[stupac2]

Fine, but you still haven't told me which of those teams you would classify as "horrible".
Let me put it this way. If you are giving 3-4 TD's, I'm taking FSU.
As I'm sure you recall, Oregon destroyed some teams that we just squeaked by (or lost to) in 2012. Who won the game when we played them?

Well, first, I never actually said that I was giving them 4 TDs, I said that I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon won by 4 TDs, that's a pretty large difference. Second, NC State is horrible, the rest of them are merely pretty bad (OMG, HYPERBOLE, YOU GOT ME).

Also, I'm starting to think you just didn't read what I wrote. I said that barring some kind of craziness I don't see how FSU keeps it close. It's basically exactly the same as our game in 2012. If we play Oregon 10 times they win 7 or 8, and I don't think anyone here really doubts that. We played crazy well that game in a way that's not always reproducible. FSU could do that and pull off the upset, being a 9 point dog means you win 20-25% of the time. But by the same token, about as often as that the favorite wins big.

[stupac2]

Fine, but you still haven't told me which of those teams you would classify as "horrible".
Let me put it this way. If you are giving 3-4 TD's, I'm taking FSU.
As I'm sure you recall, Oregon destroyed some teams that we just squeaked by (or lost to) in 2012. Who won the game when we played them?

Well, first, I never actually said that I was giving them 4 TDs, I said that I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon won by 4 TDs, that's a pretty large difference. Second, NC State is horrible, the rest of them are merely pretty bad (OMG, HYPERBOLE, YOU GOT ME).

Also, I'm starting to think you just didn't read what I wrote. I said that barring some kind of craziness I don't see how FSU keeps it close. It's basically exactly the same as our game in 2012. If we play Oregon 10 times they win 7 or 8, and I don't think anyone here really doubts that. We played crazy well that game in a way that's not always reproducible. FSU could do that and pull off the upset, being a 9 point dog means you win 20-25% of the time. But by the same token, about as often as that the favorite wins big.