10-30-2022, 07:42 PM
Stanford tree suspended
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10-30-2022, 08:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2022, 08:43 PM by BostonCard.)
My “Stanford hates fun” sign has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my sign.
Did I get the meme right?
BC
Did I get the meme right?
BC
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2022, 08:43 PM by BostonCard.)
My “Stanford hates fun” sign has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my sign.
Did I get the meme right?
BC
Did I get the meme right?
BC
10-30-2022, 09:24 PM
At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
10-30-2022, 09:44 PM
(10-30-2022, 09:24 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Also appears that, per Twitter, the decision to suspend the current Tree (and replace with last year’s Tree) was a decision made by the LSJUMB. Not the first time the Band has done something along these lines.
(10-30-2022, 09:24 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Also appears that, per Twitter, the decision to suspend the current Tree (and replace with last year’s Tree) was a decision made by the LSJUMB. Not the first time the Band has done something along these lines.
10-30-2022, 10:06 PM
(10-30-2022, 09:44 PM)MVCard Wrote:(10-30-2022, 09:24 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Also appears that, per Twitter, the decision to suspend the current Tree (and replace with last year’s Tree) was a decision made by the LSJUMB. Not the first time the Band has done something along these lines.
The Band used to be fun.
(10-30-2022, 09:44 PM)MVCard Wrote:(10-30-2022, 09:24 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: At the game, my group was puzzled by the collaboration between the Tree and Sparky in carrying the "Stanford Hates Fun" banner together. Given the message, we surmised that the Tree needed a non-Stanford collaborator, and Sparky was easily convinced to participate in the stunt.
Sorry to hear that Tree #44 has been put on ice, but it appears (per Twitter) that Tree #43 will be coming out of retirement to fill the void.
Also appears that, per Twitter, the decision to suspend the current Tree (and replace with last year’s Tree) was a decision made by the LSJUMB. Not the first time the Band has done something along these lines.
The Band used to be fun.
10-31-2022, 11:32 AM
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10-31-2022, 11:38 AM
ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
10-31-2022, 11:47 AM
(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
this from the Daily after the ASU game
https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/24/ins...cial-life/
Quote:On the first Friday of the academic year, a group of students wandered aimlessly through campus, cutting the silence with music played from a portable speaker.
They took turns climbing lamp posts and pushed shopping carts filled with beer through Main Quad. One wore a shirt emblazoned with “Stanford Hates Fun” written in red marker. This was, perhaps, what passed for fun after unclear instructions from University administrators forced the Kappa Sigma fraternity to postpone its annual Eurotrash event, typically the first all-campus party of the year.
In a normal year, the postponement of a single party would not be cause for alarm. But to some frustrated students, the delay was yet another example of University pressure to restrict student social life. Across more than a dozen interviews with The Daily, students alleged that Stanford has exerted pressure through its policies, lack of communication and adversarial approach to party registration and funding.
The University, on the other hand, has maintained that it has worked to provide social opportunities for students during this academic year, the first in two years free of widespread pandemic restrictions.
But a University spokesperson broadly declined to comment on specific allegations raised by students for this article, and numbers provided by the spokesperson indicate that the number of social events on campus has fallen sharply.
and from earlier this year
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
Quote:Stanford’s new social order offers a peek into the bureaucrat’s vision for America. It is a world without risk, genuine difference, or the kind of group connection that makes teenage boys want to rent bulldozers and build islands. It is a world largely without unencumbered joy; without the kind of cultural specificity that makes college, or the rest of life, particularly interesting.
Since 2013, Stanford’s administration has executed a top-to-bottom destruction of student social life. Driven by a fear of uncontrollable student spontaneity and a desire to enforce equity on campus, a growing administrative bureaucracy has destroyed almost all of Stanford’s distinctive student culture.
What happened at Stanford is a cultural revolution on the scale of a two-mile college campus. In less than a decade, Stanford’s administration eviscerated a hundred years of undergraduate culture and social groups. They ended decades-old traditions. They drove student groups out of their houses. They scraped names off buildings. They went after long-established hubs of student life, like fraternities and cultural theme houses. In place of it all, Stanford erected a homogenous housing system that sorts new students into perfectly equitable groups named with letters and numbers. All social distinction is gone.
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
this from the Daily after the ASU game
https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/24/ins...cial-life/
Quote:On the first Friday of the academic year, a group of students wandered aimlessly through campus, cutting the silence with music played from a portable speaker.
