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Re: Class of 2015 - BostonCard - 12-27-2013

(12-27-2013, 06:44 AM)JPRI link Wrote:If we do recruit a QB in the class of 2015, I hope he will be comfortable with spending the majority of his career riding the pines. Unless he is the second coming of Andrew Luck, that is what will most likely happen.

A) We would all hope so, obviously.  The guy we missed out on in 2012 was Jameis Winston.  OK, so maybe his off-field issues would have made him a bad fit here, but no one can deny his talent.

B) There is a tendency to assume that unproven guys on the roster will all or mostly pan out.  Keep in mind that of the wealth of riches we had behind Luck, neither Nunes (4*/#19 QB on scout) nor Nottingham (4*/#14 QB) really panned out.  Now, I am hearing great things about Burns already, so there is good reason to be optimistic (bolstered by the fact that Lloyd is being moved to safety, so Lloyd may have seen the writing and the coaches probably feel fine), but I was hearing great things about Nottingham initially as well.

QB is simply too important a position, and because it is a singular position, it is not like you can really move a player from another position in there to shore up depth (as we did, for example, with DE when depth became a concern there), or safety, where we are moving, ironically, a QB.

The closest analogy I can find is running back.  Right now we have six running backs on the roster: Tyler Gaffney, Anthony Wilkerson, Ricky Seale, Remound Wright, Kelsey Young, Barry J Sanders.  Next year we have Christian McCaffrey coming in and Brandt-Smith (if he is being looked at as a RB) so we may still have six RB's on the roster.  Yes, RB is slightly different because you can get reps to multiple players in a way that is atypical for QB's excepting garbage time.  But still, you need to have more than three because, Miles Jack excepted, it is atypical to move a player into the position.

For me, I think five is the ideal number for QB's and RB's.  It lets you recruit an average of one a year assuming a redshirt season, but lets you skip a year in a bad year, and take two in a bumper crop.  You don't want fewer than four or more than six, generally.

BC


Re: Class of 2015 - AthleticsDynasty - 12-27-2013

(12-27-2013, 10:42 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:I don't understand this totemic significance of 6 in your mind. For a 2015 QB, this would be the returning depth chart:

Hogan/Burns/Chryst/Crower/2015.

That's five, not six. And, at any rate, my backseat driver suggestion to the coaches would be to bring in a 2015 QB and simply not invite Crower back for a fifth year.

If Lloyd sticks at safety and/or Crower doesn't comeback for a 5th year(I highly doubt this happens unless someone passes him on the depth chart)  then sure we can take a QB.


Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-02-2014

Some quick happy news. Arrington Farrar's been doing the junior recruiting camp circuit and has won some positive reviews. Georgia has a camp in September for their juniors and here's what their coach had to say about Farrar (he was co-best DB):

Quote:Co-Best, Woodward’s Arrington Farrar, 6-2, 200 (committed to Stanford): “He’s extremely intelligent. He has good size. He reminds me of (UGA safety) Tray Matthews in a lot of ways. He’s big, intelligent and takes charge like Tray. They kind of favor each other. They’re about the same size. Both of them are extremely intelligent and have natural leadership.”

Farrar's currently at the Under Armour combine for juniors, where he (apparently) looks like the "most explosive so far" at the camp and ran the shuttle in 4.2.

https://twitter.com/RecruitingESPN/status/418748251828129792
https://twitter.com/RecruitingESPN/status/418751602221387776



Re: Class of 2015 - admin - 01-03-2014

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Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-03-2014

Brandon Polk, fast small gentleman, supposedly has Stanford "way out in front" (not direct quote): http://247sports.com/Board/30/Live-updates-Army-National-Combine-24565721/2

(Timed at sub-4.5. From Alex Carter's high school. 247 consensus four-star wideout.)


Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-03-2014

Brandon Polk, fast small gentleman, supposedly has Stanford "way out in front" (not direct quote): http://247sports.com/Board/30/Live-updates-Army-National-Combine-24565721/2

(Timed at sub-4.5. From Alex Carter's high school. 247 consensus four-star wideout.)


Re: Class of 2015 - AthleticsDynasty - 01-04-2014

Who is recruiting Virginia now with Sanford gone?


Re: Class of 2015 - AthleticsDynasty - 01-04-2014

Who is recruiting Virginia now with Sanford gone?


Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-21-2014

DAVID SHAW TROLL GAME BACK STRONG:

"#Stanford making a run at one of the top 2015 QBs - Brady White." (https://twitter.com/adamgorney/status/425751326769696768)


Re: Class of 2015 - Spiny_Norman - 01-21-2014

(01-21-2014, 03:29 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:DAVID SHAW TROLL GAME BACK STRONG:

"#Stanford making a run at one of the top 2015 QBs - Brady White." (https://twitter.com/adamgorney/status/425751326769696768)

Brady White from Newhall Hart, the alma mater of former Stanford players Kyle Matter and Delano Howell.


Re: Class of 2015 - stupac2 - 01-21-2014

(01-21-2014, 03:29 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:DAVID SHAW TROLL GAME BACK STRONG:

"#Stanford making a run at one of the top 2015 QBs - Brady White." (https://twitter.com/adamgorney/status/425751326769696768)

Why is this "troll game"?


Re: Class of 2015 - theashwineffect - 01-21-2014

"Trolling" because a consensus top-2 2015 QB not named Brady White and Rival's current #2 player overall has effectively stated that he would commit if given an offer. We offered someone else who almost immediately committed to Alabama, didn't offer said #2 player, and then offered another player way farther down the perceived pecking order.


Re: Class of 2015 - DC - 01-21-2014

Anyone know why Shaw doesn't appear to be very interested in Rosen?


Re: Class of 2015 - BostonCard - 01-21-2014

Let's just say the staff felt that Rosen would not be a good fit for the program, for reasons that have nothing to do with his athletic ability.

BC


Re: Class of 2015 - PrinceLightfoot - 01-21-2014

(01-21-2014, 07:16 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Let's just say the staff felt that Rosen would not be a good fit for the program, for reasons that have nothing to do with his athletic ability.

BC

I hope everyone reads and understands what BC just shared. It really says it all without going into specifics.


Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-21-2014

To make it clear, I'm not up in arms about the decision not to offer Rosen. I would, however, really enjoy the freakout if Shaw et al. passed over Rosen twice.


Re: Class of 2015 - AthleticsDynasty - 01-23-2014

(01-21-2014, 07:10 PM)DC link Wrote:Anyone know why Shaw doesn't appear to be very interested in Rosen?

QB isn't a very big need in this class and the coaches saw him up close and obviously think there are better guys out there


Re: Class of 2015 - BostonCard - 01-23-2014

(01-23-2014, 04:14 PM)AthleticsDynasty link Wrote:[quote author=DC link=topic=7902.msg82356#msg82356 date=1390356603]
Anyone know why Shaw doesn't appear to be very interested in Rosen?

QB isn't a very big need in this class and the coaches saw him up close and obviously think there are better guys out there
[/quote]

It is a little more complicated than that.  Rosen is an obvious talent, and I don't think the staff disputes that.  They just aren't sure how good of a fit he would be with the team.  We'll see.

BC


Re: Class of 2015 - washingtonismoney - 01-25-2014

Seems Town's back on the market: https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/427155167377489920