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In baseball there are great players and HOF players, and the GPs are a very small subset of the HOFP's, plus a few outliers.  Rose and Shoeless Joe will always each be one of the very few outliers amongst that set of the very few (less than 50) players who deserved to be called "great," but neither will be in the HOF (at least in my lifetime).

I am sure this will kill my respect score, but I don't think what Shoeless Joe did and what Pete did are remotely comparable.  One bet on his team to win.  One took money to lose.  Both broke the rules, but with different intentions and different results.  Rick Neuheisal broke the rules, too, and although awkward to place in the same paragraph as Joe and Pete, his transgression was betting yet went on to coaching jobs and analyst jobs.  If Pete solely bet on his team to win, I see no difference between that and a horse owner betting on his horse to win.  Except one is against the rules and the other isn't.

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In baseball there are great players and HOF players, and the GPs are a very small subset of the HOFP's, plus a few outliers.  Rose and Shoeless Joe will always each be one of the very few outliers amongst that set of the very few (less than 50) players who deserved to be called "great," but neither will be in the HOF (at least in my lifetime).

I am sure this will kill my respect score, but I don't think what Shoeless Joe did and what Pete did are remotely comparable.  One bet on his team to win.  One took money to lose.  Both broke the rules, but with different intentions and different results.  Rick Neuheisal broke the rules, too, and although awkward to place in the same paragraph as Joe and Pete, his transgression was betting yet went on to coaching jobs and analyst jobs.  If Pete solely bet on his team to win, I see no difference between that and a horse owner betting on his horse to win.  Except one is against the rules and the other isn't.