They took turns climbing lamp posts and pushed shopping carts filled with beer through Main Quad. One wore a shirt emblazoned with “Stanford Hates Fun” written in red marker. This was, perhaps, what passed for fun after unclear instructions from University administrators forced the Kappa Sigma fraternity to postpone its annual Eurotrash event, typically the first all-campus party of the year.
In a normal year, the postponement of a single party would not be cause for alarm. But to some frustrated students, the delay was yet another example of University pressure to restrict student social life. Across more than a dozen interviews with The Daily, students alleged that Stanford has exerted pressure through its policies, lack of communication and adversarial approach to party registration and funding.
The University, on the other hand, has maintained that it has worked to provide social opportunities for students during this academic year, the first in two years free of widespread pandemic restrictions.
But a University spokesperson broadly declined to comment on specific allegations raised by students for this article, and numbers provided by the spokesperson indicate that the number of social events on campus has fallen sharply.
and from earlier this year
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
Quote:Stanford’s new social order offers a peek into the bureaucrat’s vision for America. It is a world without risk, genuine difference, or the kind of group connection that makes teenage boys want to rent bulldozers and build islands. It is a world largely without unencumbered joy; without the kind of cultural specificity that makes college, or the rest of life, particularly interesting.
Since 2013, Stanford’s administration has executed a top-to-bottom destruction of student social life. Driven by a fear of uncontrollable student spontaneity and a desire to enforce equity on campus, a growing administrative bureaucracy has destroyed almost all of Stanford’s distinctive student culture.
What happened at Stanford is a cultural revolution on the scale of a two-mile college campus. In less than a decade, Stanford’s administration eviscerated a hundred years of undergraduate culture and social groups. They ended decades-old traditions. They drove student groups out of their houses. They scraped names off buildings. They went after long-established hubs of student life, like fraternities and cultural theme houses. In place of it all, Stanford erected a homogenous housing system that sorts new students into perfectly equitable groups named with letters and numbers. All social distinction is gone.
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
10-31-2022, 11:49 AM
(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
University has made it a lot harder to hold social events, from creating a strict registration process for parties, a change in alcohol policy which now forces students (especially freshmen) to drink behind closed doors, to cracking down on greek life and regular row houses. COVID definitely played a large role in it, but the university had been looking to do this and covid was its excuse to.
(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
University has made it a lot harder to hold social events, from creating a strict registration process for parties, a change in alcohol policy which now forces students (especially freshmen) to drink behind closed doors, to cracking down on greek life and regular row houses. COVID definitely played a large role in it, but the university had been looking to do this and covid was its excuse to.
10-31-2022, 11:51 AM
Burger - couple of background articles written by students about social life on campus.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
https://stanfordreview.org/take-stanford...alize-fun/
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
https://stanfordreview.org/take-stanford...alize-fun/
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Burger - couple of background articles written by students about social life on campus.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
https://stanfordreview.org/take-stanford...alize-fun/
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/06/13/...cial-life/
https://stanfordreview.org/take-stanford...alize-fun/
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
10-31-2022, 12:39 PM
I'm somewhat confused because the tweets are not very clear, but my interpretation is that the LSJUMB student leadership suspended the current tree from being the tree for the present quarter? I don't think the student is academically suspended because how would LSJUMB students have that authority.
I'm surprised there is not more tree solidarity. If this was a true injustice I would think the old tree would not cross the "thicket line" (sorry).
I'm surprised there is not more tree solidarity. If this was a true injustice I would think the old tree would not cross the "thicket line" (sorry).
I'm somewhat confused because the tweets are not very clear, but my interpretation is that the LSJUMB student leadership suspended the current tree from being the tree for the present quarter? I don't think the student is academically suspended because how would LSJUMB students have that authority.
I'm surprised there is not more tree solidarity. If this was a true injustice I would think the old tree would not cross the "thicket line" (sorry).
I'm surprised there is not more tree solidarity. If this was a true injustice I would think the old tree would not cross the "thicket line" (sorry).
(10-30-2022, 11:16 PM)Phogge Wrote: Can the band please suspend the head coach and the offensive line.
Don't forget Bernie. #MuirAndShawMustGo
"I'm shocked, shocked that people might be enjoying themselves!"
Should do great things for recruiting. What a bunch of k tsk-tsking, tight-assed, self-important edu-crat prunes! Thing is, given the way the Academy in general (especially the Ivies) want to regiment all things, this is not surprising.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(10-30-2022, 11:16 PM)Phogge Wrote: Can the band please suspend the head coach and the offensive line.
Don't forget Bernie. #MuirAndShawMustGo
"I'm shocked, shocked that people might be enjoying themselves!"
