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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - CompSci87 - 09-28-2022

(09-28-2022, 11:26 AM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 08:29 AM)81alum Wrote:  Jump absolutely has earned a starting spot.  Much of our success will depend on how good she can be on defense.  I am reminded a lot of Karlie's last year.  Tara said at the time that Karlie's BBIQ was so high that she became a good defender through anticipation and calculating the angles even though she was not as quick as a classic shut-down defender.  That has to be Jump's model to follow.

I also think that it is unlikely that we will be a great defensive team this year--the hope is we will at least be solid (especially inside and with blocks), but we have the potential to be a superb offensive team.  We may have to win more games simply by outscoring people, giving this year's team a different look than Stanford teams in the past.

Your second (excellent) paragraph reflects on the core issue for this 2022-2023 team.  I tend to subscribe to the theory that defense wins championships and our 2020-2021 championship team led by Kiana and Anna played and defended at the tip of the spear- the perimeter. They were disrupters. I agree that we have the potential to be a superb offensive team, but I'm not sure trying just to outscore the opponent takes us all the way.

There is the potential for us to become defensively sound should Jzaniya, Indya and/or Talana (who all seem to have quickness), become good defenders and play quality minutes.  And then there is Emma, our best perimeter and wing defender.  If her skills on offense have improved (even moderately), then Tara has the luxury of giving her significant minutes and Emma may become part of that defensive spear especially in crunch time.  We all recall when Tara put Emma in, not just during garbage time, but in situations where we needed an athletic 'stopper' against the opponents' top guards and she held her own.

What a fascinating season we may have here.

Just to nitpick, she's Agnes Emma-Nnopu, so calling her "Emma" is a bit odd.

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Sakibomb25 - Sakibomb25 - 09-28-2022

Jump’s role also reminds me of Krista Rappahahn. Amazing three-point shooter, ok one defense… but it was her ability to spread the floor that really made her valuable as a senior. I see Jump playing a similar role, where as a long as she isn’t a liability too much on defense, her offense is what will keep her on the floor.

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RE: Sakibomb25 - 81alum - 09-29-2022

(09-28-2022, 09:34 PM)Sakibomb25 Wrote:  Jump’s role also reminds me of Krista Rappahahn. Amazing three-point shooter, ok one defense… but it was her ability to spread the floor that really made her valuable as a senior. I see Jump playing a similar role, where as a long as she isn’t a liability too much on defense, her offense is what will keep her on the floor.

Yes, I agree.   Jump will probably start every game.  If the match up in any particular game is such that Jump is victimized by her mark, then Emma-Nnopu might come in for her as a defensive specialist.  Will Jump improve her defense as much as Emma-Nnopu improves her offense?  We will have to wait and see.  Wouldn't it be great if both of them excelled and became equal in both dimensions!

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - Card10Fan - 10-08-2022

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRuUSq3a/

I found this to be hilarious; best impressions of a coach. Lots were in reference to Coach Anderson. Haley’s knee was also iced up in the video. hopefully she’s not having trouble.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - stopandpop - 10-08-2022

With about 3 weeks to go until tip-off, all of us are excited about the 2022-2023 season which comes from having another loaded team and its quest for another championship run as well as some mystery about the starting lineup and all the combinations we have spoken about.

We have 2 amazing All-Americans who will most certainly play at the next level.  I can (as I'm sure you can), go on and on about Haley.  All I hope for is that she starts and plays the season injury-free.

Tara often said last season "You have not seen the best of Cam" and with her move to power forward, we might be witness to something very special this season.  Having said that, I'm hoping this past summer Cam has worked on her defensive footwork and limiting unnecessary aggressiveness which contributed to fouling and spending significant time not in the game and where Tara really had to manage her playing time.

In 2021-2022, I thought Cam played much better post defense as the season went on.  Cam got in trouble when (because of her aggressiveness), she would defend much smaller (non-post) players on the perimeter and picked up a lot of silly fouls.  

I'm sure the Cardinal brain trust has stressed to Cam how critical she is to the overall success of the team as is Haley and that she has improved that part of her game.  Wouldn't it be exciting to watch Cam consistently play 25+ minutes and demolish her defenders on offense and then crush them on defense?  I'm staying positive.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - martyup - 10-08-2022

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - stopandpop - 10-10-2022

Can anyone recall when the PAC-12 was this late in releasing the conference schedule?  The pairings have already been posted so what the heck is going on?

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - BobK - 10-10-2022

Tv dates and times going on :)

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - Card10Fan - 10-10-2022

(10-10-2022, 03:13 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  Can anyone recall when the PAC-12 was this late in releasing the conference schedule?  The pairings have already been posted so what the heck is going on?

Such an annoyance. Every other major conference already has released their schedules. Pac12 men's basketball is out so no reason women's schedule should be taking this long. We best be getting LOTS of ESPN games if it's taking this long to hash out the tv stuff.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - M T - 10-10-2022

(10-10-2022, 03:31 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:  

(10-10-2022, 03:13 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  Can anyone recall when the PAC-12 was this late in releasing the conference schedule?  The pairings have already been posted so what the heck is going on?

