[OutsiderFan]

On another note, Terrence Stephens wasn't invited to the combine, and NFLN didn't list him as  prospect for Stanford's pro day.  That would be a bit surprising, considering he anchored the #1 regular season rush D in 2012.  Is he not pursuing a pro football career?

[OutsiderFan]

On another note, Terrence Stephens wasn't invited to the combine, and NFLN didn't list him as  prospect for Stanford's pro day.  That would be a bit surprising, considering he anchored the #1 regular season rush D in 2012.  Is he not pursuing a pro football career?

[stupac2]

On another note, Terrence Stephens wasn't invited to the combine, and NFLN didn't list him as  prospect for Stanford's pro day.  That would be a bit surprising, considering he anchored the #1 regular season rush D in 2012.  Is he not pursuing a pro football career?

Could be an extension of whatever issues kept him out of the PAC-12 CG and Rose Bowl. Did we ever learn what that was?

[stupac2]

On another note, Terrence Stephens wasn't invited to the combine, and NFLN didn't list him as  prospect for Stanford's pro day.  That would be a bit surprising, considering he anchored the #1 regular season rush D in 2012.  Is he not pursuing a pro football career?

Could be an extension of whatever issues kept him out of the PAC-12 CG and Rose Bowl. Did we ever learn what that was?

[FarmBoy]

I believe those had to do with inappropriate benefits relating to his off-campus housing. I don't see how that would be related.

[FarmBoy]

I believe those had to do with inappropriate benefits relating to his off-campus housing. I don't see how that would be related.

[StannyBoy]

i remember reading on one of the paid sites it had something to do with a booster, so I would assume his rent was discounted, or he was getting some extra benefits like free food or free utilities/cable tv, internet, etc.

[StannyBoy]

i remember reading on one of the paid sites it had something to do with a booster, so I would assume his rent was discounted, or he was getting some extra benefits like free food or free utilities/cable tv, internet, etc.

[Ratmandoo]

The NCAA should allow players to go back to school if they do badly at the combine as long as they haven't signed an agent or received any money.

The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

And for Toilolo leaving early, I don't think it's a matter of becoming a better player with another year in college but whether he can improve his draft stock in that year while risking injury before getting paid. If Toilolo looks that stiff at the combine now, I'm not sure how much that's going to improve in a year. He's going to get drafted....does going in the sixth round that much different than going in the third round (I honestly don't know the answer to that)? Staying another year wasn't going to get him in to the first round. I'm not sure staying another year would have gotten him into the third round.

[Ratmandoo]

The NCAA should allow players to go back to school if they do badly at the combine as long as they haven't signed an agent or received any money.

The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

And for Toilolo leaving early, I don't think it's a matter of becoming a better player with another year in college but whether he can improve his draft stock in that year while risking injury before getting paid. If Toilolo looks that stiff at the combine now, I'm not sure how much that's going to improve in a year. He's going to get drafted....does going in the sixth round that much different than going in the third round (I honestly don't know the answer to that)? Staying another year wasn't going to get him in to the first round. I'm not sure staying another year would have gotten him into the third round.

[OutsiderFan]

[quote author=Publius link=topic=7585.msg59324#msg59324 date=1361909757]
The NCAA should allow players to go back to school if they do badly at the combine as long as they haven't signed an agent or received any money.

The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

And for Toilolo leaving early, I don't think it's a matter of becoming a better player with another year in college but whether he can improve his draft stock in that year while risking injury before getting paid. If Toilolo looks that stiff at the combine now, I'm not sure how much that's going to improve in a year. He's going to get drafted....does going in the sixth round that much different than going in the third round (I honestly don't know the answer to that)? Staying another year wasn't going to get him in to the first round. I'm not sure staying another year would have gotten him into the third round.
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Thus my point about going to graduate school on Stanford's dime.  If you are so athletically challenged, it seems getting a free year of graduate school at Stanford is a smarter option.  The NFL will be there next year.  Free graduate school won't.

[OutsiderFan]

[quote author=Publius link=topic=7585.msg59324#msg59324 date=1361909757]
The NCAA should allow players to go back to school if they do badly at the combine as long as they haven't signed an agent or received any money.

The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

And for Toilolo leaving early, I don't think it's a matter of becoming a better player with another year in college but whether he can improve his draft stock in that year while risking injury before getting paid. If Toilolo looks that stiff at the combine now, I'm not sure how much that's going to improve in a year. He's going to get drafted....does going in the sixth round that much different than going in the third round (I honestly don't know the answer to that)? Staying another year wasn't going to get him in to the first round. I'm not sure staying another year would have gotten him into the third round.
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Thus my point about going to graduate school on Stanford's dime.  If you are so athletically challenged, it seems getting a free year of graduate school at Stanford is a smarter option.  The NFL will be there next year.  Free graduate school won't.

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The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

Absolutely. Allowing players to return now, six weeks after LOI day, would create chaos. And it would inevitably result in some of the new recruits getting screwed, turning down offers to accept one that's now rescinded because somebody elected to come back.

let them come back but not on scholarship?

[slide]

The NCAA won't ever allow this because the coaches don't want to deal with the headache of waiting to see how many scholarships they have available.

Absolutely. Allowing players to return now, six weeks after LOI day, would create chaos. And it would inevitably result in some of the new recruits getting screwed, turning down offers to accept one that's now rescinded because somebody elected to come back.

let them come back but not on scholarship?