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RE: Women’s soccer 2025 - ca245 - 11-09-2025
The flip side of having the OB’s advance the ball is, if they lose possession, there’s a big hole behind them that a good team can exploit. And, as you said, our OB’s are not the fastest, so their recovery is slower.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 - BostonCard - 11-09-2025
The other way to look at it is that ND is probably the second best team in the country (and was the top team for much of the year). I like it much better when we talk about Stanford's relative weaknesses against top-10 teams than, for example, the football team, which struggled against one of the worst teams in the country. Even the volleyball team will probably be an underdog against #3 Pitt on Friday.
Winning a national title will be hard, and I think it is more likely than not that Stanford will fall short at some point along the way. But I think we are still the favorites. Not a bad spot to be in going into the tournament, warts and all.
BC
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 - Hieronymus - 11-09-2025
(11-09-2025, 02:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The other way to look at it is that ND is probably the second best team in the country (and was the top team for much of the year). I like it much better when we talk about Stanford's relative weaknesses against top-10 teams than, for example, the football team, which struggled against one of the worst teams in the country. Even the volleyball team will probably be an underdog against #3 Pitt on Friday.Definitely take this as deep analysis of Stanford against 2 of the top 4 other teams in the country. The first half today was an incredibly high level of play for both teams.
Winning a national title will be hard, and I think it is more likely than not that Stanford will fall short at some point along the way. But I think we are still the favorites. Not a bad spot to be in going into the tournament, warts and all.
BC
The women are clearly a contender, but definitely not an overwhelming favorite. They will have to be able to control play better against faster opponents to win the last 2 games in the tournament, and not have a bad finishing day in the rd 16/rd 8 games. It would also be nice to not have an ACC team in the r16/r8 games. I will be very unsurprised if it’s an all ACC college cup again this year.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - ca245 - 11-10-2025
Bracket is out. Our first round opponent is Cal Poly. There is a potential 3rd round match-up with UCLA. The four No. 1 seeds are us, Notre Dame, Virginia, and Vanderbilt.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Spiny_Norman - 11-10-2025
(11-10-2025, 02:32 PM)ca245 Wrote: Bracket is out. Our first round opponent is Cal Poly. There is a potential 3rd round match-up with UCLA. The four No. 1 seeds are us, Notre Dame, Virginia, and Vanderbilt.
The bracket - https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/soccer-women/d1/2025
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - CTcard - 11-10-2025
A few bracket notes.
They say the top 32 seeds are seeded, though I can find nothing that specifies the rankings amongst the 1 seeds (or 2 seeds, etc.). Not sure if the rest of the matchups are purely by draw (though with a rule of no conference matchups before the third round), but the opponents for the four one seeds are:
Notre Dame vs UIC (8-7-6)
Vanderbilt vs Tenn Tech (7-6-8)
Virginia vs High Point (5-9-5)
Stanford vs Cal Poly (10-2-9)
It shouldn't matter, but one of those things is not like the other.
Stanford is 3-0 against the other #1 seeds. That has to be a rather rare occurrence pre-tournament.
Potential third round matchup with UCLA is both a great opportunity and kind of scary given UCLA gave Stanford its only loss this year.
Last year the ACC had all four teams in the college cup (final 4). That was a record for most teams from one conference.
This year the ACC has 3 of 4 top seeds, a record for one conference.
[Both records were claimed in random articles I read - cannot confirm.]
Michigan State, the #2 seed in our region, started fairly weakly with 3 goal losses to Notre Dame and Xavier early on. Finished stronger. Currently ranked #9 by United Soccer Coaches (third amongst the 2 seeds). Current #6 RPI (second among the 2 seeds).
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Hieronymus - 11-10-2025
(11-10-2025, 02:34 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(11-10-2025, 02:32 PM)ca245 Wrote: Bracket is out. Our first round opponent is Cal Poly. There is a potential 3rd round match-up with UCLA. The four No. 1 seeds are us, Notre Dame, Virginia, and Vanderbilt.
The bracket - https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/soccer-women/d1/2025
Gotta like that bracket. No ACC in the top 4 seeds. Michigan St, Colorado and UCLA could have been much worse and yes I know we lost to UCLA. But vs. ND having FSU as a 3 seed - I will take our bracket. My all ACC repeat is very unlikely though - the best ACC team in Vanderbilt’s side is 8 seed Clemson and then UNC.