Such an annoyance. Every other major conference already has released their schedules. Pac12 men's basketball is out so no reason women's schedule should be taking this long.

Let's blame in on the transfer (non) rule.  Maybe they're trying to figure out which teams will be interesting.

(During the most recent WVB telecast, the announcer kept saying that Hambly didn't have to worry about the transfer rule because there were only 20 transfers (in?) across the whole school.  That's not why a coach has to worry about transfers...)

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - TonyLima - 10-11-2022

Jones sign with Nike. 

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - Card10Fan - 10-11-2022

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stanfordwbb/status/1579931880119336960?s=46&t=LQhbCkcf0ZmSJgcBcdex3A[/tweet]

Remainder of schedule with dates and tv times announced. Notable; 
South Carolina game on ABC along with Tennessee
ESPN games at Arizona and home vs UCLA

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - 81alum - 10-11-2022

(10-11-2022, 02:27 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/stanfordwbb/status/1579931880119336960?s=46&t=LQhbCkcf0ZmSJgcBcdex3A

Remainder of schedule with dates and tv times announced. Notable; 
South Carolina game on ABC along with Tennessee
ESPN games at Arizona and home vs UCLA

Wow, only 2 of our last 8 games are at home.  The home schedule in February is thin. 

Also interesting that the rivalry games have been split up.  We won't play Cal back to back.

Unlike other years, it is not easy to predict which road trips will be our most challenging, since it is hard to know (with the myriad transfers) which other Pac 12 teams will be most formidable.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - stopandpop - 10-11-2022

(10-11-2022, 04:31 PM)81alum Wrote:  

(10-11-2022, 02:27 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/stanfordwbb/status/1579931880119336960?s=46&t=LQhbCkcf0ZmSJgcBcdex3A

Remainder of schedule with dates and tv times announced. Notable; 
South Carolina game on ABC along with Tennessee
ESPN games at Arizona and home vs UCLA

Wow, only 2 of our last 8 games are at home.  The home schedule in February is thin. 

Also interesting that the rivalry games have been split up.  We won't play Cal back to back.

Unlike other years, it is not easy to predict which road trips will be our most challenging, since it is hard to know (with the myriad transfers) which other Pac 12 teams will be most formidable.

I actually like our schedule with 7 of our first 10 games at home.  With the possible exception of the January 13th. game @ UCLA, we play four of our most likely challengers in the friendly confines of Maples Pavilion.  It's a heck of a lot easier to assess the play and strengths and new talents of Arizona, Utah, Colorado and Oregon, make adjustments and play to our strengths at home which has been a comfort zone for the team and where the likelihood of a W is high.  Once we play them here (and win), we will be much better prepared to face them on the road and we don't even have to travel to Eugene.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - stopandpop - 10-12-2022

(09-28-2022, 06:53 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 11:26 AM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 08:29 AM)81alum Wrote:  Jump absolutely has earned a starting spot.  Much of our success will depend on how good she can be on defense.  I am reminded a lot of Karlie's last year.  Tara said at the time that Karlie's BBIQ was so high that she became a good defender through anticipation and calculating the angles even though she was not as quick as a classic shut-down defender.  That has to be Jump's model to follow.

I also think that it is unlikely that we will be a great defensive team this year--the hope is we will at least be solid (especially inside and with blocks), but we have the potential to be a superb offensive team.  We may have to win more games simply by outscoring people, giving this year's team a different look than Stanford teams in the past.

Your second (excellent) paragraph reflects on the core issue for this 2022-2023 team.  I tend to subscribe to the theory that defense wins championships and our 2020-2021 championship team led by Kiana and Anna played and defended at the tip of the spear- the perimeter. They were disrupters. I agree that we have the potential to be a superb offensive team, but I'm not sure trying just to outscore the opponent takes us all the way.

There is the potential for us to become defensively sound should Jzaniya, Indya and/or Talana (who all seem to have quickness), become good defenders and play quality minutes.  And then there is Emma, our best perimeter and wing defender.  If her skills on offense have improved (even moderately), then Tara has the luxury of giving her significant minutes and Emma may become part of that defensive spear especially in crunch time.  We all recall when Tara put Emma in, not just during garbage time, but in situations where we needed an athletic 'stopper' against the opponents' top guards and she held her own.

What a fascinating season we may have here.

Just to nitpick, she's Agnes Emma-Nnopu, so calling her "Emma" is a bit odd.

Just saw this.  Thank you for pointing out my error.  My apologies.  But no comment about my post?

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - WBB fan - 10-13-2022

Current issue of Sports Illustrated is just out, with NBA and NCAA basketball previews. For women, the feature article is about Stanford and the "love each other" etc., positive vibes, efforts. Good article, quite lengthy. Here's a link to the digital version.

digital.emagazines.com/sports_illustrated/20221013/index.html?t=51b0a392-5a8e-4227-811d-eece3e3e4eda&utm_campaign=cds_si_print

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - chimera - 10-13-2022

Paywalled for me, oh well.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - WBB fan - 10-13-2022

(10-13-2022, 03:44 PM)chimera Wrote:  Paywalled for me, oh well.

