02-06-2020, 08:16 PM
To Florida st 78 to 65
(02-07-2020, 11:28 AM)Viking_Guy Wrote: The takeaway for me is that there are VERY few leagues with any quality depth, other than the Pac12 and on a lower level the B1G. Big XII? Baylor, and then a long drop off to Texas. SEC? South Carolina, then Mississippi State and TAMU, but then a stretch to Kentucky and Arkansas.I think the Pac 12 is going to have several teams in the NCAAs that go a lot further than their seeds predict. We are all going to give each other enough losses to prevent the 1st and 2nd seeds from being packed with Pac 12 teams, but that is probably where 4 (or maybe 5 or 6) of our teams belong relative the the rest of the country. Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona State, Arizona--whew.
Right now, the NCAA women's RPI, as flawed as it is, has a top ten consisting of
1 team each from the SEC, Big Ten, WCC, MWC (and boy, has Missouri State gamed the RPI well), ACC, Big 12, and AAC
And three from the Pac-12.
Big Ten has #11 in Iowa before Oregon State as #12.
Yep, WBB has a very definite West Coast tilt right now.
VG
(02-07-2020, 11:28 AM)Viking_Guy Wrote: The takeaway for me is that there are VERY few leagues with any quality depth, other than the Pac12 and on a lower level the B1G. Big XII? Baylor, and then a long drop off to Texas. SEC? South Carolina, then Mississippi State and TAMU, but then a stretch to Kentucky and Arkansas.I think the Pac 12 is going to have several teams in the NCAAs that go a lot further than their seeds predict. We are all going to give each other enough losses to prevent the 1st and 2nd seeds from being packed with Pac 12 teams, but that is probably where 4 (or maybe 5 or 6) of our teams belong relative the the rest of the country. Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona State, Arizona--whew.
Right now, the NCAA women's RPI, as flawed as it is, has a top ten consisting of
1 team each from the SEC, Big Ten, WCC, MWC (and boy, has Missouri State gamed the RPI well), ACC, Big 12, and AAC
And three from the Pac-12.
Big Ten has #11 in Iowa before Oregon State as #12.
Yep, WBB has a very definite West Coast tilt right now.
VG
(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)teejers1 Wrote:Yes, they are excellent. Not in the Pac 12 but equal to our top echelon. Their straight-up RPI right now is 5, which puts them higher than Louisville, Baylor, or UConn.(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Gonzaga is still good, right?
I certainly thought so when we played them, and I maintain they will be a tough out for anyone.
(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)teejers1 Wrote:Yes, they are excellent. Not in the Pac 12 but equal to our top echelon. Their straight-up RPI right now is 5, which puts them higher than Louisville, Baylor, or UConn.(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Gonzaga is still good, right?
I certainly thought so when we played them, and I maintain they will be a tough out for anyone.
(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Where the Pac12 will get hosed is the selection committee putting all six teams into 3, or even 2, regionals.
I'd love for us to have the spotlight of bumping Geno's overrated TeamESPN to the sidelines this year, but if ASU or Zona can do it in the 2nd round, so much the better.
(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Where the Pac12 will get hosed is the selection committee putting all six teams into 3, or even 2, regionals.
I'd love for us to have the spotlight of bumping Geno's overrated TeamESPN to the sidelines this year, but if ASU or Zona can do it in the 2nd round, so much the better.
(02-07-2020, 04:45 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:Well, first things first. Let's start by beating UCLA tonight :)(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Where the Pac12 will get hosed is the selection committee putting all six teams into 3, or even 2, regionals.
I'd love for us to have the spotlight of bumping Geno's overrated TeamESPN to the sidelines this year, but if ASU or Zona can do it in the 2nd round, so much the better.
I dunno. I think this may be a "careful what you wish for" situation. Based on watching their game with the Ducks, I think UConn would beat us in postseason. In addition, while there have certainly been some cracks in the wall in the past couple of years, Geno's teams often get the job done in postseason even against teams that have beaten them during the season...
(02-07-2020, 04:45 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:Well, first things first. Let's start by beating UCLA tonight :)(02-07-2020, 01:30 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 01:20 PM)Jskass Wrote: Agree that our conference will get hosed because of the extra inevitable losses but looking at the top 6, it's easy to make a case that there are two #1 seeds (if we're healthy), two #2 seeds and two #3 seeds. However, we'll never get those but instead SHOCK the East Coast fans with some (un)expected victories come tournament time! Go Pac-12.
Where the Pac12 will get hosed is the selection committee putting all six teams into 3, or even 2, regionals.
I'd love for us to have the spotlight of bumping Geno's overrated TeamESPN to the sidelines this year, but if ASU or Zona can do it in the 2nd round, so much the better.
I dunno. I think this may be a "careful what you wish for" situation. Based on watching their game with the Ducks, I think UConn would beat us in postseason. In addition, while there have certainly been some cracks in the wall in the past couple of years, Geno's teams often get the job done in postseason even against teams that have beaten them during the season...
(02-08-2020, 05:03 PM)crackpot Wrote: Yesterday Zags were RPI #5.Ouch. And that hurts our RPI too.
Ouch.
(02-08-2020, 01:15 PM)Jskass Wrote: #2 or #3 in a bracket now. Pray this team gets ANGRY and takes it out on USC (who has some big bodies inside so our posts need to get serious).I do have to say, the entire season would be worth it to see Fran Belibi dunk on SC, maybe several times?
(02-08-2020, 05:03 PM)crackpot Wrote: Yesterday Zags were RPI #5.Ouch. And that hurts our RPI too.
Ouch.
(02-08-2020, 01:15 PM)Jskass Wrote: #2 or #3 in a bracket now. Pray this team gets ANGRY and takes it out on USC (who has some big bodies inside so our posts need to get serious).I do have to say, the entire season would be worth it to see Fran Belibi dunk on SC, maybe several times?
(02-09-2020, 02:02 PM)mbdude Wrote: Louisville loses again, to Syracuse 59 51This one is good for us, given that we beat Syracuse. Maybe we can start to crawl back up again. Lousiville was one notch above us on both polls, and we lost once and they lost twice.
(02-09-2020, 02:02 PM)mbdude Wrote: Louisville loses again, to Syracuse 59 51This one is good for us, given that we beat Syracuse. Maybe we can start to crawl back up again. Lousiville was one notch above us on both polls, and we lost once and they lost twice.