10-03-2013, 05:55 PM
Tour the new Stanford Football facility
The donors who made it possible. Some names you may be familiar with:
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10-03-2013, 07:35 PM
Thank you Pub for posting this video. I was literally just reading about it on the SFGATE.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
Thank you Pub for posting this video. I was literally just reading about it on the SFGATE.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
10-04-2013, 03:43 AM
(10-03-2013, 07:35 PM)Trevmiesterj link Wrote:Thank you Pub for posting this video. I was literally just reading about it on the SFGATE.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
I'm willing to wager Stanford got exactly what it wanted in its football facility. It's all bout differentiation and though Stanford wants top notch environs for its football team, it's not going to go completely overboard because it's not all about football at Stanford. Moreover, Stanford and Oregon are rarely going to battle for the same recruits. They may say they are considering both, but in most cases that just isn't very likely. I mean Joey Alfieri is in Oregon's backyard, has been a Duck fan his whole life, and would seem a lock to go to Oregon in most cases, but he's decided he wants to be a Stanford football player, not an Oregon one. Peter Kalambayi is another example. Who else with offers to both schools has demonstrated serious interest in Stanford and chosen Oregon instead?
To me, Stanford is competing with USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and Cal, then maybe Georgia, Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State, much more than Oregon for recruits.
(10-03-2013, 07:35 PM)Trevmiesterj link Wrote:Thank you Pub for posting this video. I was literally just reading about it on the SFGATE.
Inspired, classy and directed. I very much like the focus on the past players and legacy of the Stanford student athlete.
When comparing to the Oregon football facility, it doesn't compare, but then again, what does? That place is bananas.
I'm willing to wager Stanford got exactly what it wanted in its football facility. It's all bout differentiation and though Stanford wants top notch environs for its football team, it's not going to go completely overboard because it's not all about football at Stanford. Moreover, Stanford and Oregon are rarely going to battle for the same recruits. They may say they are considering both, but in most cases that just isn't very likely. I mean Joey Alfieri is in Oregon's backyard, has been a Duck fan his whole life, and would seem a lock to go to Oregon in most cases, but he's decided he wants to be a Stanford football player, not an Oregon one. Peter Kalambayi is another example. Who else with offers to both schools has demonstrated serious interest in Stanford and chosen Oregon instead?
To me, Stanford is competing with USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and Cal, then maybe Georgia, Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State, much more than Oregon for recruits.
10-04-2013, 05:58 AM
(10-04-2013, 03:43 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:. . . Who else with offers to both schools has demonstrated serious interest in Stanford and chosen Oregon instead?
To me, Stanford is competing with Under Stanford Control, UCLA, the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and Low APR U, then maybe Georgia, Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State, much more than Oregon for recruits.
Devon Allen picked Oregon over us, though their track program and relationship/proximity to Nike tipped the scales in the Ducks favor.Â
We're outrecruiting $outhernCal and UCLA nowadays. It seems like we only lose recruits to NW and Vanderbilt due to admissions. Our strongest competitors for recruiting nowadays are the Irish Figthings (Smythe), the Crimson Turd (Town), and Home State U.
(10-04-2013, 03:43 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:. . . Who else with offers to both schools has demonstrated serious interest in Stanford and chosen Oregon instead?
To me, Stanford is competing with Under Stanford Control, UCLA, the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, and Low APR U, then maybe Georgia, Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State, much more than Oregon for recruits.
Devon Allen picked Oregon over us, though their track program and relationship/proximity to Nike tipped the scales in the Ducks favor.Â
We're outrecruiting $outhernCal and UCLA nowadays. It seems like we only lose recruits to NW and Vanderbilt due to admissions. Our strongest competitors for recruiting nowadays are the Irish Figthings (Smythe), the Crimson Turd (Town), and Home State U.
10-04-2013, 07:40 AM
Us CARDboarders need to make a pact. Whoever gets inside the facility for a tour first needs to pull a Banksy and autocorrect a certain coach's name.
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Us CARDboarders need to make a pact. Whoever gets inside the facility for a tour first needs to pull a Banksy and autocorrect a certain coach's name.
10-04-2013, 08:30 AM
That would be the first and last time that person would ever be invited into any Stanford athletics facility...
10-04-2013, 10:42 AM
Did Allen even do an application? I tend to count only recruits who fill out Stanford apps as seriously interested. I don't know if Allen did or didn't, but I suspect not.
Did Allen even do an application? I tend to count only recruits who fill out Stanford apps as seriously interested. I don't know if Allen did or didn't, but I suspect not.
10-08-2013, 07:33 AM
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-...ball-staff
AP article on the new facilities. Great to see a study room honoring Stanford's Academic All-Americans. I wonder if other schools do that?
AP article on the new facilities. Great to see a study room honoring Stanford's Academic All-Americans. I wonder if other schools do that?
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-...ball-staff
AP article on the new facilities. Great to see a study room honoring Stanford's Academic All-Americans. I wonder if other schools do that?
AP article on the new facilities. Great to see a study room honoring Stanford's Academic All-Americans. I wonder if other schools do that?
10-08-2013, 08:00 AM
Quote: I wonder if other schools do that?
Seems like more university's have a separate student athlete study hall then a portion of their football facility dedicated to the studying. Here is one example. I believe Alabama has something similar.
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?...=205015255
Quote: I wonder if other schools do that?
Seems like more university's have a separate student athlete study hall then a portion of their football facility dedicated to the studying. Here is one example. I believe Alabama has something similar.
