[pefloresjr]

The personal foul for the late shove was the kind of foul that a ref often calls instinctively.  It was clearly after the play was over, was not related to the normal engagement between players, and was visually done right out in the open.  That is not usually a "no harm, no foul" situation.  Also, it was needed to keep things from escalating.  Anderson got right in the Cal player's face after the late hit and they had to be separated.  If the refs just warned the players or let it go, the cheap shots would have definitely escalated.  Also, the refs are working and warning players throughout a game.  I saw a few times when refs separated players who were still at each other (usually involved with sustaining blocks after the whistle) and walked one of the players away while talking to him.  I assume they were being warned/counseled about the limits of their conduct.  The Cal player knew he was out of line and taking a cheap shot, no warning was needed. 

Cheers,
Pete F.

[pefloresjr]

The personal foul for the late shove was the kind of foul that a ref often calls instinctively.  It was clearly after the play was over, was not related to the normal engagement between players, and was visually done right out in the open.  That is not usually a "no harm, no foul" situation.  Also, it was needed to keep things from escalating.  Anderson got right in the Cal player's face after the late hit and they had to be separated.  If the refs just warned the players or let it go, the cheap shots would have definitely escalated.  Also, the refs are working and warning players throughout a game.  I saw a few times when refs separated players who were still at each other (usually involved with sustaining blocks after the whistle) and walked one of the players away while talking to him.  I assume they were being warned/counseled about the limits of their conduct.  The Cal player knew he was out of line and taking a cheap shot, no warning was needed. 

Cheers,
Pete F.

[fullmetal]

I don't know if this is relevant or not, but when I was younger, I disregarded all speed limit signs in all situations. Not surprisingly, I got several speeding tickets, but none of them changed my driving habits. You know what did? The time an officer gave me a warning instead of a ticket. After looking at my record, he took the time to talk to me and explained that with a list of infractions like I had, no officer would ever let me go without a ticket. He was letting me off with a warning, and he encouraged me to slow down. And I actually listened. Sometimes a warning makes sense.

Hank, you must be an excellent teacher :)

[fullmetal]

I don't know if this is relevant or not, but when I was younger, I disregarded all speed limit signs in all situations. Not surprisingly, I got several speeding tickets, but none of them changed my driving habits. You know what did? The time an officer gave me a warning instead of a ticket. After looking at my record, he took the time to talk to me and explained that with a list of infractions like I had, no officer would ever let me go without a ticket. He was letting me off with a warning, and he encouraged me to slow down. And I actually listened. Sometimes a warning makes sense.

Hank, you must be an excellent teacher :)