[JohnR34231]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

Maybe we just match up well against the Bruins. Who knows? Whatever the reason it was a great victory.

[JohnR34231]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

Maybe we just match up well against the Bruins. Who knows? Whatever the reason it was a great victory.

[Farm93]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

Maybe we just match up well against the Bruins. Who knows? Whatever the reason it was a great victory.

Hogan was a ridiculous 14 of 15 in the first half.  Hard to believe Stanford could have that kind of first half frequently this year.  It was almost as if Hogan understood that every NFL QB Scout would be at the game, so he had to bring his A+ game.

Great way to end the season.

[Farm93]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

Maybe we just match up well against the Bruins. Who knows? Whatever the reason it was a great victory.

Hogan was a ridiculous 14 of 15 in the first half.  Hard to believe Stanford could have that kind of first half frequently this year.  It was almost as if Hogan understood that every NFL QB Scout would be at the game, so he had to bring his A+ game.

Great way to end the season.

[CompSci87]

Funny how the announcers were ragging on Hogan and picking flaws until they noticed what a great game he was having and tore up that part of their script.

[CompSci87]

Funny how the announcers were ragging on Hogan and picking flaws until they noticed what a great game he was having and tore up that part of their script.

[fullmetal]

*That* was Stanford football.  I've missed it so much.

[fullmetal]

*That* was Stanford football.  I've missed it so much.

[Hank 91]

A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

[Hank 91]

A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

[terry]

Funny how the announcers were ragging on Hogan and picking flaws until they noticed what a great game he was having and tore up that part of their script.

Yeah, wasn't that a kick? The announcers were so wedded to their "Hundley's crowning triumph" story line that they were totally befuddled.

[terry]

Funny how the announcers were ragging on Hogan and picking flaws until they noticed what a great game he was having and tore up that part of their script.

Yeah, wasn't that a kick? The announcers were so wedded to their "Hundley's crowning triumph" story line that they were totally befuddled.

[fullmetal]

To be fair, no one saw this coming.  But to be fair, the announcers weren't watching the game that Jim Mora was seeing.  (Bahahaha, how'd y'like them apples?)

[fullmetal]

To be fair, no one saw this coming.  But to be fair, the announcers weren't watching the game that Jim Mora was seeing.  (Bahahaha, how'd y'like them apples?)

[Oasis]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

[Oasis]

Of course, it begs the question of why we couldn't have played a little more like that this year.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

[scorecard]

Interesting how this game started out almost exactly like the USC game.  First series by us ruined by dumb penalties, followed by USC/UCLA scoring very easily on their first drive.  I was starting to have a bad case of deja vu. 

After that though, it was the complete opposite of the USC game.  All the things that killed us against USC went in our favor today.  Offense was sharp with some creative playcalling, Hogan hit open men all over the field, special teams/kicking was solid, no fumbles or turnovers, and relatively few costly penalties (I'm not counting that completely ridiculous block-in-the-back penalty that went against Owusu and negated a beautiful McCaffrey punt return).  And the defense dominated.  Again.  Hope this momentum carries over.

Also nice that ASU lost some of their momentum by losing 2 out of their last 3 -- I wasn't so fond of Graham talking about how much they dominated us in every phase after that game.

[scorecard]

Interesting how this game started out almost exactly like the USC game.  First series by us ruined by dumb penalties, followed by USC/UCLA scoring very easily on their first drive.  I was starting to have a bad case of deja vu. 

After that though, it was the complete opposite of the USC game.  All the things that killed us against USC went in our favor today.  Offense was sharp with some creative playcalling, Hogan hit open men all over the field, special teams/kicking was solid, no fumbles or turnovers, and relatively few costly penalties (I'm not counting that completely ridiculous block-in-the-back penalty that went against Owusu and negated a beautiful McCaffrey punt return).  And the defense dominated.  Again.  Hope this momentum carries over.

Also nice that ASU lost some of their momentum by losing 2 out of their last 3 -- I wasn't so fond of Graham talking about how much they dominated us in every phase after that game.

[76lsjumb]

A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[76lsjumb]

A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[standfan]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=11234.msg106793#msg106793 date=1417228240]
A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
[/quote]

Nice. You earned a good fan badge for that road trip. I'm so glad the team rewarded you. The grapevine and Pacheco pass would have seemed long and windy after a USC or Utah type performance.

[standfan]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=11234.msg106793#msg106793 date=1417228240]
A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
[/quote]

Nice. You earned a good fan badge for that road trip. I'm so glad the team rewarded you. The grapevine and Pacheco pass would have seemed long and windy after a USC or Utah type performance.

