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RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 04-30-2024

Canseco or McGuire?


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 04-30-2024

Watched the Giants vs. Red Sox tonight. I noticed that the Red Sox had retired a lot of numbers (10). I looked it up, it was about average.

There are 16 original teams in MLB dating from the turn of the last century (Athletics, Braves, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Indians/Guardians, Orioles, Phillies, Pirates, Red Sox, Reds, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees)

Which American League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? Which National League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? The answer is here, if you'd like to look it up: https://www.mlb.com/news/every-mlb-team-s-retired-numbers-c300753386

Just an odd aside...there were five original Hall of Fame members; Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner. Only one has not had their jersey retired by their team. Which one?


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - BostonCard - 04-30-2024

Not Canseco, McGuire, or Bonds.

Like Gary Carter, this player had a brief stint with the Giants but is most known for his career on another team.  He's a five-time all-star, two-time world champion, won two silver sluggers and was the AL RBI leader once (not in 1994).

BC


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Giants - 04-30-2024

Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714524341' Wrote:  1714524341[/url]']
Watched the Giants vs. Red Sox tonight. I noticed that the Red Sox had retired a lot of numbers (10). I looked it up, it was about average.

There are 16 original teams in MLB dating from the turn of the last century (Athletics, Braves, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Indians/Guardians, Orioles, Phillies, Pirates, Red Sox, Reds, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees)

Which American League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? Which National League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? The answer is here, if you'd like to look it up: https://www.mlb.com/news/every-mlb-team-s-retired-numbers-c300753386

Just an odd aside...there were five original Hall of Fame members; Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner. Only one has not had their jersey retired by their team. Which one?

Like some teams, I don’t think the Twins acknowledge the greats from the club prior to its relocation (the A’s are in that group).  Therefore, I would guess Walter Johnson.

Note:  Like Christy Mathewson, I don’t believe Johnson ever had a number on his jersey.  Of course, that didn’t stop SF from honoring Mathewson with a retirement disk.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - terry - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 06:03 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Not Canseco, McGuire, or Bonds.

Like Gary Carter, this player had a brief stint with the Giants but is most known for his career on another team.  He's a five-time all-star, two-time world champion, won two silver sluggers and was the AL RBI leader once (not in 1994).

BC

I was going to guess someone like Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas, McGriff, or Puckett, but I don't think any of them played for the Giants.

That he's a two-time World Series winner could mean he played for the Twins, Blue Jays, or Yankees. But I'm not sure who that would be.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 06:03 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Not Canseco, McGuire, or Bonds.

Like Gary Carter, this player had a brief stint with the Giants but is most known for his career on another team.  He's a five-time all-star, two-time world champion, won two silver sluggers and was the AL RBI leader once (not in 1994).

BC

GREAT question. I was stumped, looked it up. Completely forgot he played for the Giants. And he had his highest career OPS (.884) of any team with the Giants.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - lex24 - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 06:03 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Not Canseco, McGuire, or Bonds.

Like Gary Carter, this player had a brief stint with the Giants but is most known for his career on another team.  He's a five-time all-star, two-time world champion, won two silver sluggers and was the AL RBI leader once (not in 1994).

BC

Joe Carter.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 06:43 PM)Giants Wrote:  
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714524341' Wrote:  1714524341[/url]']
Watched the Giants vs. Red Sox tonight. I noticed that the Red Sox had retired a lot of numbers (10). I looked it up, it was about average.

There are 16 original teams in MLB dating from the turn of the last century (Athletics, Braves, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Indians/Guardians, Orioles, Phillies, Pirates, Red Sox, Reds, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees)

Which American League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? Which National League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? The answer is here, if you'd like to look it up: https://www.mlb.com/news/every-mlb-team-s-retired-numbers-c300753386

Just an odd aside...there were five original Hall of Fame members; Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner. Only one has not had their jersey retired by their team. Which one?

Like some teams, I don’t think the Twins acknowledge the greats from the club prior to its relocation (the A’s are in that group).  Therefore, I would guess Walter Johnson.

Note:  Like Christy Mathewson, I don’t believe Johnson ever had a number on his jersey.  Of course, that didn’t stop SF from honoring Mathewson with a retirement disk.

You're right, it was Walter Johnson. And technically speaking, jersey numbers were introduced in 1929. Johnson wore #28 in 1931 and #25 in 1932. 

