[winflop]

Rules of golf say if you don't find it in five minutes it's lost even if it's found later.  You have to go back to where you hit your last shot from and take a one-stroke penalty (in addition to the stroke you took when you hit it the first time).  This is often referred to as "losing stroke AND distance" and is different from when a ball is hit into a water hazard marked by yellow or red stakes where you are penalized a stroke but don't lose the distance.

So if you hit a tee shot and lose the ball or hit it OB, your second tee shot will be your third stroke.  This is how you end up with 7s and 8s on your scorecard - speaking from VAST experience here :)

To improve the speed of play, if you think your ball may not be found or may be out of bounds (same penalty as lost ball), you hit a provisional ball.  If you find your first ball, you pick up your provisional.  If you don't, then you play your provisional with the appropriate penalties and don't have to go all the way back to where you hit your last shot.

[winflop]

Rules of golf say if you don't find it in five minutes it's lost even if it's found later.  You have to go back to where you hit your last shot from and take a one-stroke penalty (in addition to the stroke you took when you hit it the first time).  This is often referred to as "losing stroke AND distance" and is different from when a ball is hit into a water hazard marked by yellow or red stakes where you are penalized a stroke but don't lose the distance.

So if you hit a tee shot and lose the ball or hit it OB, your second tee shot will be your third stroke.  This is how you end up with 7s and 8s on your scorecard - speaking from VAST experience here :)

To improve the speed of play, if you think your ball may not be found or may be out of bounds (same penalty as lost ball), you hit a provisional ball.  If you find your first ball, you pick up your provisional.  If you don't, then you play your provisional with the appropriate penalties and don't have to go all the way back to where you hit your last shot.

[Mick]

It's a little like going to a AAA baseball game.  There are some extraordinary players who are going to be stars.  There are also a great number of very good players who are going to be club champions year in and year out.  There are some really-not-so-good players who are going to be accountants lobbyists. 

Based upon 20 years in the accounting profession and lots of time spent recently with lobbyists, I'd favor the lobbyists to be the ex-college golfers.

I have a particularly tough time at Poppy Hills -- too narrow a track for me -- and I played it with two friends.  A fourth joined us, and shot a 69 from the tips without trying too terribly hard.  Sure enough, a lobbyist in Sacramento who plays 4-5 times a week.  Must be a nice life.

[Mick]

It's a little like going to a AAA baseball game.  There are some extraordinary players who are going to be stars.  There are also a great number of very good players who are going to be club champions year in and year out.  There are some really-not-so-good players who are going to be accountants lobbyists. 

Based upon 20 years in the accounting profession and lots of time spent recently with lobbyists, I'd favor the lobbyists to be the ex-college golfers.

I have a particularly tough time at Poppy Hills -- too narrow a track for me -- and I played it with two friends.  A fourth joined us, and shot a 69 from the tips without trying too terribly hard.  Sure enough, a lobbyist in Sacramento who plays 4-5 times a week.  Must be a nice life.

[CornFed]

Mick, since your saying lobbyists are really, really good, and presuming you would rather select a profession other than your own, let's say the not-so-great college golfers will be politicians.  Everyone hates them, and with only a few exceptions, they suck at the game.

[CornFed]

Mick, since your saying lobbyists are really, really good, and presuming you would rather select a profession other than your own, let's say the not-so-great college golfers will be politicians.  Everyone hates them, and with only a few exceptions, they suck at the game.

[winflop]

I'd rather be a well-liked bogey golfer than a scratch golfer with no friends

[winflop]

I'd rather be a well-liked bogey golfer than a scratch golfer with no friends

[CornFed]

I'd rather be a well-liked bogey golfer than a scratch golfer with no friends

Sheesh.  I'd rather be a politician than have no friends.  However, I'm not sure politicians have any real friendships, so it may be the same as having no friends.

[CornFed]

I'd rather be a well-liked bogey golfer than a scratch golfer with no friends

Sheesh.  I'd rather be a politician than have no friends.  However, I'm not sure politicians have any real friendships, so it may be the same as having no friends.

[BostonCard]

https://pac-12.com/article/2015/04/29/st...list-honor

Stanford sophomore Maverick McNealy became the third Stanford golfer in the last four years to capture Pac-12 medalist honors, joining former Cardinal Andrew Yun (2012) and Patrick Rodgers (2014). McNealy posted a course-record 9-under 61 to finish the Championships at 18-under 262 (65-68-68-61) to earn his fifth victory this season.

“The game plan for the start of the day was to be patient and to press my advantage when I got it,” said McNealy. “It felt great from the get go. I was thinking pedal to the metal, because obviously our team was in it and I didn’t really matter how the individual thing was shaking out anymore, but I wanted to get more birdies to help the team.”

McNealy’s total score of 262 was a Pac-12 Championship four round low score record, while his 61 tied for second lowest score in a single round at the Pac-12 Championships.

BC

[BostonCard]

https://pac-12.com/article/2015/04/29/st...list-honor

Stanford sophomore Maverick McNealy became the third Stanford golfer in the last four years to capture Pac-12 medalist honors, joining former Cardinal Andrew Yun (2012) and Patrick Rodgers (2014). McNealy posted a course-record 9-under 61 to finish the Championships at 18-under 262 (65-68-68-61) to earn his fifth victory this season.

“The game plan for the start of the day was to be patient and to press my advantage when I got it,” said McNealy. “It felt great from the get go. I was thinking pedal to the metal, because obviously our team was in it and I didn’t really matter how the individual thing was shaking out anymore, but I wanted to get more birdies to help the team.”

McNealy’s total score of 262 was a Pac-12 Championship four round low score record, while his 61 tied for second lowest score in a single round at the Pac-12 Championships.

BC