It won't happen but I would love a chance to beat UWM 12-0. Long story.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Spiny_Norman - 11-10-2025
Game time vs. Cal Poly is set. Friday at 6 pm pacific at Kagan.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - BostonCard - 11-10-2025
(11-10-2025, 06:58 PM)CTcard Wrote: Last year the ACC had all four teams in the college cup (final 4). That was a record for most teams from one conference.
Since there are only four teams in the college cup, any conference that gets four teams to the college cup would have to have or be tied for the record, at least until they expand the definition of the “college cup” to 12.
BC
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - oldalum - 11-10-2025
(11-10-2025, 06:58 PM)CTcard Wrote: Stanford is 3-0 against the other #1 seeds. That has to be a rather rare occurrence pre-tournament.We're undefeated against the other 1-seeds but technically 2-0-1: our match vs. Notre Dame was officially a draw, which is fair because I would not say we overall looked better than them before penalties. But still impressive; I'd bet we're the only team with anything close to that record against #1 seeds.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - CompSci87 - 11-11-2025
(11-10-2025, 07:01 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: .It won't happen but I would love a chance to beat UWM 12-0. Long story.
University of Western Michigan or University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee?
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Jamesy - 11-11-2025
(11-10-2025, 11:44 PM)oldalum Wrote:(11-10-2025, 06:58 PM)CTcard Wrote: Stanford is 3-0 against the other #1 seeds. That has to be a rather rare occurrence pre-tournament.We're undefeated against the other 1-seeds but technically 2-0-1: our match vs. Notre Dame was officially a draw, which is fair because I would not say we overall looked better than them before penalties. But still impressive; I'd bet we're the only team with anything close to that record against #1 seeds.
That ND match being officially a draw is probably why we're not the #1 overall seed. Ridiculous in my opinion.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Hieronymus - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 02:38 AM)CompSci87 Wrote:(11-10-2025, 07:01 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: .It won't happen but I would love a chance to beat UWM 12-0. Long story.
University of Western Michigan or University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee?
Milwaukee - in our bracket but start they out against 2 seed Michigan St. UWM beats bad teams but generally gets crushed rd 1 in the tournament; so basically no chance we see them in the quarterfinals.
(11-11-2025, 11:30 AM)Jamesy Wrote:(11-10-2025, 11:44 PM)oldalum Wrote:(11-10-2025, 06:58 PM)CTcard Wrote: Stanford is 3-0 against the other #1 seeds. That has to be a rather rare occurrence pre-tournament.We're undefeated against the other 1-seeds but technically 2-0-1: our match vs. Notre Dame was officially a draw, which is fair because I would not say we overall looked better than them before penalties. But still impressive; I'd bet we're the only team with anything close to that record against #1 seeds.
That ND match being officially a draw is probably why we're not the #1 overall seed. Ridiculous in my opinion.
Again, I will take our 3 seed vs. FSU for ND any day.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Jamesy - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 03:33 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:(11-11-2025, 02:38 AM)CompSci87 Wrote:(11-10-2025, 07:01 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: .It won't happen but I would love a chance to beat UWM 12-0. Long story.
University of Western Michigan or University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee?
Milwaukee - in our bracket but start they out against 2 seed Michigan St. UWM beats bad teams but generally gets crushed rd 1 in the tournament; so basically no chance we see them in the quarterfinals.
(11-11-2025, 11:30 AM)Jamesy Wrote:(11-10-2025, 11:44 PM)oldalum Wrote:(11-10-2025, 06:58 PM)CTcard Wrote: Stanford is 3-0 against the other #1 seeds. That has to be a rather rare occurrence pre-tournament.We're undefeated against the other 1-seeds but technically 2-0-1: our match vs. Notre Dame was officially a draw, which is fair because I would not say we overall looked better than them before penalties. But still impressive; I'd bet we're the only team with anything close to that record against #1 seeds.
That ND match being officially a draw is probably why we're not the #1 overall seed. Ridiculous in my opinion.
