05-28-2019, 02:39 PM
(05-28-2019, 02:32 PM)Canalejas Wrote: Regions sorted by average Massey Rating
Wow. We are in the toughest regional by a magnitude brobdingnagian.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(05-28-2019, 02:39 PM)martyup Wrote:(05-28-2019, 02:32 PM)Canalejas Wrote: Regions sorted by average Massey Rating
Wow. We are in the toughest regional by a magnitude of immense proportions.
(05-28-2019, 02:39 PM)martyup Wrote:(05-28-2019, 02:32 PM)Canalejas Wrote: Regions sorted by average Massey Rating
Wow. We are in the toughest regional by a magnitude of immense proportions.
(05-28-2019, 02:57 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The data out of these regional seedings make it look like a conspiracy against Stanford by any objective measure. Esquer and Muir should be fuming at the NCAA Baseball committee and demanding answers. How can they possibly explain what they did to Stanford?
(05-28-2019, 02:57 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The data out of these regional seedings make it look like a conspiracy against Stanford by any objective measure. Esquer and Muir should be fuming at the NCAA Baseball committee and demanding answers. How can they possibly explain what they did to Stanford?
(05-28-2019, 05:28 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I agree that this is not an issue of conspiracy, but rather an issue of the fact that all the breaks went against us.
Let's see... the committee decided to deviate from the RPI, but did so to move us down. It would have been one thing if the committee stood pat on RPI, but it made the elective decision to downgrade us. On what basis? There was no other metric in which we performed worse than RPI. Not any of the polls, not any of the other computer rankings. Nothing.
But OK, maybe the committee makes up for the fact that it underseeded us by pairing us with someone who was overseeded in the super-regional. Then at least it is acknowledgement that despite the underseeding, in terms of practical aspects, we would play one of the easier teams in the super regional. But no, Mississippi state is also underseeded, and is probably better than the 6th seed it got. By RPI, they are #4, for example, as they are by Massey rating. So, the committee did no favors to Stanford (or Mississippi State either) by pairing two teams that were under-rated.
So maybe the committee makes up for the fact that it gave us a tough super-regional opponent both by underseeding us and underseeding our opponents. Surely they will make up for it by giving us a clear path to the super-regional by pairing us with easier regional opponents. But nope, the committee screwed us, again, by giving us a particularly difficult regional.
This was brutal.
BC
(05-28-2019, 05:28 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I agree that this is not an issue of conspiracy, but rather an issue of the fact that all the breaks went against us.
Let's see... the committee decided to deviate from the RPI, but did so to move us down. It would have been one thing if the committee stood pat on RPI, but it made the elective decision to downgrade us. On what basis? There was no other metric in which we performed worse than RPI. Not any of the polls, not any of the other computer rankings. Nothing.
But OK, maybe the committee makes up for the fact that it underseeded us by pairing us with someone who was overseeded in the super-regional. Then at least it is acknowledgement that despite the underseeding, in terms of practical aspects, we would play one of the easier teams in the super regional. But no, Mississippi state is also underseeded, and is probably better than the 6th seed it got. By RPI, they are #4, for example, as they are by Massey rating. So, the committee did no favors to Stanford (or Mississippi State either) by pairing two teams that were under-rated.
So maybe the committee makes up for the fact that it gave us a tough super-regional opponent both by underseeding us and underseeding our opponents. Surely they will make up for it by giving us a clear path to the super-regional by pairing us with easier regional opponents. But nope, the committee screwed us, again, by giving us a particularly difficult regional.
This was brutal.
BC
(05-28-2019, 09:00 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: Seven SEC team in the seeded sixteen.
Their combined conference record against those 16 teams:
4-7.
Three Pac 12 teams in the seeded sixteen.
Their record against those teams:
8-5.
(05-28-2019, 09:00 AM)Hulk01 Wrote: Seven SEC team in the seeded sixteen.
Their combined conference record against those 16 teams:
4-7.
Three Pac 12 teams in the seeded sixteen.
Their record against those teams:
8-5.
(05-28-2019, 06:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The geography consideration almost makes the entire OOC season pointless and makes a mockery of the regular season. Why bother playing tough teams like Texas and CSF if beating them 5/7 games and winning both series get you an 11 seed after finishing #2 in a Top 3 conference?
(05-28-2019, 06:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The geography consideration almost makes the entire OOC season pointless and makes a mockery of the regular season. Why bother playing tough teams like Texas and CSF if beating them 5/7 games and winning both series get you an 11 seed after finishing #2 in a Top 3 conference?
(05-28-2019, 05:33 PM)d4cohn Wrote: I definitely understand your point, but what about geography, which I also refer to. From my perspective, you can consider it from all of the "metric breaks" lining up against us as you said, or perhaps, the simpler explanation: Fresno State, Sac State and UCSB are all very close to PA, and the teams that can bus to Stanford all happen to be particularly strong, perhaps even more so than usual.
