07-19-2020, 11:45 PM
Degrees for sale at USC
07-20-2020, 04:55 AM
(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
Audaces fortuna iuvat
07-20-2020, 06:05 AM
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
U$C is the school that many people in the Bay Area love to hate. I remember once I had a banker visit me who mentioned she had gone to U$C. I laughed and said. "Well, we won't hold that against you." She looked at me and said "You know, a lot of people around here feel that way."
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
U$C is the school that many people in the Bay Area love to hate. I remember once I had a banker visit me who mentioned she had gone to U$C. I laughed and said. "Well, we won't hold that against you." She looked at me and said "You know, a lot of people around here feel that way."
07-20-2020, 08:43 AM
Every school has its good and its bad. Even Stanford kids! Most athletes respect their opponents. Most fans do not.
07-20-2020, 09:45 AM
(07-20-2020, 08:43 AM)Phogge Wrote: Every school has its good and its bad. Even Stanford kids! Most athletes respect their opponents. Most fans do not.
To be clear, I fully respect and appreciate Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Washington and Washington State.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(07-20-2020, 08:43 AM)Phogge Wrote: Every school has its good and its bad. Even Stanford kids! Most athletes respect their opponents. Most fans do not.
To be clear, I fully respect and appreciate Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Washington and Washington State.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
07-20-2020, 09:59 AM
I respected Ron Drake, Tom House, Steve Sogge, The Spaceman and the other Trojans. I did not respect Rod Dedeaux.
Andy Messersmith went out of his way to congratulate me after a close game. Ditto some other Bears.
Some of the Stanford players, one in particular, were dicks. Third base coach Bill Althouse was a saint.
Anyway, LOL at your post.
Andy Messersmith went out of his way to congratulate me after a close game. Ditto some other Bears.
Some of the Stanford players, one in particular, were dicks. Third base coach Bill Althouse was a saint.
Anyway, LOL at your post.
I respected Ron Drake, Tom House, Steve Sogge, The Spaceman and the other Trojans. I did not respect Rod Dedeaux.
Andy Messersmith went out of his way to congratulate me after a close game. Ditto some other Bears.
Some of the Stanford players, one in particular, were dicks. Third base coach Bill Althouse was a saint.
Anyway, LOL at your post.
Andy Messersmith went out of his way to congratulate me after a close game. Ditto some other Bears.
Some of the Stanford players, one in particular, were dicks. Third base coach Bill Althouse was a saint.
Anyway, LOL at your post.
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his brobdingnagian entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his brobdingnagian entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
In other news "I'm shocked, shocked, that gambling is going on in here!"
BC
BC
07-20-2020, 11:26 AM
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
We, too, have always been much more negative on USC than Cal. When our kids were trying to decide where to apply for college several decades ago, we told them we'd support their efforts wherever they wanted to go, with one exception. If they decided on USC, they'd have to pay for it themselves.
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
We, too, have always been much more negative on USC than Cal. When our kids were trying to decide where to apply for college several decades ago, we told them we'd support their efforts wherever they wanted to go, with one exception. If they decided on USC, they'd have to pay for it themselves.
07-20-2020, 12:47 PM
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
07-20-2020, 10:02 PM
Yeah, but this is several orders of magnitude higher than "stinkin' rich" lol...what a story. Good on UCLA. U$C...oof lol.
LA Times usually lets me read 3 articles a month. Maybe because I enter through Google News.
This is the worst college corruption I have ever seen. If this article is accurate, this kid never went to class. Partied and drove around in $750,000 cars his entire time in LA. And a grad student at USC either wrote all of his papers or helped the prince's friend from Qatar do it. That grad student is now a university professor at Occidental. People were bribed with Rolexes and who knows what else to pave the way for his activities and non-attendance.
What stood out was that UCLA wouldn't have anything to do with these people.
This is worse than the SEC and their football players.
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
This is the worst college corruption I have ever seen. If this article is accurate, this kid never went to class. Partied and drove around in $750,000 cars his entire time in LA. And a grad student at USC either wrote all of his papers or helped the prince's friend from Qatar do it. That grad student is now a university professor at Occidental. People were bribed with Rolexes and who knows what else to pave the way for his activities and non-attendance.
What stood out was that UCLA wouldn't have anything to do with these people.
This is worse than the SEC and their football players.
(07-20-2020, 12:47 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
LA Times usually lets me read 3 articles a month. Maybe because I enter through Google News.
This is the worst college corruption I have ever seen. If this article is accurate, this kid never went to class. Partied and drove around in $750,000 cars his entire time in LA. And a grad student at USC either wrote all of his papers or helped the prince's friend from Qatar do it. That grad student is now a university professor at Occidental. People were bribed with Rolexes and who knows what else to pave the way for his activities and non-attendance.
