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RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - magnus - 11-30-2022
Looks like Roman has been contacted.
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RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - Mick - 11-30-2022
(11-29-2022, 08:54 AM)French Rage Wrote: If we want someone who can work with a school with a high academic reputation, this current guy at Dartmouth has really done great things there.
In his first five seasons after he returned to Dartmouth from Stanford, Teevens went 9-43. Percentage-wise, he actually did worse his first five seasons at Dartmouth than he did at Stanford (10-23). And BTW? Teevens was improving at Stanford. He was 2-9 his first year, and only one of his losses was by a TD or less. Year two, he was 4-7 with, again, one loss by a TD or less. By year 3, he was again 4-7, but four of his losses were by a TD or less, including 3 point losses to #1 USC and #23 ASU.
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - dabigv13 - 11-30-2022
Remember that 2004 SC game well. JR Lemon's run to end the half was awesome. One of the few bright spots for students of the Teevens/Harris era even if it was a loss.
Probably just coincidence, but it seems '06ers, the first graduating class since the 30s to not beat Kal, are overrepresented here on The Cardboard. Perhaps some weird psychological thing....call it Teevens Syndrome.
RE: Troy Taylor - Mick - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 08:45 AM)Goose Wrote:(11-30-2022, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: If Troy Taylor can get over and won't be bothered by being "disowned" by Cal world, he would be my #1 choice. Taylor reminds me a little bit of guys like Urban Meyer and Brian Kelly, only rather than winning at multiple lower levels and always succeeding as they progressed, Taylor has high level assistant experience and was a successful OC, then the proven track record in FCS at Sac State, so you don't have to worry he can't handle the jump from FCS to Power 5.
Troy Taylor's time as an OC at Utah was anything but successful and his departure was not voluntary. You could blame it on a clash of ideas with the head coach, but that does not make it a success. He may well be a very good head coaching choice at Stanford but it won't be because of anything that happened at Utah, other than perhaps experience handling a "difficult" situation in a classy manner.
Whittingham went through eight OCs in 11 years. This article is illustrative:
What we know about the departure of Utah OC Troy Taylor - ESPN700 (espn700sports.com)
And he's had some success. Also illustrative:
Troy Taylor - Head Coach - Football Coaches - Sacramento State (hornetsports.com)
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - OutsiderFan - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 09:59 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-30-2022, 09:52 AM)lex24 Wrote: Ask Cal about Dykes. No, thanks.
Incorrect.
Ask DYKES about CAL.
He's a very good coach.
THIS x whatever number you want!
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - cardcrimson - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 09:59 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-30-2022, 09:52 AM)lex24 Wrote: Ask Cal about Dykes. No, thanks.
Incorrect.
Ask DYKES about CAL.
He's a very good coach.
Maybe so, but I wonder about his comportment. During the Baylor game, he was literally frothing at the mouth, screaming at a ref after a call went Baylor's way late in the game. The commentator mentioned that when Sonny sees the replay, he'll realize he was wrong. . . .
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - French Rage - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 02:32 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Remember that 2004 SC game well. JR Lemon's run to end the half was awesome. One of the few bright spots for students of the Teevens/Harris era even if it was a loss.
Probably just coincidence, but it seems '06ers, the first graduating class since the 30s to not beat Kal, are overrepresented here on The Cardboard. Perhaps some weird psychological thing....call it Teevens Syndrome.
That 2004 USC game was the first game for me and a number of other friends starting grad school at Stanford that year. So our time at Stanford started with the big high of that first half and then the lows of the next 2.95 seasons.
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - lex24 - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 04:35 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(11-30-2022, 09:59 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-30-2022, 09:52 AM)lex24 Wrote: Ask Cal about Dykes. No, thanks.
Incorrect.
Ask DYKES about CAL.
He's a very good coach.
Maybe so, but I wonder about his comportment. During the Baylor game, he was literally frothing at the mouth, screaming at a ref after a call went Baylor's way late in the game. The commentator mentioned that when Sonny sees the replay, he'll realize he was wrong. . . .
The side judge in PAC 12 games switches sides at half. At a BG when Dykes was at Cal, sometime in the third Q the side judge remarked to me about how it was nice to be on a sideline where he’s not constantly being chewed on. Dykes had been screaming at him the whole first half.
