuracy.  The motion is just too ingrained from 10's of 1000's of reps.

Some other comments general to this thread.  There is a difference between a long motion and a slow release.  You can have a long motion and still have a fairly quick release.  In fact, Shaw is on record as saying Hogan has a quick release (take it for what it's worth  :P).  On the other hand, Chryst has a relatively more compact motion but his release isn't all that quick (Dilfer criticized Chryst in the Elite 11 competition as having a slow release).  I haven't put a stopwatch to it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hogan's release was just as (or almost as) fast as Chryst's.  If you want to see a quick, compact motion, take a look at Burns's video.  His release is much closer to the Aaron Rogers-type release that qb coaches probably covet.  Also, I don't think the fact that Chryst puts more loft on his throws is a function of better mechanics, but rather a stronger arm.  Finally, I don't see the "sidearm" delivery with Hogan that some talk about.  Maybe not straight over the top, but certainly close enough to be acceptable.