What stood out was that UCLA wouldn't have anything to do with these people.
This is worse than the SEC and their football players.
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
This is the worst college corruption I have ever seen. If this article is accurate, this kid never went to class. Partied and drove around in $750,000 cars his entire time in LA. And a grad student at USC either wrote all of his papers or helped the prince's friend from Qatar do it. That grad student is now a university professor at Occidental. People were bribed with Rolexes and who knows what else to pave the way for his activities and non-attendance.
What stood out was that UCLA wouldn't have anything to do with these people.
This is worse than the SEC and their football players.
(07-20-2020, 12:47 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
akiddoc Wrote:(07-20-2020, 12:47 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
Liberal arts colleges and random assorted state schools pretty much rounded out the other 10%. I remember there would only be a few every year going to Williams/Amherst/Swarthmore/Pomona/Reed, and maybe a couple girls would go to the well-known women's colleges like Sarah Lawrence or Wellesley, but a very popular choice for those who wanted the small liberal arts college vibe was Kenyon. (We had a couple extremely well-liked teachers in the English and drama departments who attended Kenyon.)
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2020, 02:37 PM by CompSci87.)
akiddoc Wrote:(07-20-2020, 12:47 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
My HS (if I said "exclusive, filthy rich LA private school" you can probably guess which one) fed ~90% of every graduating class into 3 "buckets" of schools:
- Stanford/Ivies/MIT/CalTech
- Northwestern/Duke/UChicago/WashU St. Louis
- USC/NYU/Michigan
Can confirm the third bucket fit the bill of "parents were stinkin' rich" for almost every kid, the general exception being engineering-focused kids who did well in STEM classes but didn't do much extracurricular-wise beyond maybe playing a sport or an instrument (thus competing for limited School of Engineering spots with thousands of other just-as-qualified kids who did exactly the same thing or more).
No one went to liberal arts colleges???
Liberal arts colleges and random assorted state schools pretty much rounded out the other 10%. I remember there would only be a few every year going to Williams/Amherst/Swarthmore/Pomona/Reed, and maybe a couple girls would go to the well-known women's colleges like Sarah Lawrence or Wellesley, but a very popular choice for those who wanted the small liberal arts college vibe was Kenyon. (We had a couple extremely well-liked teachers in the English and drama departments who attended Kenyon.)
07-21-2020, 11:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2020, 11:29 AM by OutsiderFan.)
Just another sordid tale in the long and infamous history of the University of Scandal & Corruption.
The most shocking thing in the LAT story for me: "A doctoral degree was going for $25,000."
Who in the hell getting a Ph.D is going to be looking for a phony degree? I thought the whole reason for pursuing one is to gain the knowledge from doing research? And who wants to be a terribly paid university Prof and pay an extra $25k for the privilege. Really makes no sense.
Spoiled undergrads have always been the ones buying phony degrees, because so many them cheated in high school also.
USC should lose its accreditation. Too many scandals and who knows what other shady behavior, to be taken seriously as an institution of higher learning.
The most shocking thing in the LAT story for me: "A doctoral degree was going for $25,000."
Who in the hell getting a Ph.D is going to be looking for a phony degree? I thought the whole reason for pursuing one is to gain the knowledge from doing research? And who wants to be a terribly paid university Prof and pay an extra $25k for the privilege. Really makes no sense.
Spoiled undergrads have always been the ones buying phony degrees, because so many them cheated in high school also.
USC should lose its accreditation. Too many scandals and who knows what other shady behavior, to be taken seriously as an institution of higher learning.
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2020, 11:29 AM by OutsiderFan.)
Just another sordid tale in the long and infamous history of the University of Scandal & Corruption.
The most shocking thing in the LAT story for me: "A doctoral degree was going for $25,000."
Who in the hell getting a Ph.D is going to be looking for a phony degree? I thought the whole reason for pursuing one is to gain the knowledge from doing research? And who wants to be a terribly paid university Prof and pay an extra $25k for the privilege. Really makes no sense.
Spoiled undergrads have always been the ones buying phony degrees, because so many them cheated in high school also.
USC should lose its accreditation. Too many scandals and who knows what other shady behavior, to be taken seriously as an institution of higher learning.
The most shocking thing in the LAT story for me: "A doctoral degree was going for $25,000."
Who in the hell getting a Ph.D is going to be looking for a phony degree? I thought the whole reason for pursuing one is to gain the knowledge from doing research? And who wants to be a terribly paid university Prof and pay an extra $25k for the privilege. Really makes no sense.
Spoiled undergrads have always been the ones buying phony degrees, because so many them cheated in high school also.
USC should lose its accreditation. Too many scandals and who knows what other shady behavior, to be taken seriously as an institution of higher learning.
