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Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Spiny_Norman - 11-28-2020

Looks like Stanford football will be practicing elsewhere in preparation for Washington. This order probably means no WBB and MBB home games either.

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RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Goose - 11-28-2020

A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - cardcrimson - 11-28-2020

(11-28-2020, 04:14 PM)Goose Wrote:  A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.

Wonder what that means for the 49ers?


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - JJJ - 11-28-2020

The Athletic just had a short blurb that the 49ers, Sharks, and Stanford would be "temporarily banned from home activities by Santa Clara County" (to be updated).


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - cardcrimson - 11-28-2020

Answered my own question. No 49ers. No Spartans. No Cardinal. No hoops. No football. No nothing. Science please, can someone point to an outbreak coming from any of those teams?


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - M T - 11-28-2020

I believe all away games (at least, beyond SF or Berkeley) are in effect prohibited because of a mandatory 14-day quarantine upon return.

As I said elsewhere, I expect swimming and T&F are allowed to continue practicing.


lex24 - lex24 - 11-28-2020

(11-28-2020, 04:14 PM)Goose Wrote:  A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.

How bout some evidence that anything involved with Stanford athletics, The 49ers , SJS sports, The Sharks, The SJ soccer team  has been in any way a contributor to the spread of Covid?   My guess is it’s just the opposite. That by these athletes being largely separated into their own bubbles staying or trying to stay away from Covid in order to play the games and all of the testing and protocals that goes into what has to happen for these games to go on that the Covid level is lower amongst this group that in the population  in general. And certainly no supersreaders.


RE: lex24 - CompSci87 - 11-28-2020

(11-28-2020, 04:59 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(11-28-2020, 04:14 PM)Goose Wrote:  A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.

How bout some evidence that anything involved with Stanford athletics, The 49ers , SJS sports, The Sharks, The SJ soccer team  has been in any way a contributor to the spread of Covid?   My guess is it’s just the opposite. That by these athletes being largely separated into their own bubbles staying or trying to stay away from Covid in order to play the games and all of the testing and protocals that goes into what has to happen for these games to go on that the Covid level is lower amongst this group that in the population  in general. And certainly no supersreaders.

Yes, shutting down college and pro sports doesn't make much sense to me, given how careful both are with testing and other measures to avoid spreading the virus. Sigh.


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Believer - 11-28-2020

3.5% infection rate in SCC. Utah was playing HS Football with fans in the stands and had an infection rate of 15%. 

Stanford FB tests its players 7-8 times a week and has had a 0% infection rate since July. Take away FB and you can guarantee players will fall into the 3.5% infection rate or worse.


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Softball Fan - 11-28-2020

Wow, WVB practice was scheduled to start early January.   First match January 22.  I expect a high probability this Covid policy will be extended through the year end holidays.

Hambly could find some place to practice outside the county and schedule games elsewhere.  It probably isn't worth it.  I expect the PAC-12 or possibly even the NCAA will postpone WVB into late February or possibly cancel it completely.


RE: lex24 - cardcrimson - 11-28-2020

(11-28-2020, 05:30 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  
(11-28-2020, 04:59 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(11-28-2020, 04:14 PM)Goose Wrote:  A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.

How bout some evidence that anything involved with Stanford athletics, The 49ers , SJS sports, The Sharks, The SJ soccer team  has been in any way a contributor to the spread of Covid?   My guess is it’s just the opposite. That by these athletes being largely separated into their own bubbles staying or trying to stay away from Covid in order to play the games and all of the testing and protocals that goes into what has to happen for these games to go on that the Covid level is lower amongst this group that in the population  in general. And certainly no supersreaders.

Yes, shutting down college and pro sports doesn't make much sense to me, given how careful both are with testing and other measures to avoid spreading the virus. Sigh.

I'd give you a plus one, but since my opinions differ from the masses, that privilege has be taken away by the mods. . . .


RE: lex24 - winflop - 11-29-2020

(11-28-2020, 04:59 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(11-28-2020, 04:14 PM)Goose Wrote:  A big question now is what should Stanford do? It can be argued that if you are in an area where contact sports are prohibited, just shut it down. Any attempt to bypass the ban by practicing in San Mateo County (which went purple today) is arguably not in the spirit of the SCC ban. OTOH, possibly the SCC ban is a bit too aggressive and evading it isn't so bad. The next question is that if you want to keep playing, do you play Oregon State in Oregon? You won't be able to play it at Stanford.

As much as I would like to see Stanford play football, and as much as I doubt doing so contributes measurably to the spread of COVID-19, I think you have to shut it down for the year. Stanford is part of the community and has to abide by the regulations, even though it sucks for the athletes.