Sorry. I tested, using the link from my post, and it went through for me, but maybe that's because I have a subscription. At any rate, if you can find a copy of the print edition, the article is worth reading.  Several pages long with lot of text as well as photos, focused mostly on Cam and Haley, but also Tara and rest of the team, much about how they reacted emotionally to the loss to U Conn in the final four in April and had the strength to still feel good about themselves and their season.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - qwerty49 - 10-13-2022

(10-12-2022, 02:15 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 06:53 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 11:26 AM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 08:29 AM)81alum Wrote:  Jump absolutely has earned a starting spot.  Much of our success will depend on how good she can be on defense.  I am reminded a lot of Karlie's last year.  Tara said at the time that Karlie's BBIQ was so high that she became a good defender through anticipation and calculating the angles even though she was not as quick as a classic shut-down defender.  That has to be Jump's model to follow.

I also think that it is unlikely that we will be a great defensive team this year--the hope is we will at least be solid (especially inside and with blocks), but we have the potential to be a superb offensive team.  We may have to win more games simply by outscoring people, giving this year's team a different look than Stanford teams in the past.

Your second (excellent) paragraph reflects on the core issue for this 2022-2023 team.  I tend to subscribe to the theory that defense wins championships and our 2020-2021 championship team led by Kiana and Anna played and defended at the tip of the spear- the perimeter. They were disrupters. I agree that we have the potential to be a superb offensive team, but I'm not sure trying just to outscore the opponent takes us all the way.

There is the potential for us to become defensively sound should Jzaniya, Indya and/or Talana (who all seem to have quickness), become good defenders and play quality minutes.  And then there is Emma, our best perimeter and wing defender.  If her skills on offense have improved (even moderately), then Tara has the luxury of giving her significant minutes and Emma may become part of that defensive spear especially in crunch time.  We all recall when Tara put Emma in, not just during garbage time, but in situations where we needed an athletic 'stopper' against the opponents' top guards and she held her own.

What a fascinating season we may have here.

Just to nitpick, she's Agnes Emma-Nnopu, so calling her "Emma" is a bit odd.

Just saw this.  Thank you for pointing out my error.  My apologies.  But no comment about my post?

One thing for sure: we are going to get pressed forever and a day, until our PG play (whether Haley or someone else) proves it can handle it. Then we can start the conversation on offense.

Any coach watching film of Haley’s relatively high dribble is going to try to disrupt that. Here’s hoping for a Nicole Powell flashback.

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RE: WBB 2022-2023 season - stopandpop - 10-13-2022

(10-13-2022, 05:17 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  

(10-12-2022, 02:15 PM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 06:53 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 11:26 AM)stopandpop Wrote:  

(09-28-2022, 08:29 AM)81alum Wrote:  Jump absolutely has earned a starting spot.  Much of our success will depend on how good she can be on defense.  I am reminded a lot of Karlie's last year.  Tara said at the time that Karlie's BBIQ was so high that she became a good defender through anticipation and calculating the angles even though she was not as quick as a classic shut-down defender.  That has to be Jump's model to follow.

I also think that it is unlikely that we will be a great defensive team this year--the hope is we will at least be solid (especially inside and with blocks), but we have the potential to be a superb offensive team.  We may have to win more games simply by outscoring people, giving this year's team a different look than Stanford teams in the past.

Your second (excellent) paragraph reflects on the core issue for this 2022-2023 team.  I tend to subscribe to the theory that defense wins championships and our 2020-2021 championship team led by Kiana and Anna played and defended at the tip of the spear- the perimeter. They were disrupters. I agree that we have the potential to be a superb offensive team, but I'm not sure trying just to outscore the opponent takes us all the way.

There is the potential for us to become defensively sound should Jzaniya, Indya and/or Talana (who all seem to have quickness), become good defenders and play quality minutes.  And then there is Emma, our best perimeter and wing defender.  If her skills on offense have improved (even moderately), then Tara has the luxury of giving her significant minutes and Emma may become part of that defensive spear especially in crunch time.  We all recall when Tara put Emma in, not just during garbage time, but in situations where we needed an athletic 'stopper' against the opponents' top guards and she held her own.

What a fascinating season we may have here.

Just to nitpick, she's Agnes Emma-Nnopu, so calling her "Emma" is a bit odd.

Just saw this.  Thank you for pointing out my error.  My apologies.  But no comment about my post?

One thing for sure: we are going to get pressed forever and a day, until our PG play (whether Haley or someone else) proves it can handle it. Then we can start the conversation on offense.





Any coach watching film of Haley’s relatively high dribble is going to try to disrupt that. Here’s hoping for a Nicole Powell flashback.

Hoping that one of the freshmen or Harriel (though I think of her more as a #2 guard) can become that PG to effectively handle what will be continued pressing, but until then I'd like to see help for Haley and have a passing outlet for her near mid-court (Brink) who can handle the ball well and get it back to Haley with hopefully plenty of time to set up the offense.  Watching the team last season scrambling at times to move the ball over mid-court and valuable time lost I'm sure made all of us anxious, but I'm confident Tara and staff already have a Plan A, a Plan B, and maybe more to minimize the problem.

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