07-21-2020, 03:16 PM
(07-20-2020, 10:23 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his of immense proportions entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
I am really, really surprised SC was stupid enough to not have the cashier's check in one hand when they said yes.
(07-20-2020, 10:23 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his of immense proportions entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
I am really, really surprised SC was stupid enough to not have the cashier's check in one hand when they said yes.
07-22-2020, 06:28 AM
(07-21-2020, 03:16 PM)GK3 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 10:23 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his of immense proportions entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
I am really, really surprised SC was stupid enough to not have the cashier's check in one hand when they said yes.
A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(07-21-2020, 03:16 PM)GK3 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 10:23 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:(07-20-2020, 04:55 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-19-2020, 11:45 PM)akiddoc Wrote: https://www.latimes.com/california/story...sc-ucla-la
Behind a firewall. Not that I don't love the L.A. Times, but I already pay for enough media. I assume the story has something to do with someone undeserving receiving a USC degree, maybe similar to the Wal-Mart heir.
Wouldn't surprise me much. I don't know that many people who attended USC, at least not really well. I know one person who started a dental tools company at the age of 19 and did very well, USC grad. All three of my stepsister's children attended USC. I know their mother had debilitating dyscalculia (all the women on that side of the family do), presumably her kids didn't inherit it. And one of the kids on my son's volleyball team went to USC. The only thing the parents had in common was that they were stinkin' rich.
In my family, USC was thought of in much worse terms than Cal, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that for decades USC owned Stanford in football. I have a very accomplished cousin who attended USC for a year, then transferred to Reed. He recently graduated from the Yale School of Management.
I know USC has solid academics and I encouraged both of my sons to consider it. My older son said he'd rather go to a junior college. I convinced my younger son to visit the campus and he turned around after 11 minutes and said "I'm not going here."
I got to it via Google News. IIRC a young prince from Qatar came to L.A., stayed with his of immense proportions entourage at the Beverly Wilshire for several years (even his butlers stayed in $600 rooms). Prince enrolls in an obscure community college, never really goes to class, then gets into U$C as a transfer student, apparently only went to one class there, got a BA and MA, they held a special graduation ceremony for him and he didn't show up for that either. Apparently he spent most of his time in the H'wood club scene (one of his buddies was a Kardashian boyfriend) and gambling in Vegas.
Meanwhile his mommy visited with the then-U$C President (Nikias) and there was an implied deal that Qatar would be a significant donor to several big U$C infrastructure projects if the prince got in. Never happened, the Qataris welshed on the deal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer school, LMAO. They actually tried UCLA first but UCLA said no dice. So they turned to U$C.
I am really, really surprised SC was stupid enough to not have the cashier's check in one hand when they said yes.
A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Audaces fortuna iuvat
07-22-2020, 08:00 AM
(07-22-2020, 06:28 AM)Mick Wrote: A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Typical Trojan.
BC
(07-22-2020, 06:28 AM)Mick Wrote: A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Typical Trojan.
BC
07-22-2020, 08:22 AM
(07-20-2020, 06:05 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: U$C is the school that many people in the Bay Area love to hate. I remember once I had a banker visit me who mentioned she had gone to U$C. I laughed and said. "Well, we won't hold that against you." She looked at me and said "You know, a lot of people around here feel that way."
When I was at Santa Clara, they were known as the University of Santa Clara, and all the gear said USC. They made the change to "Santa Clara University" in 1985, in part to differentiate themselves from that formerly Methodist school down south.
The press release was a classic: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/10/05/...497332800/
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(07-20-2020, 06:05 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: U$C is the school that many people in the Bay Area love to hate. I remember once I had a banker visit me who mentioned she had gone to U$C. I laughed and said. "Well, we won't hold that against you." She looked at me and said "You know, a lot of people around here feel that way."
When I was at Santa Clara, they were known as the University of Santa Clara, and all the gear said USC. They made the change to "Santa Clara University" in 1985, in part to differentiate themselves from that formerly Methodist school down south.
The press release was a classic: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/10/05/...497332800/
Audaces fortuna iuvat
07-22-2020, 10:48 AM
(07-22-2020, 06:28 AM)Mick Wrote: A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Whaaaaaaat. That's straight out of the depraved oil sheikh stereotypes...which, I suppose, didn't appear out of thin air. *And* his family stiffed U$C on those philanthropic donations. His mother's philanthropic reputation must have taken a hit after that.
(07-22-2020, 06:28 AM)Mick Wrote: A few other links. The Qatari prince is a genuinely bad guy, if allegations are true...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202007...g-classes/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/feature...-US-Report
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gu...US-lawsuit
Whaaaaaaat. That's straight out of the depraved oil sheikh stereotypes...which, I suppose, didn't appear out of thin air. *And* his family stiffed U$C on those philanthropic donations. His mother's philanthropic reputation must have taken a hit after that.