Quote:However, teams may be moved outside their regions, if necessary, to balance the bracket numerically, or if the proximity to an opponent outside the region would be comparable and a better competitive matchup would occur.
(05-28-2019, 05:33 PM)d4cohn Wrote: I definitely understand your point, but what about geography, which I also refer to. From my perspective, you can consider it from all of the "metric breaks" lining up against us as you said, or perhaps, the simpler explanation: Fresno State, Sac State and UCSB are all very close to PA, and the teams that can bus to Stanford all happen to be particularly strong, perhaps even more so than usual.
Quote:However, teams may be moved outside their regions, if necessary, to balance the bracket numerically, or if the proximity to an opponent outside the region would be comparable and a better competitive matchup would occur.
(05-28-2019, 02:32 PM)Canalejas Wrote: Regions sorted by average Massey Rating
(05-28-2019, 02:32 PM)Canalejas Wrote: Regions sorted by average Massey Rating
Quote:No. 4 Stanford welcomes UC Santa Barbara, Fresno State and Sacramento State to Sunken Diamond for an NCAA Regional, beginning Friday at 1 p.m.
It is the third straight season Stanford has played host to a regional and the 18th time in program history. The Cardinal (41-11, 22-7-0 Pac-12) opens the regional when it takes on Sacramento State in the opening matchup at 1 p.m. on Friday, followed by a duel between UC Santa Barbara and Fresno State at 7 p.m.
The double-elimination format continues through Saturday and Sunday with Monday's game only to be played if necessary. Stanford Regional central, which includes all game times, broadcast information and team information, can be found at GoStanford.com.
Quote:No. 4 Stanford welcomes UC Santa Barbara, Fresno State and Sacramento State to Sunken Diamond for an NCAA Regional, beginning Friday at 1 p.m.
It is the third straight season Stanford has played host to a regional and the 18th time in program history. The Cardinal (41-11, 22-7-0 Pac-12) opens the regional when it takes on Sacramento State in the opening matchup at 1 p.m. on Friday, followed by a duel between UC Santa Barbara and Fresno State at 7 p.m.
The double-elimination format continues through Saturday and Sunday with Monday's game only to be played if necessary. Stanford Regional central, which includes all game times, broadcast information and team information, can be found at GoStanford.com.
Quote:Catcher Maverick Handley was named Pac-12 Co-Defensive Player of the Year and eight other Cardinal earned places on the Pac-12 All-Conference teams, as announced Wednesday.
Handley, a native of Lakewood, Colorado, shares Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year honors with Oregon State's Adley Rutschman, and was also a member of the All-Conference team. Handley (bioengineering) leads the Pac-12 in pickoffs (7), yielding just three passed balls on the season while throwing out 10-of-26 stolen base attempts against him – Stanford has also allowed a league-low 17 sacrifice bunts this season. Since his freshman season in 2017, the Cardinal is 97-23-0 (.808) when Handley starts behind home plate.
Quote:First baseman Andrew Daschbach, pitcher Jack Little, the versatile Will Matthiessen, who has served as the designated hitter in all 52 games while making 14 appearances on the mound, and Brandon Wulff joined Handley on the All-Conference team.
Duke Kinamon, Kyle Stowers and Tim Tawa were named All-Pac-12 honorable mention while Daschbach, Handley and Stowers were named to the All-Defensive team. Nick Bellafronto and Kinamon were named All-Defense honorable mentions.
Quote:Catcher Maverick Handley was named Pac-12 Co-Defensive Player of the Year and eight other Cardinal earned places on the Pac-12 All-Conference teams, as announced Wednesday.
Handley, a native of Lakewood, Colorado, shares Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year honors with Oregon State's Adley Rutschman, and was also a member of the All-Conference team. Handley (bioengineering) leads the Pac-12 in pickoffs (7), yielding just three passed balls on the season while throwing out 10-of-26 stolen base attempts against him – Stanford has also allowed a league-low 17 sacrifice bunts this season. Since his freshman season in 2017, the Cardinal is 97-23-0 (.808) when Handley starts behind home plate.
Quote:First baseman Andrew Daschbach, pitcher Jack Little, the versatile Will Matthiessen, who has served as the designated hitter in all 52 games while making 14 appearances on the mound, and Brandon Wulff joined Handley on the All-Conference team.
Duke Kinamon, Kyle Stowers and Tim Tawa were named All-Pac-12 honorable mention while Daschbach, Handley and Stowers were named to the All-Defensive team. Nick Bellafronto and Kinamon were named All-Defense honorable mentions.