Should do great things for recruiting. What a bunch of k tsk-tsking, tight-assed, self-important edu-crat prunes! Thing is, given the way the Academy in general (especially the Ivies) want to regiment all things, this is not surprising.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
10-31-2022, 03:31 PM
Hah! You guys don't realize that Bernie was behind shutting down all those campus parties in order to bump up attendance at the Saturday night games. Nice try, Bernie!
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
Hah! You guys don't realize that Bernie was behind shutting down all those campus parties in order to bump up attendance at the Saturday night games. Nice try, Bernie!
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
10-31-2022, 03:59 PM
Explain it to me like I'm five. Holding up a sign "Stanford hates fun" is an offense worthy of suspension how? Unpopular, maybe. Frowned upon by the powers that be, perhaps. In the grand scheme of things what's the problem?
Explain it to me like I'm five. Holding up a sign "Stanford hates fun" is an offense worthy of suspension how? Unpopular, maybe. Frowned upon by the powers that be, perhaps. In the grand scheme of things what's the problem?
10-31-2022, 04:00 PM
(10-31-2022, 03:31 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Hah! You guys don't realize that Bernie was behind shutting down all those campus parties in order to bump up attendance at the Saturday night games. Nice try, Bernie!
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
My RA (Gavilan 76-77) used to make Friday afternoon alcohol runs for us. She even bought a pony keg for me once.
While I understand the liability here all these rules are ultimately counter productive. Fast forward 35-40 years and students now pregame in their rooms (with closed doors) with multiple vodka shots. Bring back 3.2 beer and make it available no questions asked. Social life will be better and the black out drunk problem will be minimized.
(10-31-2022, 03:31 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Hah! You guys don't realize that Bernie was behind shutting down all those campus parties in order to bump up attendance at the Saturday night games. Nice try, Bernie!
The Fun Police Bureaucracy sounds pretty Draconian. Open doors? Closed doors? Sounds like "one foot on the floor" from the old days. When I was an RA in the last all-male frosh dorm back in the Jurassic Age we only had two rules: "please don't ask us to buy beer for you," and "go find your own drug supplier and don't tell us about it."
I suppose some recent high-profile ODs and other incidents have a lot to do with it.
My RA (Gavilan 76-77) used to make Friday afternoon alcohol runs for us. She even bought a pony keg for me once.
While I understand the liability here all these rules are ultimately counter productive. Fast forward 35-40 years and students now pregame in their rooms (with closed doors) with multiple vodka shots. Bring back 3.2 beer and make it available no questions asked. Social life will be better and the black out drunk problem will be minimized.
10-31-2022, 04:40 PM
(10-31-2022, 11:49 AM)VB Card Wrote:(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
University has made it a lot harder to hold social events, from creating a strict registration process for parties, a change in alcohol policy which now forces students (especially freshmen) to drink behind closed doors, to cracking down on greek life and regular row houses. COVID definitely played a large role in it, but the university had been looking to do this and covid was its excuse to.
Shades of Jane Stanford!
(10-31-2022, 11:49 AM)VB Card Wrote:(10-31-2022, 11:38 AM)burger Wrote: ESPN article on the suspension: https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ree-mascot
What I want to know is, what's happening to create "the perception among students that the university is suppressing "social opportunities" on campus"? Is that a COVID-related thing? The latest crackdown on underage drinking (LOL--as if that would really make a difference)? Anyone know?
University has made it a lot harder to hold social events, from creating a strict registration process for parties, a change in alcohol policy which now forces students (especially freshmen) to drink behind closed doors, to cracking down on greek life and regular row houses. COVID definitely played a large role in it, but the university had been looking to do this and covid was its excuse to.
Shades of Jane Stanford!
10-31-2022, 04:43 PM
Thanks for the links, all. It sounds like the Tree has a point at least. I'll leave it to the ethicists to decide if during a football game is the best way to air these grievances...
(Also, I think I spent more time reading about this story than I have reading about Stanford football all season. Thanks for making football relevant for me again, Tree!)
(Also, I think I spent more time reading about this story than I have reading about Stanford football all season. Thanks for making football relevant for me again, Tree!)
Thanks for the links, all. It sounds like the Tree has a point at least. I'll leave it to the ethicists to decide if during a football game is the best way to air these grievances...
(Also, I think I spent more time reading about this story than I have reading about Stanford football all season. Thanks for making football relevant for me again, Tree!)
(Also, I think I spent more time reading about this story than I have reading about Stanford football all season. Thanks for making football relevant for me again, Tree!)
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