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Breaking News: Olympics - cardcrimson - 12-08-2020
Break Dancing has been added as an official sport for the 2024 Games in Paris.
Skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing added as well.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-olympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024
Is there any truth to the rumor that Muir, after eliminating wrestling and volleyball, is adding a men's break dancing team?
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - BobK - 12-08-2020
No but Oregon will keep their sport
https://goducks.com/sports/acrobatics-tumbling/roster
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Mick - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 08:14 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Break Dancing has been added as an official sport for the 2024 Games in Paris. Skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing added as well.
I was genuinely surprised that it wasn't an Onion or Babylon Bee story...
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Farm93 - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 08:14 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Break Dancing has been added as an official sport for the 2024 Games in Paris.New men's team?
Skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing added as well.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-olympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024
Is there any truth to the rumor that Muir, after eliminating wrestling and volleyball, is adding a men's break dancing team?
Highly unlikely
For schools struggling with Title IX compliance a women's breaking team seems inevitable, and would have more TV appeal than the bowling teams.
Seriously though, I think blaming this on the AD and finances ignores the other issue that Varsity Blues uncovered, the potential for vastly easier admissions.
It was, and still is, rather easy for families with exceptional wealth to get their kids to dabble in expensive sports (fencing, rowing, sailing, golf, etc.) as that is a much easier way to get into highly selective schools than any academic path. Varsity Blues fabricated sports accomplishments and tossed in bribes, but the underlying problem of lenient admission decisions for athletes at selective schools remains.
I know Stanford has some of the best athletes in those expensive sports, but it is rather clear now that they often compete against schools that have rosters stuffed with quite a number of kids without a lot of ability from big donor families.
For a school only accepting 4% of its applicants that type of the sports-exclusively-for-the-elite backdoor becomes a problem, especially if 12+% of its total slots are dedicated to athletics.
The financials made it easier to make this call in 2020, but I think the university was eager to reduce the number of athletes, especially in expensive sports primarily enjoyed by wealthy families.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - BobK - 12-08-2020
And to make way for silly sports baseball has been Dropped from the 2024 Olympics
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - BostonCard - 12-08-2020
Makes sense until you get to wrestling, probably one of the most blue collar sports out there.
Dan Gable was just given the presidential medal of freedom. I liked this exchange during the speech:
Quote:TRUMP: As a wrestler, Dan set a pin streak record of 25 consecutive pins. Now, I’m larger than you, a little bit. Do you think I could take you in wrestling? Would I have a big advantage?
MR. GABLE: No, you would have no chance. (Laughter.)
BC
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Phogge - 12-08-2020
Don’t be sad Bobbbbb, you can still make the Senior Olympic break dancing team. You will have to get a new wardrobe.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - BostonCard - 12-08-2020
I'm still sad that they took out tug-of-war. Not to mention equestrian long jump and equestrian high jump. And of course solo "syncronized" swimming. At that point, isn't it just "swimming"?
BC
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Mick - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 09:09 AM)Farm93 Wrote: Seriously though, I think blaming this on the AD and finances ignores the other issue that Varsity Blues uncovered, the potential for vastly easier admissions.
It was, and still is, rather easy for families with exceptional wealth to get their kids to dabble in expensive sports (fencing, rowing, sailing, golf, etc.) as that is a much easier way to get into highly selective schools than any academic path. Varsity Blues fabricated sports accomplishments and tossed in bribes, but the underlying problem of lenient admission decisions for athletes at selective schools remains.
I know Stanford has some of the best athletes in those expensive sports, but it is rather clear now that they often compete against schools that have rosters stuffed with quite a number of kids without a lot of ability from big donor families.
For a school only accepting 4% of its applicants that type of the sports-exclusively-for-the-elite backdoor becomes a problem, especially if 12+% of its total slots are dedicated to athletics.
The financials made it easier to make this call in 2020, but I think the university was eager to reduce the number of athletes, especially in expensive sports primarily enjoyed by wealthy families.
I agree that admissions is "much easier" for athletes. For example, a decade ago, Stanford men's volleyball accepted a student with an 1,880 SAT and a sub-4.00 weighted GPA, at least according to his father. That was considerably south of Stanford's frosh profile at the time.
But I don't know that it's true across the board. As I understand it, it's generally considered to be a way to differentiate a student in an additive way, to complement rather than supplant academic qualifications. For example, my son's incoming class of three volleyball players at Princeton had the following SAT/GPA/AP classes profiles:
1) 800 M 720 V 780 O / 4.66, 8 APs.