Again, I will take our 3 seed vs. FSU for ND any day.
Yes, we got a pretty favorable draw all things considered. Only minor gripes are we have a much stronger 1st round opponent than any of the other 1 seeds due to NCAA wanting to minimize travel, and we have BYU in our bracket, which mucks up the usual Thurs/Sun schedule.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - CTcard - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 11:30 AM)Jamesy Wrote: That ND match being officially a draw is probably why we're not the #1 overall seed. Ridiculous in my opinion.
For reasons I cannot quite put my finger on, I have assumed that Notre Dame is the overall #1 seed.
However, I cannot find anything published on the internet that specifies overall seeding.
Have you seen something specific to that effect?
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - triangle2 - 11-11-2025
Besides Stanford, I am pulling for UW in the tournament for the obvious, heartbreaking reason.
Stanford and UW could in theory meet in the semifinals.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Hieronymus - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 06:05 PM)triangle2 Wrote: Besides Stanford, I am pulling for UW in the tournament for the obvious, heartbreaking reason.
Stanford and UW could in theory meet in the semifinals.
Can’t really root against UWash this year, agreed. Except against us.
I hadn’t checked, but Milwaukee already played Michigan St this year - and lost 9-0. Not a typo. My 12-0 might have been too low.
And I am not sure there actually is a true top #1 seed/overall #1 seed and that geography isn’t a bigger part. ND I believe is still the top RPI but Stanford is #1 in the coaches poll, TDS’s poll and Massey, and looking just at RPI it isn’t that clear. We have 6, 8 and 22 in our bracket. ND has 12, 10 and 23 in theirs - and yes that order is correct; FSU is rated higher than the 2 seed Georgetown. And I still like ours better.
Washington btw is 27. Side thought is there are some really weird choices with the 4 seeds based on RPI.
Massey as usual I think is more sensible. There we have in order 12, 10 and 14 which lines up with how I feel about our bracket - good teams but no real contenders. The rest of our seeds are BYU 26, Xavier 22, WF 27, annd Alabama 33. Cal Poly is 91. There are also no UNC-type deep sleepers - see below. So by Massey, we have far and away the worst next best team in our bracket and no obvious spoilers. Again sounds about right.
Other Massey stuff:
- UW is 13 not 27 and the other UW (Wisconsin) is 16 not 23. Suddenly with UCLA at 14, the 4 seeds look reasonable.
- Duke is 3 and FSU is 6 and those are the two I didn’t want in our quarter bracket as a 2 or 3 seed.
- The hilarious sleeper is UNC is 8 in Massey and unseeded in the actual bracket. Maybe we can get an all ACC final. And if I am Tennessee, I am really, really pissed off with my opening 3 seed game.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - CompSci87 - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 04:30 PM)Jamesy Wrote:(11-11-2025, 03:33 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:(11-11-2025, 02:38 AM)CompSci87 Wrote: [quote="Hieronymus" pid='440268' dateline='1762826467'].It won't happen but I would love a chance to beat UWM 12-0. Long story.
University of Western Michigan or University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee?
Milwaukee - in our bracket but start they out against 2 seed Michigan St. UWM beats bad teams but generally gets crushed rd 1 in the tournament; so basically no chance we see them in the quarterfinals.
Thanks. I was curious because I'm from Milwaukee. Although I did my undergrad work at the "other" big school in town, Marquette, I did have friends who went to UWM. UWM was never known much for sports, so I'm a little surprised to see them even in this tournament.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - Jamesy - 11-11-2025
(11-11-2025, 05:57 PM)CTcard Wrote:(11-11-2025, 11:30 AM)Jamesy Wrote: That ND match being officially a draw is probably why we're not the #1 overall seed. Ridiculous in my opinion.
For reasons I cannot quite put my finger on, I have assumed that Notre Dame is the overall #1 seed.
However, I cannot find anything published on the internet that specifies overall seeding.
Have you seen something specific to that effect?
ND is in the top left of the bracket where the top overall seed goes and is paired with Vanderbilt who is the weakest of the 1 seeds.
RE: Women’s soccer 2025 -- ACC Champions! - rogpodge - 11-12-2025
https://x.com/G_Kuhn71/status/1988318023330259125