How bout some evidence that anything involved with Stanford athletics, The 49ers , SJS sports, The Sharks, The SJ soccer team  has been in any way a contributor to the spread of Covid?   My guess is it’s just the opposite. That by these athletes being largely separated into their own bubbles staying or trying to stay away from Covid in order to play the games and all of the testing and protocals that goes into what has to happen for these games to go on that the Covid level is lower amongst this group that in the population  in general. And certainly no supersreaders.

Why start "listening to the scientists" now Lex? (heavy sarcasm)

Niners will move out of state because they can afford to. Sharks and Dubs too. Stanford Football might but I expect the rest are going to shut down completely


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Row80Critic - 11-29-2020

Stanford football, in a vacuum, is probably not contributing meaningfully --if at all-- to the risk of spread.  But... when you combine it will all contact sports at Stanford, and all sports at SJSU, and Santa Clara U, and Mission, De Anza, Foothill, West Valley, a few dozen high schools, the 49ers, etc., etc., and add in all the supporting activities and coaching and TV crews, it seems rational to suspect that the risk accumulates into something meaningful.   I'm sure the county is trying its best in the face of unprecedented circumstances, and doubt they are taking joy in the decision or taking it lightly.  From a social policy perspective, I imagine it's hard-to-impossible to implement effective rules/restrictions that perfectly track the associated risks.  Speed limits apply equally to 99-year-olds and NASCAR drivers, and not everyone becomes suddenly mature enough to drink alcohol on their 21st birthday.  Just my two cents.

As for the team, here's an idea:  travel to Washington today/tomorrow and practice at a local high school for the game.  Then, after beating UW soundly, travel to Corvallis without coming home, get the Beavs to host the game, and practice at a local high school there.  Not sure how Stanford is handling classes, but I presume the players are using Zoom for classes anyway, so not sure it makes much difference from that perspective if they are in Palo Alto, Seattle, Corvallis, or Paris...


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - cardcrimson - 11-29-2020

(11-29-2020, 09:58 AM)Row80Critic Wrote:  Stanford football, in a vacuum, is probably not contributing meaningfully --if at all-- to the risk of spread.  But... when you combine it will all contact sports at Stanford, and all sports at SJSU, and Santa Clara U, and Mission, De Anza, Foothill, West Valley, a few dozen high schools, the 49ers, etc., etc., and add in all the supporting activities and coaching and TV crews, it seems rational to suspect that the risk accumulates into something meaningful.   I'm sure the county is trying its best in the face of unprecedented circumstances, and doubt they are taking joy in the decision or taking it lightly.  From a social policy perspective, I imagine it's hard-to-impossible to implement effective rules/restrictions that perfectly track the associated risks.  Speed limits apply equally to 99-year-olds and NASCAR drivers, and not everyone becomes suddenly mature enough to drink alcohol on their 21st birthday.  Just my two cents.

As for the team, here's an idea:  travel to Washington today/tomorrow and practice at a local high school for the game.  Then, after beating UW soundly, travel to Corvallis without coming home, get the Beavs to host the game, and practice at a local high school there.  Not sure how Stanford is handling classes, but I presume the players are using Zoom for classes anyway, so not sure it makes much difference from that perspective if they are in Palo Alto, Seattle, Corvallis, or Paris...

If they leave, they face a 14 day quarantine when they return per the health czar. . . .


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Row80Critic - 11-29-2020

Quote:If they leave, they face a 14 day quarantine when they return per the health czar. . . .

Meh....  season's over, time to study for finals... good time for quiet reflection. :)


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - JohnR34231 - 11-29-2020

(11-29-2020, 10:20 AM)Row80Critic Wrote:  
Quote:If they leave, they face a 14 day quarantine when they return per the health czar. . . .

Meh....  season's over, time to study for finals... good time for quiet reflection. :)

I thought there was supposed to be one more game after that against someone from the other division. Has that now been officially cancelled?


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - cardcrimson - 11-29-2020

Has to be so tough for the kids. Over the last few days, I've seen three Stanford and two UCLA women's water polo players training on multiple occasions at a local pool here in the East Bay. Still working really hard with a great attitude even though they're facing an unknown future.


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - BobK - 11-29-2020

The fall Qtr at Stanford ended November 20. No classes until January 11


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - cardcrimson - 11-29-2020

(11-29-2020, 10:50 AM)BobK Wrote:  The fall Qtr at Stanford ended November 20.  No classes until January 11

Thought finals were to be after Thanksgiving, but I read that the Academic Senate decided no finals for undergrad or grad students. Wow.


RE: Santa Clara County prohibits all contact sports - Phogge - 11-29-2020

PAC 12 should play in a bubble in Vermont. Lowest Covid positive rate.