2) 720 M 760 V 740 O / 4.48, 7 APs.
3) 760 M 770 V 780 O / 4.43, 9 APs.
I may be wrong, but my general sense was that those academic qualifications weren't all that far off of the average Princeton frosh at the time.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Papa John - 12-08-2020
I'm old (ancient) school, so I vote that the Olympic Games bring back pankration and chariot racing.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - cardcrimson - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 09:09 AM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-08-2020, 08:14 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Break Dancing has been added as an official sport for the 2024 Games in Paris.New men's team?
Skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing added as well.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-olympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024
Is there any truth to the rumor that Muir, after eliminating wrestling and volleyball, is adding a men's break dancing team?
Highly unlikely
For schools struggling with Title IX compliance a women's breaking team seems inevitable, and would have more TV appeal than the bowling teams.
Seriously though, I think blaming this on the AD and finances ignores the other issue that Varsity Blues uncovered, the potential for vastly easier admissions.
It was, and still is, rather easy for families with exceptional wealth to get their kids to dabble in expensive sports (fencing, rowing, sailing, golf, etc.) as that is a much easier way to get into highly selective schools than any academic path. Varsity Blues fabricated sports accomplishments and tossed in bribes, but the underlying problem of lenient admission decisions for athletes at selective schools remains.
I know Stanford has some of the best athletes in those expensive sports, but it is rather clear now that they often compete against schools that have rosters stuffed with quite a number of kids without a lot of ability from big donor families.
For a school only accepting 4% of its applicants that type of the sports-exclusively-for-the-elite backdoor becomes a problem, especially if 12+% of its total slots are dedicated to athletics.
The financials made it easier to make this call in 2020, but I think the university was eager to reduce the number of athletes, especially in expensive sports primarily enjoyed by wealthy families.
Um, I was joking about the men's dance team.
That said, my daughter dabbled in fencing for a very short time. Several years ago, we went to the Dickens Faire at the Cow Palace, where they had a fencing booth offering a quick lesson for $10 or something. She enjoyed it and the instructor told us she was pretty good for a first timer. The next year we tried it again, and had the same instructor, who actually remembered her. Again, she had fun so we looked for a local fencing gym. The only one in the East Bay was in downtown Oakland, and was hardly an "upscale" establishment. The kids were extremely diverse, economically, socially, racially, etc. and completely different from the stereotype associated with the sport. Exceptional wealth of the parents. No. Not by any stretch. Ended up giving it up in favor of water polo, another sport becoming much more diverse than the stereotypes suggest.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Langdude - 12-08-2020
That's so weird. More approval of sports that benefit wealthier countries as the Olympics inches closer to the X Games.
Here's a promo of the Olympics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA3oRP-qmcM
-m.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - teejers1 - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 09:09 AM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-08-2020, 08:14 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Break Dancing has been added as an official sport for the 2024 Games in Paris.New men's team?
Skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing added as well.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/30470282/breakdancing-gets-olympic-status-debut-paris-games-2024
Is there any truth to the rumor that Muir, after eliminating wrestling and volleyball, is adding a men's break dancing team?
Highly unlikely
For schools struggling with Title IX compliance a women's breaking team seems inevitable, and would have more TV appeal than the bowling teams.
Seriously though, I think blaming this on the AD and finances ignores the other issue that Varsity Blues uncovered, the potential for vastly easier admissions.
It was, and still is, rather easy for families with exceptional wealth to get their kids to dabble in expensive sports (fencing, rowing, sailing, golf, etc.) as that is a much easier way to get into highly selective schools than any academic path. Varsity Blues fabricated sports accomplishments and tossed in bribes, but the underlying problem of lenient admission decisions for athletes at selective schools remains.
I know Stanford has some of the best athletes in those expensive sports, but it is rather clear now that they often compete against schools that have rosters stuffed with quite a number of kids without a lot of ability from big donor families.
For a school only accepting 4% of its applicants that type of the sports-exclusively-for-the-elite backdoor becomes a problem, especially if 12+% of its total slots are dedicated to athletics.
The financials made it easier to make this call in 2020, but I think the university was eager to reduce the number of athletes, especially in expensive sports primarily enjoyed by wealthy families.
I happen to agree that Stanford dumped those sports for "social justice" reasons and not due to money or Title IX or anything else. That's why Bernard continually says "those sports aren't coming back even if they can generate sufficient funding."
If that is the case, then Stanford should come correct about it - why try to hide it?
