07-13-2012, 09:37 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...is-no-more
I was actually looking forward to it. Oh well.
I was actually looking forward to it. Oh well.
Pac-12/Big Ten Challenge called off
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...is-no-more
I was actually looking forward to it. Oh well.
I was actually looking forward to it. Oh well.
07-13-2012, 10:29 AM
Bummer. I was looking forward to the complete lack of variety in OOC road game destinations with local school + ND + B1G every year...
What was really the point of this agreement in the first place? Don't schools have the flexibility to schedule teams from a specific conference every year if they wish to (provided other teams want to play them)? Do any other conferences have these sorts of cross-conference ties?
EDIT: publius72 posted while I was typing my message (with a mid-posting break). Odd coincidence in how the two messages start :)
What was really the point of this agreement in the first place? Don't schools have the flexibility to schedule teams from a specific conference every year if they wish to (provided other teams want to play them)? Do any other conferences have these sorts of cross-conference ties?
EDIT: publius72 posted while I was typing my message (with a mid-posting break). Odd coincidence in how the two messages start :)
Bummer. I was looking forward to the complete lack of variety in OOC road game destinations with local school + ND + B1G every year...
What was really the point of this agreement in the first place? Don't schools have the flexibility to schedule teams from a specific conference every year if they wish to (provided other teams want to play them)? Do any other conferences have these sorts of cross-conference ties?
EDIT: publius72 posted while I was typing my message (with a mid-posting break). Odd coincidence in how the two messages start :)
What was really the point of this agreement in the first place? Don't schools have the flexibility to schedule teams from a specific conference every year if they wish to (provided other teams want to play them)? Do any other conferences have these sorts of cross-conference ties?
EDIT: publius72 posted while I was typing my message (with a mid-posting break). Odd coincidence in how the two messages start :)
07-13-2012, 10:57 AM
Objectively, it would have been solid. Subjectively, would rather be playing home and away in the South and Southwest.
07-13-2012, 11:29 AM
Bummer. I was looking forward to Publius and Somnambule being the same person.
Bummer. I was looking forward to Publius and Somnambule being the same person.
07-13-2012, 12:39 PM
(07-13-2012, 12:17 PM)publius72 link Wrote:Totally nerdy thing I did once with one of my drawmates who has a similar relationship to UCLA as I do with Ohio State: averaged the USNWR rankings of the Pac-10 as compared to the B1GTen. The B1GTen won by a handy margin. Basically we got dragged down by the Arizonas, the Oregons, and WSU. My guess is that the addition of Utah and Colorado would not help.
Doing a simple arithmetic mean doesn't really make sense in this case. The difference between a #1 and a #20 ranking means a lot more than the difference between #71 and #90, but an arithmetic mean treats them the same way. Using something like a geometric mean or harmonic mean would make a lot more sense. And I bet that would help the Pac-12 relative to the B1G: it would effectively put more weight on the top schools, where the Pac-12 does well (Stanford better than Northwestern, the other 3 California schools better than any of the public schools in the B1G, etc.).
(07-13-2012, 12:17 PM)publius72 link Wrote:Totally nerdy thing I did once with one of my drawmates who has a similar relationship to UCLA as I do with Ohio State: averaged the USNWR rankings of the Pac-10 as compared to the B1GTen. The B1GTen won by a handy margin. Basically we got dragged down by the Arizonas, the Oregons, and WSU. My guess is that the addition of Utah and Colorado would not help.
Doing a simple arithmetic mean doesn't really make sense in this case. The difference between a #1 and a #20 ranking means a lot more than the difference between #71 and #90, but an arithmetic mean treats them the same way. Using something like a geometric mean or harmonic mean would make a lot more sense. And I bet that would help the Pac-12 relative to the B1G: it would effectively put more weight on the top schools, where the Pac-12 does well (Stanford better than Northwestern, the other 3 California schools better than any of the public schools in the B1G, etc.).
07-13-2012, 03:26 PM
(07-13-2012, 12:39 PM)Roberton3 link Wrote:[quote author=publius72 link=topic=6091.msg44980#msg44980 date=1342207065]
Totally nerdy thing I did once with one of my drawmates who has a similar relationship to UCLA as I do with Ohio State: averaged the USNWR rankings of the Pac-10 as compared to the B1GTen. The B1GTen won by a handy margin. Basically we got dragged down by the Arizonas, the Oregons, and WSU. My guess is that the addition of Utah and Colorado would not help.
Doing a simple arithmetic mean doesn't really make sense in this case. The difference between a #1 and a #20 ranking means a lot more than the difference between #71 and #90, but an arithmetic mean treats them the same way. Using something like a geometric mean or harmonic mean would make a lot more sense. And I bet that would help the Pac-12 relative to the B1G: it would effectively put more weight on the top schools, where the Pac-12 does well (Stanford better than Northwestern, the other 3 California schools better than any of the public schools in the B1G, etc.).
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Somebody has been messing with my computer. I thought I was logging on to check out the latest sports news, but I clearly got rerouted to some blog from the American Society of Mathematicians.
By the way, as long as the topic involves things with which I, as a poli sci major, am not particularly familiar, I'm surprised no one has yet posted this:
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci...-sanctions
Just another school sacrificing academic integrity at the altar of big-time college sports, I guess...
(07-13-2012, 12:39 PM)Roberton3 link Wrote:[quote author=publius72 link=topic=6091.msg44980#msg44980 date=1342207065]
Totally nerdy thing I did once with one of my drawmates who has a similar relationship to UCLA as I do with Ohio State: averaged the USNWR rankings of the Pac-10 as compared to the B1GTen. The B1GTen won by a handy margin. Basically we got dragged down by the Arizonas, the Oregons, and WSU. My guess is that the addition of Utah and Colorado would not help.
Doing a simple arithmetic mean doesn't really make sense in this case. The difference between a #1 and a #20 ranking means a lot more than the difference between #71 and #90, but an arithmetic mean treats them the same way. Using something like a geometric mean or harmonic mean would make a lot more sense. And I bet that would help the Pac-12 relative to the B1G: it would effectively put more weight on the top schools, where the Pac-12 does well (Stanford better than Northwestern, the other 3 California schools better than any of the public schools in the B1G, etc.).
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Somebody has been messing with my computer. I thought I was logging on to check out the latest sports news, but I clearly got rerouted to some blog from the American Society of Mathematicians.
By the way, as long as the topic involves things with which I, as a poli sci major, am not particularly familiar, I'm surprised no one has yet posted this:
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci...-sanctions
Just another school sacrificing academic integrity at the altar of big-time college sports, I guess...
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