[FarmBoy]

BUT in another thread that many of you commented on (http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php/...92d3ce37f4) you talk about how your glad you didn't end with winston OR how stanford would have turned him into a "stanford man".  If it is so hard for an athlete (speaking ONLY of them, not the general population), how are you guys really discussing about wishing or not wishing that stanford would have gotten Winston?

Now, i do not doubt that stanford has some kids that play football and are at least twice as smart as i am, or smarter than some of ND football players, but it really make me doubt that EVERY stanford football player is only that level, something that it seems like you guys like imply. 

I'm not sure what your question is about. With all the news on Winston, it's natural for us to speculate on what would have been had he chosen Stanford over FSU. They are very different environments, and perhaps Stanford would have brought out the better angels of his nature. Or maybe not.

I have a hard time speculating on the intelligence of players who we do or don't get. I've heard of examples of a player being denied admission to Stanford but then being accepted at an Ivy League school. But who knows what the real story is. Only the players know for sure whether they were rejected over academics.

I doubt anyone is making any assumptions of how smart the Stanford players are vs. you personally, for what it's worth. And we know there are lots of players at other schools who could have made it through Stanford admissions but either weren't recruited or chose to go elsewhere. We're talking "on average" here. On average, Stanford players are going to be more academically inclined because you have to commit to a heavier course load. For example, a player needs to take 2 AP classes and be performing well in them to be considered. Lots of high school seniors with offers from ND or elsewhere are happy to take the easy route rather than meet that bar.

I'm sure that there are a number of players on NDs roster who would have made it through the admissions process. But on average, ND players won't have the academic resume of their Stanford counterparts.

[FarmBoy]

BUT in another thread that many of you commented on (http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php/...92d3ce37f4) you talk about how your glad you didn't end with winston OR how stanford would have turned him into a "stanford man".  If it is so hard for an athlete (speaking ONLY of them, not the general population), how are you guys really discussing about wishing or not wishing that stanford would have gotten Winston?

Now, i do not doubt that stanford has some kids that play football and are at least twice as smart as i am, or smarter than some of ND football players, but it really make me doubt that EVERY stanford football player is only that level, something that it seems like you guys like imply. 

I'm not sure what your question is about. With all the news on Winston, it's natural for us to speculate on what would have been had he chosen Stanford over FSU. They are very different environments, and perhaps Stanford would have brought out the better angels of his nature. Or maybe not.

I have a hard time speculating on the intelligence of players who we do or don't get. I've heard of examples of a player being denied admission to Stanford but then being accepted at an Ivy League school. But who knows what the real story is. Only the players know for sure whether they were rejected over academics.

I doubt anyone is making any assumptions of how smart the Stanford players are vs. you personally, for what it's worth. And we know there are lots of players at other schools who could have made it through Stanford admissions but either weren't recruited or chose to go elsewhere. We're talking "on average" here. On average, Stanford players are going to be more academically inclined because you have to commit to a heavier course load. For example, a player needs to take 2 AP classes and be performing well in them to be considered. Lots of high school seniors with offers from ND or elsewhere are happy to take the easy route rather than meet that bar.

I'm sure that there are a number of players on NDs roster who would have made it through the admissions process. But on average, ND players won't have the academic resume of their Stanford counterparts.