[Farm93]

But then, using Terry's and Yogi's guidance, if those H1B visa immigrants are leaving as you say to benefit the other 49 states, doesn't that imply that they are voting with their feet?  Further, the element that is referred to obliquely in your post but not really explicitly discussed in any of our posts is the impact of illegal immigration on these numbers.  I suspect, since the numbers are generated from tax filings, that there are a significant number of these missing from the database.

It is a multigenerational thing.  The foreign immigrants come to California, and New York.  Many are poor, but not all.  Either way, they settle in California driving up demand for things, changing the community culture, etc.

Their children, born in the USA, and other American born citizens likely recognize that their version of the American dream might be easier to obtain in places in the USA.  Therefore they leave, but they wouldn't need to if the demand from new immigrants magically disappeared.

This has been common for decades now.  So any methodology that convenient excludes the potential for foreign born immigration bringing wealth with them will almost certainly show California as a place where wealth is leaving.  My Indian born tenants of my Bay Area home are rather wealthy and have annual income that pushes them comfortably into the top 2 or 3%.  Happy to have them as my tenants even if it means that some other native California family can't afford to rent my home.    Immigrants - IN!  Native Borns - Somewhere else.  :)

[Farm93]

But then, using Terry's and Yogi's guidance, if those H1B visa immigrants are leaving as you say to benefit the other 49 states, doesn't that imply that they are voting with their feet?  Further, the element that is referred to obliquely in your post but not really explicitly discussed in any of our posts is the impact of illegal immigration on these numbers.  I suspect, since the numbers are generated from tax filings, that there are a significant number of these missing from the database.

It is a multigenerational thing.  The foreign immigrants come to California, and New York.  Many are poor, but not all.  Either way, they settle in California driving up demand for things, changing the community culture, etc.

Their children, born in the USA, and other American born citizens likely recognize that their version of the American dream might be easier to obtain in places in the USA.  Therefore they leave, but they wouldn't need to if the demand from new immigrants magically disappeared.

This has been common for decades now.  So any methodology that convenient excludes the potential for foreign born immigration bringing wealth with them will almost certainly show California as a place where wealth is leaving.  My Indian born tenants of my Bay Area home are rather wealthy and have annual income that pushes them comfortably into the top 2 or 3%.  Happy to have them as my tenants even if it means that some other native California family can't afford to rent my home.    Immigrants - IN!  Native Borns - Somewhere else.  :)