07-22-2020, 10:04 PM
Where else but USC could this occur? First of all, let me post their response to yet another scandal, in 2019. It had to do with USC hiring away a world famous Alzheimers disease researcher from UCSD, while trying to take federal funding, research data, and UCSD employees as well. USC paid a $50 million settlement to UCSD. Here's the official USC statement, included in the linked article:
"USC is committed to, and wants to be known for, ethics, integrity and the pursuit of academic excellence".
"These standards will apply to all aspects of university operations".
USC settles with UCSD for $50 million
With that in mind - remember Devin Sloane? He was one of the more infamous clients of Rick Singer. He bought water polo headgear on Amazon and took a photo of his son, Matteo. He then photoshopped his son in a pool, submitted the photo to Singer, who noted that the son's torso was above the water line and said, "No one gets that high", so it had to be resubmitted. His son's HS counselor, who noted that his HS did not have a water polo team, raised questions with the admissions office at USC. Devin Sloane did plead guilty and was sentenced to 4 months in prison.
There's a new book about the admissions scandal.
Devin Sloane's son speaks out
In it, Matteo was interviewed, and here's what jumped out to me (italics mine):
Despite his father's arrest, guilty plea, and ultimate sentencing, Matteo Sloane, now 20, is still attending USC.
(So much for ethics and integrity in all aspects of university operations.)
"USC is committed to, and wants to be known for, ethics, integrity and the pursuit of academic excellence".
"These standards will apply to all aspects of university operations".
USC settles with UCSD for $50 million
With that in mind - remember Devin Sloane? He was one of the more infamous clients of Rick Singer. He bought water polo headgear on Amazon and took a photo of his son, Matteo. He then photoshopped his son in a pool, submitted the photo to Singer, who noted that the son's torso was above the water line and said, "No one gets that high", so it had to be resubmitted. His son's HS counselor, who noted that his HS did not have a water polo team, raised questions with the admissions office at USC. Devin Sloane did plead guilty and was sentenced to 4 months in prison.
There's a new book about the admissions scandal.
Devin Sloane's son speaks out
In it, Matteo was interviewed, and here's what jumped out to me (italics mine):
Despite his father's arrest, guilty plea, and ultimate sentencing, Matteo Sloane, now 20, is still attending USC.
(So much for ethics and integrity in all aspects of university operations.)
Where else but USC could this occur? First of all, let me post their response to yet another scandal, in 2019. It had to do with USC hiring away a world famous Alzheimers disease researcher from UCSD, while trying to take federal funding, research data, and UCSD employees as well. USC paid a $50 million settlement to UCSD. Here's the official USC statement, included in the linked article:
"USC is committed to, and wants to be known for, ethics, integrity and the pursuit of academic excellence".
"These standards will apply to all aspects of university operations".
USC settles with UCSD for $50 million
With that in mind - remember Devin Sloane? He was one of the more infamous clients of Rick Singer. He bought water polo headgear on Amazon and took a photo of his son, Matteo. He then photoshopped his son in a pool, submitted the photo to Singer, who noted that the son's torso was above the water line and said, "No one gets that high", so it had to be resubmitted. His son's HS counselor, who noted that his HS did not have a water polo team, raised questions with the admissions office at USC. Devin Sloane did plead guilty and was sentenced to 4 months in prison.
There's a new book about the admissions scandal.
Devin Sloane's son speaks out
In it, Matteo was interviewed, and here's what jumped out to me (italics mine):
Despite his father's arrest, guilty plea, and ultimate sentencing, Matteo Sloane, now 20, is still attending USC.
(So much for ethics and integrity in all aspects of university operations.)
"USC is committed to, and wants to be known for, ethics, integrity and the pursuit of academic excellence".
"These standards will apply to all aspects of university operations".
USC settles with UCSD for $50 million
With that in mind - remember Devin Sloane? He was one of the more infamous clients of Rick Singer. He bought water polo headgear on Amazon and took a photo of his son, Matteo. He then photoshopped his son in a pool, submitted the photo to Singer, who noted that the son's torso was above the water line and said, "No one gets that high", so it had to be resubmitted. His son's HS counselor, who noted that his HS did not have a water polo team, raised questions with the admissions office at USC. Devin Sloane did plead guilty and was sentenced to 4 months in prison.
There's a new book about the admissions scandal.
Devin Sloane's son speaks out
In it, Matteo was interviewed, and here's what jumped out to me (italics mine):
Despite his father's arrest, guilty plea, and ultimate sentencing, Matteo Sloane, now 20, is still attending USC.
(So much for ethics and integrity in all aspects of university operations.)
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