[OutsiderFan]

It seems to me Stanford's lack of dominance in the trenches may be being mirrored by an increase in number of players missing games due to injury this season.  Yes, we know, every team has injuries. But this year seems to be especially bleak for Stanford, and it started in the off season. I wanted to compile a list, just to try getting a sense for how injuries and the inconsistency that comes as a result, might be impacting the 2018 team's performance.  The following players have missed time due to injury by my count. Please add anyone I missed.

Offense
QB KJ Costello (Out all of Spring)
QB Davis Mills
RB Bryce Love
RB Trevor Speights
WR Connor Wedington
C Jesse Burkett
OT Foster Sarell
OT AT Hall
OT/OG Devery Hamilton
OG Nate Herbig
WR JJ Arcega-Whiteside

And I'm fairly certain OG Brandon Fanaika and OT Walker Little have been dinged up as well.

Defense
DT Bo Peek
DE Jovan Swann (it looks like he didn't play against UW, and Schaffer did instead)
OLB Curtis Robinson
OLB Joey Alfieri
OLB Casey Toohill
S Ben Edwards
S Malik Antoine
S Brandon Simmons
CB Alijah Holder

K Jet Toner 

By my count, this is 20 players not including Costello (I put him on here because maybe with more Spring reps, the O coaches feel better about opening up the offense earlier in the season).  Anyway, this seems like an excessive amount to me.  is it a coincidence in terms of more injuries coinciding with softer play in the trenches?  Want to know what y'all think.

It used to be there maybe would be 4-5 guys out with injury for an extended period, but no time can I ever remember half the 2-deep missing games due to injury.

[OutsiderFan]

It seems to me Stanford's lack of dominance in the trenches may be being mirrored by an increase in number of players missing games due to injury this season.  Yes, we know, every team has injuries. But this year seems to be especially bleak for Stanford, and it started in the off season. I wanted to compile a list, just to try getting a sense for how injuries and the inconsistency that comes as a result, might be impacting the 2018 team's performance.  The following players have missed time due to injury by my count. Please add anyone I missed.

Offense
QB KJ Costello (Out all of Spring)
QB Davis Mills
RB Bryce Love
RB Trevor Speights
WR Connor Wedington
C Jesse Burkett
OT Foster Sarell
OT AT Hall
OT/OG Devery Hamilton
OG Nate Herbig
WR JJ Arcega-Whiteside

And I'm fairly certain OG Brandon Fanaika and OT Walker Little have been dinged up as well.

Defense
DT Bo Peek
DE Jovan Swann (it looks like he didn't play against UW, and Schaffer did instead)
OLB Curtis Robinson
OLB Joey Alfieri
OLB Casey Toohill
S Ben Edwards
S Malik Antoine
S Brandon Simmons
CB Alijah Holder

K Jet Toner 

By my count, this is 20 players not including Costello (I put him on here because maybe with more Spring reps, the O coaches feel better about opening up the offense earlier in the season).  Anyway, this seems like an excessive amount to me.  is it a coincidence in terms of more injuries coinciding with softer play in the trenches?  Want to know what y'all think.

It used to be there maybe would be 4-5 guys out with injury for an extended period, but no time can I ever remember half the 2-deep missing games due to injury.

[82lsju]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

[82lsju]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

[BostonCard]

Good point.  Also add Alijah holder who has been playing injured.

It is worth noting that pretty much the entire Offensive Line has been injured at one point or another (including what we suspect is Little being signed up).  Certainly correlates with its poor play.

The question is whether this is just bad luck or if something else is going on.  Injuries are expected to be randomly distributed and sometimes you have a few and sometimes you have a lot.  But the uptake has also correlated to Turley’s promotion to oversee all the athletic trainers and not just overseeing football.

BC

[BostonCard]

Good point.  Also add Alijah holder who has been playing injured.

It is worth noting that pretty much the entire Offensive Line has been injured at one point or another (including what we suspect is Little being signed up).  Certainly correlates with its poor play.

The question is whether this is just bad luck or if something else is going on.  Injuries are expected to be randomly distributed and sometimes you have a few and sometimes you have a lot.  But the uptake has also correlated to Turley’s promotion to oversee all the athletic trainers and not just overseeing football.

BC

[winflop]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

[winflop]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

[CowboyIndian]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

It may have been bad because of the situation it nullified, but it was neither stupid nor inexcusable since he was being held and was using a swim move to free himself. Should have been a UW penalty.

[CowboyIndian]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

It may have been bad because of the situation it nullified, but it was neither stupid nor inexcusable since he was being held and was using a swim move to free himself. Should have been a UW penalty.

[qwerty49]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

It may have been bad because of the situation it nullified, but it was neither stupid nor inexcusable since he was being held and was using a swim move to free himself. Should have been a UW penalty.

True, but it seemed like he didn't see the field much after that play.  I don't think I heard his number called at all in the second half.  I wonder if Shaw or Lance sat him.

[qwerty49]

Swann played, most notably the hands to the face penalty early in the game........

Just the latest game where he's had a bad/stupid/inexcusable penalty

It may have been bad because of the situation it nullified, but it was neither stupid nor inexcusable since he was being held and was using a swim move to free himself. Should have been a UW penalty.

True, but it seemed like he didn't see the field much after that play.  I don't think I heard his number called at all in the second half.  I wonder if Shaw or Lance sat him.

[CowboyIndian]

True, but it seemed like he didn't see the field much after that play.  I don't think I heard his number called at all in the second half.  I wonder if Shaw or Lance sat him.

I read somewhere else that they were working in some of the freshmen in his place. I think so.

[CowboyIndian]

True, but it seemed like he didn't see the field much after that play.  I don't think I heard his number called at all in the second half.  I wonder if Shaw or Lance sat him.

I read somewhere else that they were working in some of the freshmen in his place. I think so.

[stupac2]

This occurred to me as well. I think if you go through projected starters on offense we now have two that haven't experienced injury: Smith and Irwin (maybe you add Parkinson if you think we're running 12 or he's a big WR).

The frustrating thing is that even with that we've been so close to meeting the high expectations for this season, and we've been blowing it in horrible ways (I think better game management gets us to OT against WSU and beats UW, but that's a different thread).

[stupac2]

This occurred to me as well. I think if you go through projected starters on offense we now have two that haven't experienced injury: Smith and Irwin (maybe you add Parkinson if you think we're running 12 or he's a big WR).

The frustrating thing is that even with that we've been so close to meeting the high expectations for this season, and we've been blowing it in horrible ways (I think better game management gets us to OT against WSU and beats UW, but that's a different thread).