[81alum]

To be fair, no one saw this coming.  But to be fair, the announcers weren't watching the game that Jim Mora was seeing.  (Bahahaha, how'd y'like them apples?)

Well, I predicted a 27-10 Stanford victory :)

After 11 bad predictions I guess I got lucky.

[81alum]

To be fair, no one saw this coming.  But to be fair, the announcers weren't watching the game that Jim Mora was seeing.  (Bahahaha, how'd y'like them apples?)

Well, I predicted a 27-10 Stanford victory :)

After 11 bad predictions I guess I got lucky.

[MustardtheBallCarrier]

As negative as I have been on Hogan all year (and really the last two years), it is only fair to give credit where credit is due.  He was awesome on Friday.  Really didn't look like the same player.  He was accurate and decisive with the ball, went through his progressions and didn't lock on his receivers and telegraph throws.  Most impressive was his footwork in the pocket.  The TD throw to Rector where he stepped up and threw a perfect ball was a thing of beauty.

I honestly have no idea where that performance came from.  Neither did Todd McShay or the announcers for that matter. 

[MustardtheBallCarrier]

As negative as I have been on Hogan all year (and really the last two years), it is only fair to give credit where credit is due.  He was awesome on Friday.  Really didn't look like the same player.  He was accurate and decisive with the ball, went through his progressions and didn't lock on his receivers and telegraph throws.  Most impressive was his footwork in the pocket.  The TD throw to Rector where he stepped up and threw a perfect ball was a thing of beauty.

I honestly have no idea where that performance came from.  Neither did Todd McShay or the announcers for that matter. 

[washingtonismoney]

I wonder whether Montgomery's absence caused Hogan to go through his progressions more.

[washingtonismoney]

I wonder whether Montgomery's absence caused Hogan to go through his progressions more.

[stupac2]

I wonder whether Montgomery's absence caused Hogan to go through his progressions more.

It certainly seemed like it. Though, honestly, I wonder how much of that is on him and how much is the playcall being "throw this one to Montgomery". It seems more likely that it's the former, but I saw him hitting his third read on plays against UCLA, if he can do it why wouldn't he do it all the time? It's so weird.

[stupac2]

I wonder whether Montgomery's absence caused Hogan to go through his progressions more.

It certainly seemed like it. Though, honestly, I wonder how much of that is on him and how much is the playcall being "throw this one to Montgomery". It seems more likely that it's the former, but I saw him hitting his third read on plays against UCLA, if he can do it why wouldn't he do it all the time? It's so weird.

[washingtonismoney]

It certainly seemed like it. Though, honestly, I wonder how much of that is on him and how much is the playcall being "throw this one to Montgomery". It seems more likely that it's the former, but I saw him hitting his third read on plays against UCLA, if he can do it why wouldn't he do it all the time? It's so weird.

Ben Muth's theory was that the playcalling changed: https://twitter.com/FO_wordofmuth/status...2893694976

I suspect it's a combination of factors; it seems like a lot of small changes. For one, it seems like -- even if we aren't fully embracing hurry-up no-huddle all the time -- we're getting to the line with more time on the clock. So instead of a panicky why-aren't-we-snapping-yet there may be more time to survey the defense pre-snap, which might make Hogan more comfortable with navigating the field post-snap.

Second, it seems like the offensive line is playing better. It's possible that, if you're a quarterback who thinks "I'm either going to get sacked or have to scramble fast," then you don't really bother moving beyond the first option because what's the point? By contrast, if you think you'll get time, you'll use it. 

The Montgomery theory we've talked about.

And, as BobK mentioned in another thread, hopefully Shaw (and we) aren't fooled by the past couple games. It could just be random!

[washingtonismoney]

It certainly seemed like it. Though, honestly, I wonder how much of that is on him and how much is the playcall being "throw this one to Montgomery". It seems more likely that it's the former, but I saw him hitting his third read on plays against UCLA, if he can do it why wouldn't he do it all the time? It's so weird.

Ben Muth's theory was that the playcalling changed: https://twitter.com/FO_wordofmuth/status...2893694976

I suspect it's a combination of factors; it seems like a lot of small changes. For one, it seems like -- even if we aren't fully embracing hurry-up no-huddle all the time -- we're getting to the line with more time on the clock. So instead of a panicky why-aren't-we-snapping-yet there may be more time to survey the defense pre-snap, which might make Hogan more comfortable with navigating the field post-snap.