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Phogge - 12-08-2020
Crimson, my wife took some fencing lessons in Marin City at a local playground gym. He advertised in the weekly paper that came out of Mill Valley. One fencing add, a couple of tennis notices and about a thousand "looking for a rich guy" come ons.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - cardcrimson - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 12:24 PM)Phogge Wrote: Crimson, my wife took some fencing lessons in Marin City at a local playground gym. He advertised in the weekly paper that came out of Mill Valley. One fencing add, a couple of tennis notices and about a thousand "looking for a rich guy" come ons.
There's a joke in there somewhere, but alas, no one would appreciate it.
Fencing seems to be a really fun sport, one that resonates across all backgrounds--who hasn't dreamed of being Errol Flynn or playing Zorro, Luke Skywalker or Captain Jack Sparrow. . . .
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Mick - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 11:46 AM)teejers1 Wrote: I happen to agree that Stanford dumped those sports for "social justice" reasons and not due to money or Title IX or anything else. That's why Bernard continually says "those sports aren't coming back even if they can generate sufficient funding."
If that is the case, then Stanford should come correct about it - why try to hide it?
Based upon Stanford's publicized demographic profile, I'd say they're already achieving their aims.
https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/undergraduate-profile/
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - teejers1 - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 04:09 PM)Mick Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:46 AM)teejers1 Wrote: I happen to agree that Stanford dumped those sports for "social justice" reasons and not due to money or Title IX or anything else. That's why Bernard continually says "those sports aren't coming back even if they can generate sufficient funding."
If that is the case, then Stanford should come correct about it - why try to hide it?
Based upon Stanford's publicized demographic profile, I'd say they're already achieving their aims.
https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/undergraduate-profile/
Whether I agree with you or not, Stanford should be transparent about what is motivating its decisions.
P.S. And Mick, you're forgetting about the institutional racism that is worse on campus than in the rest of society (as at least one poster here posited).
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - martyup - 12-08-2020
The thing is, how are they going to judge break dancing? There are so many different styles. This invites the kind of subjective judging that has plagued the Olympics in recent decades. Just ask Roy Jones, Jr.
I mean if they treat it like figure skating by imposing a compulsory routine (e.g., enter with a moon walk to a basic toprock for 1 minute finishing a spindle, transitioning to five 360 degree back spins elevating into a triple head spin, finishing with and elbow freeze) it will take the funk out of the art form.
If they allow freeform dancing, will they favor b-boying over electric boogaloo? It is so subjective. B-girl Kastet from Russia and B-boy Shigekix from Japan won the 17th edition of the prestigious Red Bull BC One World 2020 Breakdance competition in Salzburg a few weeks ago. Who knows, we might see Les Twins or Hilty and Bosch come out of retirement.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - cardcrimson - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 06:34 PM)martyup Wrote: The thing is, how are they going to judge break dancing? There are so many different styles. This invites the kind of subjective judging that has plagued the Olympics in recent decades. Just ask Roy Jones, Jr.
I mean if they treat it like figure skating by imposing a compulsory routine (e.g., enter with a moon walk to a basic toprock for 1 minute finishing a spindle, transitioning to five 360 degree back spins elevating into a triple head spin, finishing with and elbow freeze) it will take the funk out of the art form.
If they allow freeform dancing, will they favor b-boying over electric boogaloo? It is so subjective. B-girl Kastet from Russia and B-boy Shigekix from Japan won the 17th edition of the prestigious Red Bull BC One World 2020 Breakdance competition in Salzburg a few weeks ago. Who knows, we might see Les Twins or Hilty and Bosch come out of retirement.
Outstanding analysis.
RE: Breaking News: Olympics - Mick - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 05:04 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-08-2020, 04:09 PM)Mick Wrote:(12-08-2020, 11:46 AM)teejers1 Wrote: I happen to agree that Stanford dumped those sports for "social justice" reasons and not due to money or Title IX or anything else. That's why Bernard continually says "those sports aren't coming back even if they can generate sufficient funding."
If that is the case, then Stanford should come correct about it - why try to hide it?
Based upon Stanford's publicized demographic profile, I'd say they're already achieving their aims.
https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/undergraduate-profile/
Whether I agree with you or not, Stanford should be transparent about what is motivating its decisions.
P.S. And Mick, you're forgetting about the institutional racism that is worse on campus than in the rest of society (as at least one poster here posited).
I think of all the posts I've read on this forum, that's maybe not the most unbelievable, but certainly in the Top Five, for me at any rate.