[FarmBoy]

And when does the shin kicking commence? Better watch out, Travis.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...your-shins

[FarmBoy]

And when does the shin kicking commence? Better watch out, Travis.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/...your-shins

[fullmetal]

Don't count out Oregon.  Blink, and they're gone.

[fullmetal]

Don't count out Oregon.  Blink, and they're gone.

[StanFan88]

And when does the shin kicking commence?

Shin-kicking season officially runs from September 7, 2013 through January 6, 2014.  Specific times and locations may vary, but there will be 14 "events"

[StanFan88]

And when does the shin kicking commence?

Shin-kicking season officially runs from September 7, 2013 through January 6, 2014.  Specific times and locations may vary, but there will be 14 "events"

[fullmetal]

Yeah, but Trent Murphy will practice his shin-kicking as often as possible to prep for those 14 events :)

[fullmetal]

Yeah, but Trent Murphy will practice his shin-kicking as often as possible to prep for those 14 events :)

[Redrum]

It's just some guy's opinion.  Bulletin board material for the Ducks.  Losing Chip Kelly really was a hit to the program, but losing Harbaugh was seen at the time as equally damaging to ours.  David Shaw was a somewhat meh choice,  considered by many as a compromise, "homer" choice.  So how will Helfrich do in Eugene?  Too early to tell.

[Redrum]

It's just some guy's opinion.  Bulletin board material for the Ducks.  Losing Chip Kelly really was a hit to the program, but losing Harbaugh was seen at the time as equally damaging to ours.  David Shaw was a somewhat meh choice,  considered by many as a compromise, "homer" choice.  So how will Helfrich do in Eugene?  Too early to tell.

[washingtonismoney]

It's just some guy's opinion.  Bulletin board material for the Ducks.  Losing Chip Kelly really was a hit to the program, but losing Harbaugh was seen at the time as equally damaging to ours.  David Shaw was a somewhat meh choice,  considered by many as a compromise, "homer" choice.  So how will Helfrich do in Eugene?  Too early to tell.

I think it's a perfectly reasonable opinion to hold. Typically, it is really hard to replace a coach the caliber of a Kelly or a Harbaugh. It's typically even harder to do when you're not a traditional power school. So it's reasonable to ding Oregon a bit because of that uncertainty. Simply because Shaw worked out doesn't mean Helfrich will, too. They are two different individuals coaching at different schools.

In the medium to long term they'll be fine (irrespective of Helfrich's quality) because Uncle Phil's money pit is bottomless, but the future power rankings specifically concern themselves with the next three years.

Longterm Stanford fans should appreciate this more than most. The immediate successors to Walsh I and Ralston were not exactly brilliant coaches. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. So far we seem to have worked out with Shaw -- hopefully it will continue working out (and we won't have to replace Shaw in the near-term future. Hiring new coaches is always a gamble.)

[washingtonismoney]

It's just some guy's opinion.  Bulletin board material for the Ducks.  Losing Chip Kelly really was a hit to the program, but losing Harbaugh was seen at the time as equally damaging to ours.  David Shaw was a somewhat meh choice,  considered by many as a compromise, "homer" choice.  So how will Helfrich do in Eugene?  Too early to tell.

I think it's a perfectly reasonable opinion to hold. Typically, it is really hard to replace a coach the caliber of a Kelly or a Harbaugh. It's typically even harder to do when you're not a traditional power school. So it's reasonable to ding Oregon a bit because of that uncertainty. Simply because Shaw worked out doesn't mean Helfrich will, too. They are two different individuals coaching at different schools.

In the medium to long term they'll be fine (irrespective of Helfrich's quality) because Uncle Phil's money pit is bottomless, but the future power rankings specifically concern themselves with the next three years.

Longterm Stanford fans should appreciate this more than most. The immediate successors to Walsh I and Ralston were not exactly brilliant coaches. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. So far we seem to have worked out with Shaw -- hopefully it will continue working out (and we won't have to replace Shaw in the near-term future. Hiring new coaches is always a gamble.)