[NDIrish]

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=10754.msg99855#msg99855 date=1412092725]
[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=10754.msg99851#msg99851 date=1412092154]
Really?  Shaw is the perfect fit for Stanford, an alum, a great coach and a fine ambassador for the school.  the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends has been hit with nothing but scandal after scandal since Kelly arrived, he generally looks as if his head is going to explode on the sidelines and he seems much more like a liability to the school than an ambassador.  Kids go to Stanford because of Shaw; kids go to the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends despite Kelly.

I agree with Simas: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends has not seen a defense like Stanford.  Golson better be every bit the QB you think he is, because he's going to be running for his life all afternoon.  The only thing that will keep the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends in this game is Stanford's red zone woes. 

I expect a low scoring game with Stanford coming out on top 20-13 in OT.  Golson is turned back on 4th down at the goal line after he trips on a term paper someone was writing for one of the the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends players that was blown onto the field by the ghost of Teo's fake girlfriend in a valiant effort to aid the team of her former school.

OK, so i thought this would be a game where i could come to the opposing teams message board and have an actual discussion about the game and get into specifics, but apparently not. 

To clarify, I have nothing but respect for stanford AND shaw.  I think he is a great fit and a perfect fit for Stanford.  But i was asking specifically about coaching techniques.  I think kelly has done more with less, but Shaw has been able to maintain what he has, so that is great to. 

I was trying to keep this discussion about the game, but you can keep bashing ND for their mistakes, cause i am sure Stanford has always been perfect?  I guess their is no mutual respect between universities that have higher standards. 
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Don't be a martyr.  You'll have a fine discussion on this board with smart people, and they aren't bad people, they're pretty good folks.  But universities that have spotty disciplinary records are fair game, especially when their athletes invoke imaginary girlfriends who are Stanford students.

Separately, I would disagree with the above Kelly v. Shaw statement simply because Stanford cannot recruit a lot of athletes that N.D. can recruit.  With a much broader base, Kelly will always have the advantage.
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What do you mean by broader base?  I would think that stanford would have an advantage in recruiting because of location and especially with all the problems at usc.  Its hard to convince a kid to spend his winters here compared to cal...  What kind of recruit can ND recruit that Stanford cant?  Unless you are talking about academics, which goes back to my previous question...

[NDIrish]

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=10754.msg99855#msg99855 date=1412092725]
[quote author=SeattleTree link=topic=10754.msg99851#msg99851 date=1412092154]
Really?  Shaw is the perfect fit for Stanford, an alum, a great coach and a fine ambassador for the school.  the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends has been hit with nothing but scandal after scandal since Kelly arrived, he generally looks as if his head is going to explode on the sidelines and he seems much more like a liability to the school than an ambassador.  Kids go to Stanford because of Shaw; kids go to the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends despite Kelly.

I agree with Simas: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends has not seen a defense like Stanford.  Golson better be every bit the QB you think he is, because he's going to be running for his life all afternoon.  The only thing that will keep the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends in this game is Stanford's red zone woes. 

I expect a low scoring game with Stanford coming out on top 20-13 in OT.  Golson is turned back on 4th down at the goal line after he trips on a term paper someone was writing for one of the the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends players that was blown onto the field by the ghost of Teo's fake girlfriend in a valiant effort to aid the team of her former school.

OK, so i thought this would be a game where i could come to the opposing teams message board and have an actual discussion about the game and get into specifics, but apparently not. 

To clarify, I have nothing but respect for stanford AND shaw.  I think he is a great fit and a perfect fit for Stanford.  But i was asking specifically about coaching techniques.  I think kelly has done more with less, but Shaw has been able to maintain what he has, so that is great to. 

I was trying to keep this discussion about the game, but you can keep bashing ND for their mistakes, cause i am sure Stanford has always been perfect?  I guess their is no mutual respect between universities that have higher standards. 
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Don't be a martyr.  You'll have a fine discussion on this board with smart people, and they aren't bad people, they're pretty good folks.  But universities that have spotty disciplinary records are fair game, especially when their athletes invoke imaginary girlfriends who are Stanford students.

Separately, I would disagree with the above Kelly v. Shaw statement simply because Stanford cannot recruit a lot of athletes that N.D. can recruit.  With a much broader base, Kelly will always have the advantage.
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What do you mean by broader base?  I would think that stanford would have an advantage in recruiting because of location and especially with all the problems at usc.  Its hard to convince a kid to spend his winters here compared to cal...  What kind of recruit can ND recruit that Stanford cant?  Unless you are talking about academics, which goes back to my previous question...