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?...=205015255
10-08-2013, 08:23 AM
Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
10-08-2013, 11:13 AM
(10-08-2013, 08:23 AM)Publius link Wrote:Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
I wonder if the new facilities are widening the gap between the haves and havenots at a higher learning institution. The facilities may mostly be funded by trusts and alumni donations, but I assume operation and maintenance costs would need to be covered by tuition income. What impact then? Increased tuition costs? Less funding for other facilities across the campus?Â
(10-08-2013, 08:23 AM)Publius link Wrote:Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
I wonder if the new facilities are widening the gap between the haves and havenots at a higher learning institution. The facilities may mostly be funded by trusts and alumni donations, but I assume operation and maintenance costs would need to be covered by tuition income. What impact then? Increased tuition costs? Less funding for other facilities across the campus?Â
10-08-2013, 11:30 AM
(10-08-2013, 11:13 AM)Trevmiesterj link Wrote:[quote author=Publius link=topic=8526.msg70607#msg70607 date=1381245812]
Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
I wonder if the new facilities are widening the gap between the haves and havenots at a higher learning institution. The facilities may mostly be funded by trusts and alumni donations, but I assume operation and maintenance costs would need to be covered by tuition income. What impact then? Increased tuition costs? Less funding for other facilities across the campus?Â
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Doesn't the athletics endowment cover operations, maintenance, etc., as well?
"To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression." ~ James Madison
(10-08-2013, 11:13 AM)Trevmiesterj link Wrote:[quote author=Publius link=topic=8526.msg70607#msg70607 date=1381245812]
Some of the most intellectually impressive people I've met went to IITs. I've heard stories about textbook to student ratios of 1 to 24. That's right. 24 students share 1 textbook. Each student gets an hour shift with the thing each day. That's how you learn to learn. Under constraint. I wonder if this facilities arms race across the country is doing the younger generation a disservice.
I wonder if the new facilities are widening the gap between the haves and havenots at a higher learning institution. The facilities may mostly be funded by trusts and alumni donations, but I assume operation and maintenance costs would need to be covered by tuition income. What impact then? Increased tuition costs? Less funding for other facilities across the campus?Â
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Doesn't the athletics endowment cover operations, maintenance, etc., as well?
"To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression." ~ James Madison
10-09-2013, 05:19 PM
(10-09-2013, 09:26 AM)garvin link Wrote:I remember -- I believe it was 1974 -- a time when the Athletic Department wanted to do some work on the stadium. I think the amount was relatively small as these things go, perhaps $50,000. But the announcement of the plan came at a time when Stanford was in a financial cruch and had revealed it was thinking of getting rid of the Classics Department.This is one of the reasons I can support Stanford Athletics. At 90% of the universities in the country, Athletics departments are parasitic on the general funds. Many go to great lengths to conceal this. At the low end is SJSU which has been spending about 2.5% of its (taxpayer supported) general funds on the athletics budget, but in some universities it gets up to 5-6-7%. At those levels the athletics departments do indeed consume more money than a Classics Department--probably more than half a dozen academic departments.
The controversy coincided with one of President Lyman's monthly visits to Stanford's Tuesday staff lunches, and he got hit with the question right away: How could the University be spening money on athletic facilities when it was cutting academics?
Lyman answered that the Athletic Department and its facilities were self-funded and self-maintained. It couldn't come begging for money from University general funds...but the flip side of that was that the University couldn't tell it not to spend its own money.
I would assume that applies to the rest of the department's facilities, too, though there may be an exception (or a small general-funds subsidy) for PE stuff that's available to the entire student body.
The day Stanford kills an academic department to pay for a money-losing athletics program is the day I cease being a fan. But since almost everyone at Stanford feels as I do--it won't happen. And that is what makes Stanford athletics special--the core academic values of the university that lie behind the program.
(10-09-2013, 09:26 AM)garvin link Wrote:I remember -- I believe it was 1974 -- a time when the Athletic Department wanted to do some work on the stadium. I think the amount was relatively small as these things go, perhaps $50,000. But the announcement of the plan came at a time when Stanford was in a financial cruch and had revealed it was thinking of getting rid of the Classics Department.This is one of the reasons I can support Stanford Athletics. At 90% of the universities in the country, Athletics departments are parasitic on the general funds. Many go to great lengths to conceal this. At the low end is SJSU which has been spending about 2.5% of its (taxpayer supported) general funds on the athletics budget, but in some universities it gets up to 5-6-7%. At those levels the athletics departments do indeed consume more money than a Classics Department--probably more than half a dozen academic departments.
The controversy coincided with one of President Lyman's monthly visits to Stanford's Tuesday staff lunches, and he got hit with the question right away: How could the University be spening money on athletic facilities when it was cutting academics?
Lyman answered that the Athletic Department and its facilities were self-funded and self-maintained. It couldn't come begging for money from University general funds...but the flip side of that was that the University couldn't tell it not to spend its own money.
I would assume that applies to the rest of the department's facilities, too, though there may be an exception (or a small general-funds subsidy) for PE stuff that's available to the entire student body.
The day Stanford kills an academic department to pay for a money-losing athletics program is the day I cease being a fan. But since almost everyone at Stanford feels as I do--it won't happen. And that is what makes Stanford athletics special--the core academic values of the university that lie behind the program.
10-10-2013, 11:14 AM
I love that image of the team running onto the field with the flag! Anyone have a link to it?
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