As for the answer to the "fewest" question...the A's have retired the fewest jersey numbers of all the original clubs, just five (Reggie Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Dennis Eckersley, Catfish Hunter, and Rollie Fingers. Nothing for Lefty Grove, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins or Eddie Plank. Cubs and Orioles have retired 6.

Yankees, by far, have retired the most numbers, 22.  Cardinals the most in the NL with 15. Giants have 13.

Most clubs don't venerate their pre-jersey number stars. According to the article, the only clubs that do are the Cardinals (Hornsby), Giants (Mathewson, McGraw), and Phillies (Grover Cleveland Alexander, Chuck Klein)


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - BostonCard - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 07:52 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(04-30-2024, 06:03 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Not Canseco, McGuire, or Bonds.

Like Gary Carter, this player had a brief stint with the Giants but is most known for his career on another team.  He's a five-time all-star, two-time world champion, won two silver sluggers and was the AL RBI leader once (not in 1994).

BC

Joe Carter.
Well done!  Nice work as well by Terry to narrow it down a bit, under the assumption he won both WS with the same team (which he did).

Was tempted to misdirect by saying he was a Hall of Famer, but that would have been mean since he's in the Canadian HoF, not the one in Canton.  As a big Jays fan growing up, Carter was a big hero.  Of course, his Game 6 walk-off home run to win the 1993 world series is iconic:

1993 WS Game 6: Joe Carter wins Series with homer - YouTube

Who was the only other player to end a World Series with a home run?

Less known about Joe Carter is that he also ended the 1992 World Series by taking a throw from reliever Mike Timlin on a bunt, which was the first time the World Series ended on a bunt.  Who was the Atlanta Brave whose failed bunt attempt ended the WS? 

BC


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - BobK - 04-30-2024

Bill Mazorski ended thevES with HR


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 04-30-2024

Which franchise has been through the most formal name changes? Total was 12.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Giants - 04-30-2024

Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714533228' Wrote:  1714533228[/url]']
Giants dateline='[url=tel:1714527822' Wrote:  1714527822[/url]']
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714524341' Wrote:  1714524341[/url]']
Watched the Giants vs. Red Sox tonight. I noticed that the Red Sox had retired a lot of numbers (10). I looked it up, it was about average.

There are 16 original teams in MLB dating from the turn of the last century (Athletics, Braves, Cardinals, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Indians/Guardians, Orioles, Phillies, Pirates, Red Sox, Reds, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees)

Which American League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? Which National League team has retired the most and fewest numbers? The answer is here, if you'd like to look it up: https://www.mlb.com/news/every-mlb-team-s-retired-numbers-c300753386

Just an odd aside...there were five original Hall of Fame members; Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner. Only one has not had their jersey retired by their team. Which one?

Like some teams, I don’t think the Twins acknowledge the greats from the club prior to its relocation (the A’s are in that group).  Therefore, I would guess Walter Johnson.

Note:  Like Christy Mathewson, I don’t believe Johnson ever had a number on his jersey.  Of course, that didn’t stop SF from honoring Mathewson with a retirement disk.

You're right, it was Walter Johnson. And technically speaking, jersey numbers were introduced in 1929. Johnson wore #28 in 1931 and #25 in 1932. 

As for the answer to the "fewest" question...the A's have retired the fewest jersey numbers of all the original clubs, just five (Reggie Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Dennis Eckersley, Catfish Hunter, and Rollie Fingers. Nothing for Lefty Grove, Jimmie Foxx, Eddie Collins or Eddie Plank. Cubs and Orioles have retired 6.

Yankees, by far, have retired the most numbers, 22.  Cardinals the most in the NL with 15. Giants have 13.

Most clubs don't venerate their pre-jersey number stars. According to the article, the only clubs that do are the Cardinals (Hornsby), Giants (Mathewson, McGraw), and Phillies (Grover Cleveland Alexander, Chuck Klein)

Yep.  Johnson never wore a number as a player.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Leftcoast - 04-30-2024

I believe Ty Cobb also never had a number to retire.  Is he honored with a named disk as the Giants honor Mathewson?


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Giants - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 09:44 PM)Leftcoast Wrote:  I believe Ty Cobb also never had a number to retire.  Is he honored with a named disk as the Giants honor Mathewson?