Second, it seems like the offensive line is playing better. It's possible that, if you're a quarterback who thinks "I'm either going to get sacked or have to scramble fast," then you don't really bother moving beyond the first option because what's the point? By contrast, if you think you'll get time, you'll use it. 

The Montgomery theory we've talked about.

And, as BobK mentioned in another thread, hopefully Shaw (and we) aren't fooled by the past couple games. It could just be random!

[fullmetal]

I thought the OL play was much better vs. UCLA.  And Hogan's decision-making (progression reading?) seemed improved--quicker maybe.  His wind-up...well, whatever, it was a win.  Wish I could have said that about U$C, USB, Utah, Oregon, ASU, Oregon...etc.

[fullmetal]

I thought the OL play was much better vs. UCLA.  And Hogan's decision-making (progression reading?) seemed improved--quicker maybe.  His wind-up...well, whatever, it was a win.  Wish I could have said that about U$C, USB, Utah, Oregon, ASU, Oregon...etc.

[needle]

Wasn't watching with full attention b/c of the holiday, and upon looking at the box score I pondered the LESS HOGAN IS MORE HOGAN theory that is based on the idea that you don't ask Hogan to do too much through the air and the offense is better for it.

But that's dumb because Hogan had four pass attempts on each of Stanford's first two scoring drives, and six attempts on Stanford's third scoring drive. Yeah, there were some highlight runs, but the bread-and-butter was Hogan making throws.

I'd guess we should give the receivers some credit here for getting open, in addition to playcalling My overall impression is that Hogan exhibited great pocket awareness and feel for when and where to move so as to avoid a not-completely-impotent UCLA pass rush.

[needle]

Wasn't watching with full attention b/c of the holiday, and upon looking at the box score I pondered the LESS HOGAN IS MORE HOGAN theory that is based on the idea that you don't ask Hogan to do too much through the air and the offense is better for it.

But that's dumb because Hogan had four pass attempts on each of Stanford's first two scoring drives, and six attempts on Stanford's third scoring drive. Yeah, there were some highlight runs, but the bread-and-butter was Hogan making throws.

I'd guess we should give the receivers some credit here for getting open, in addition to playcalling My overall impression is that Hogan exhibited great pocket awareness and feel for when and where to move so as to avoid a not-completely-impotent UCLA pass rush.

[Mick]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=11234.msg106793#msg106793 date=1417228240]
A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
[/quote]


Simply outstanding description.  I envy you completely. 

BTW, I've stopped at that Kettleman's City In-N-Out probably two dozen times over the last decade on the way back from volleyball tournaments.

[Mick]

[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=11234.msg106793#msg106793 date=1417228240]
A dispatch from the front lines: I was at the game, sitting in great seats at the 40 yard line but amidst the UCLA faithful. Even by California standards, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, probably mid 80s at kickoff. As the heat mounted (we were on the sunny side) and the Cardinal death grip on the game tightened, the UCLA folks just kept getting more and more quiet. People actually started leaving towards the end of the third quarter, and when Hogan threw that dart to Owusu -- the fortyish yard play early in the fourth quarter before the field goal, it was as if half the stadium got up and left. It was all pretty delicious.

If you were at the game, you must have been as impressed as I was by our new placekicker -- W.illingham is the guy's name...at least according to the stadium announcer.  To be fair, I believe he got the name right on his eleventh [and last] kick.

My son and I decided hey...why not?, so we left Menlo Park this a.m. at 5:35, got to the Rose Bowl at 11:15, got our burgers and took our StubHub seats in Section 15 [one over from the main Stanford section, but mostly surrounded -- at the beginning of the game, that is  ;D -- by Bruin fans], thoroughly enjoyed the game [although, as is always the case, remained extremely worried that the lead would run out before the clock did], sang Hail!, walked back to our car at the end of the golf course, smiling widely at the already largely vacant parking lots, got back quickly on the 210, listened to the UCLA radio guys lament how Shaw thoroughly outcoached Mora...again..., stopped at In-n-Out in Kettleman City, and got back to Menlo Park around 10:20 pm.

Boy...that was fun!    zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
[/quote]


Simply outstanding description.  I envy you completely. 

BTW, I've stopped at that Kettleman's City In-N-Out probably two dozen times over the last decade on the way back from volleyball tournaments.

[CowboyIndian]

So what's wrong with Harris Ranch?

The In-n-Out is right off I-5 as I recall, which is actually the suburbs of Kettleman City.  ;D

[CowboyIndian]

So what's wrong with Harris Ranch?

The In-n-Out is right off I-5 as I recall, which is actually the suburbs of Kettleman City.  ;D