[Ratmandoo]

I think the key to the whole mechanics argument is what it repeatable. Repeatable release point, balance, and footwork are all key to accuracy. So if someone has a "funky" motion, it doesn't necessarily mean he has poor mechanics.

Hulk's example of Jim Furyk is perfect. That's about as awkward a swing as you can imagine but Furyk has amazing hand-eye coordination and timing. It doesn't matter how his swing gets there, his ball striking is impeccable. It's really just amazing that he can repeat that jerky, ugly swing again and again. However, this isn't a swing you would teach to anyone else as it would be just about impossible to emulate.

And then there's Matthew Stafford, who generally looks good throwing the ball, but his mechanics are all over the place. He has such a ridiculous arm that he's developed a ton of bad habits like throwing side arm, off his back foot, etc. and goes into terrible funks where his accuracy goes down the drain.

For Hogan, his wind up does look long and funky but he's been fairly effective if inconsistent at times this year. With a longer wind up, it is much harder to repeat the same motions because there are so many more moving parts.  So I think Hogan's extended lapses in accuracy are when he loses his mechanics (i.e. his release point is off) and it takes him a little longer to get them back. A more compact fluid motion seems more repeatable but for anyone who's spent a lifetime throwing a certain way, changing may not be possible.

I don't think the release time is an issue for Hogan but rather anticipating throws on the intermediate routes and making quicker decisions. 

Just my two cents. I may not know what I'm talking about but this just seems to make sense.

[Ratmandoo]

I think the key to the whole mechanics argument is what it repeatable. Repeatable release point, balance, and footwork are all key to accuracy. So if someone has a "funky" motion, it doesn't necessarily mean he has poor mechanics.

Hulk's example of Jim Furyk is perfect. That's about as awkward a swing as you can imagine but Furyk has amazing hand-eye coordination and timing. It doesn't matter how his swing gets there, his ball striking is impeccable. It's really just amazing that he can repeat that jerky, ugly swing again and again. However, this isn't a swing you would teach to anyone else as it would be just about impossible to emulate.

And then there's Matthew Stafford, who generally looks good throwing the ball, but his mechanics are all over the place. He has such a ridiculous arm that he's developed a ton of bad habits like throwing side arm, off his back foot, etc. and goes into terrible funks where his accuracy goes down the drain.

For Hogan, his wind up does look long and funky but he's been fairly effective if inconsistent at times this year. With a longer wind up, it is much harder to repeat the same motions because there are so many more moving parts.  So I think Hogan's extended lapses in accuracy are when he loses his mechanics (i.e. his release point is off) and it takes him a little longer to get them back. A more compact fluid motion seems more repeatable but for anyone who's spent a lifetime throwing a certain way, changing may not be possible.

I don't think the release time is an issue for Hogan but rather anticipating throws on the intermediate routes and making quicker decisions. 

Just my two cents. I may not know what I'm talking about but this just seems to make sense.