You are correct.  Cobb did not wear a jersey with a number.  The Tigers honored him by including him along with the numbers of other retired players.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - BostonCard - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 08:46 PM)BobK Wrote:  Bill Mazorski ended thevES with HR

Correct.

BC


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - qwerty49 - 04-30-2024

(04-30-2024, 09:21 PM)Mick Wrote:  Which franchise has been through the most formal name changes? Total was 12.

12! Yikes! There have to be some 19th century names on that list.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Giants - 05-01-2024

(04-30-2024, 09:21 PM)Mick Wrote:  Which franchise has been through the most formal name changes? Total was 12.

Dodgers?


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - terry - 05-01-2024

(04-30-2024, 08:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Less known about Joe Carter is that he also ended the 1992 World Series by taking a throw from reliever Mike Timlin on a bunt, which was the first time the World Series ended on a bunt.  Who was the Atlanta Brave whose failed bunt attempt ended the WS? 

BC

It must have been someone who was fast enough to think he could beat out a bunt . . . Otis Nixon or Lonnie Smith?


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Mick - 05-01-2024

(05-01-2024, 05:18 AM)Giants Wrote:  
(04-30-2024, 09:21 PM)Mick Wrote:  Which franchise has been through the most formal name changes? Total was 12.

Dodgers?

Correct! Here's the history:

Los Angeles Dodgers (1958–present)
Brooklyn Dodgers (1932–1957)
Brooklyn Robins (1914–1931)
Brooklyn Dodgers (1913)
Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers (1911–1912)
Brooklyn Superbas (1899–1910)
Brooklyn Bridegrooms (1896–1898)
Brooklyn Grooms (1891–1895)
Brooklyn Bridegrooms (1888–1890)
Brooklyn Grays (1885–1887)
Brooklyn Atlantics (1884)
Brooklyn Grays (1883)

(04-30-2024, 09:44 PM)Leftcoast Wrote:  I believe Ty Cobb also never had a number to retire.  Is he honored with a named disk as the Giants honor Mathewson?

Unclear. The original article didn't list Tigers players as being so honored, while they listed other MLB teams (e.g., Giants) as being so honored:

Every MLB team's retired numbers

However, this article, linked from the above article, claims that the Tigers honor pre-jersey number players like Cobb, Harry Heilmann, Sam Crawford, Mickey Cochrane, Hughie Jennings and Heinie Manush. I've been to Comerica ballpark and I've seen various exhibits listing their exploits, but I don't recall seeing it on the wall like the other players...but I didn't pay attention, tbh.


RE: Sports trivia thread 2024 - Giants - 05-01-2024

Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714578241' Wrote:  1714578241[/url]']
Giants dateline='[url=tel:1714565898' Wrote:  1714565898[/url]']
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1714537293' Wrote:  1714537293[/url]']
Which franchise has been through the most formal name changes? Total was 12.

Dodgers?

Correct! Here's the history:

Los Angeles Dodgers (1958–present)
Brooklyn Dodgers (1932–1957)
Brooklyn Robins (1914–1931)
Brooklyn Dodgers (1913)
Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers (1911–1912)
Brooklyn Superbas (1899–1910)
Brooklyn Bridegrooms (1896–1898)
Brooklyn Grooms (1891–1895)
Brooklyn Bridegrooms (1888–1890)
Brooklyn Grays (1885–1887)
Brooklyn Atlantics (1884)
Brooklyn Grays (1883)

Leftcoast dateline='[url=tel:1714538692' Wrote:  1714538692[/url]']
I believe Ty Cobb also never had a number to retire.  Is he honored with a named disk as the Giants honor Mathewson?

Unclear. The original article didn't list Tigers players as being so honored, while they listed other MLB teams (e.g., Giants) as being so honored:

Every MLB team's retired numbers

However, this article, linked from the above article, claims that the Tigers honor pre-jersey number players like Cobb, Harry Heilmann, Sam Crawford, Mickey Cochrane, Hughie Jennings and Heinie Manush. I've been to Comerica ballpark and I've seen various exhibits listing their exploits, but I don't recall seeing it on the wall like the other players...but I didn't pay attention, tbh.

I found a photo.  Cobb’s name is on the CF wall among all of the numbered retired Tiger greats between Horton (23) and Greenberg (5).  

Speaking of nicknames, among the four major North America sports, which current team has had the same nickname for the longest consecutive period of time?