Defense was an afterthought to Dykes when he was at Cal. Going to TCU, where Patterson had been a defensive oriented coach, may have helped him some.
Stanford will not be interested in Dykes. Nor should they be.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - 82lsju - 11-30-2022
Quote:Stanford reportedly in contact with Ravens offensive coordinator Greg Roman for head coaching vacancy
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/football/stanford-reportedly-in-contact-with-ravens-offensive-coordinator-greg-roman-for-head-coaching-vacancy
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - lex24 - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 05:06 PM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:Stanford reportedly in contact with Ravens offensive coordinator Greg Roman for head coaching vacancy
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/football/stanford-reportedly-in-contact-with-ravens-offensive-coordinator-greg-roman-for-head-coaching-vacancy
2 Questions :
1. Since he left after 2010 has he ever been a serious HC candidate anywhere?
2. If the answer to no 1 is, as I believe it to be “no”. Why?
Also, I don’t think he can get Lamar Jackson through the portal….
No on Roman. In general, no on anyone that’s a long time NFL coordinator. Although here’s an out of the box idea - Brian Griese. Ex Michigan QBs have worked well for Stanford……
RE: Troy Taylor - Goose - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 02:49 PM)Mick Wrote:Indeed he has had success at Sacramento State. In fact, I do think he is a guy we should look at. What I was pushing against was the idea his time at Utah was a success. It was certainly not. It is also true that while Whittingham went through eight OCs, some of them left for better jobs and AFAIK even the guys he got rid of didn't have the job basically taken away from them after 4 games (as Taylor did).(11-30-2022, 08:45 AM)Goose Wrote:(11-30-2022, 04:58 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: If Troy Taylor can get over and won't be bothered by being "disowned" by Cal world, he would be my #1 choice. Taylor reminds me a little bit of guys like Urban Meyer and Brian Kelly, only rather than winning at multiple lower levels and always succeeding as they progressed, Taylor has high level assistant experience and was a successful OC, then the proven track record in FCS at Sac State, so you don't have to worry he can't handle the jump from FCS to Power 5.
Troy Taylor's time as an OC at Utah was anything but successful and his departure was not voluntary. You could blame it on a clash of ideas with the head coach, but that does not make it a success. He may well be a very good head coaching choice at Stanford but it won't be because of anything that happened at Utah, other than perhaps experience handling a "difficult" situation in a classy manner.
Whittingham went through eight OCs in 11 years. This article is illustrative:
What we know about the departure of Utah OC Troy Taylor - ESPN700 (espn700sports.com)
And he's had some success. Also illustrative:
Troy Taylor - Head Coach - Football Coaches - Sacramento State (hornetsports.com)
There are many that have stated it was a clash of ideas. Whittingham wanted a run first conservative offense and Taylor wanted a more wide open attack. Unsurprisingly, Taylor lost that argument. Doesn't mean he isn't a good coach. In fact, going to Sacramento State may just show he wanted his own program, which may be exactly what we need. If anything, I would be concerned that his contact with PAC-12 football was such a bad experience he might decide to stay where he is.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - lex24 - 11-30-2022
Trent Dilfer is off the list. Not that he was ever on. Hired as UABs HC. Had been coaching a High School team.
RE: Coaching Search: My proposed approach and wish list - 2006alum - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 02:32 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Remember that 2004 SC game well. JR Lemon's run to end the half was awesome. One of the few bright spots for students of the Teevens/Harris era even if it was a loss.
Probably just coincidence, but it seems '06ers, the first graduating class since the 30s to not beat Kal, are overrepresented here on The Cardboard. Perhaps some weird psychological thing....call it Teevens Syndrome.
Yes. And first class not to graduate in the football stadium in decades. And first class in ages not to have a Branner freshman class. (though these days it's back to upper class housing). Kinda cursed, weren't we?
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BobK - 12-01-2022
[tweet]https://twitter.com/toddhusak/status/1598015656955289601?s=46&t=94XvIC-kY8PlaxBrJ90egw[/tweet]
Interesting
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - terry - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 08:58 AM)BobK Wrote: https://twitter.com/toddhusak/status/1598015656955289601?s=46&t=94XvIC-kY8PlaxBrJ90egw
Interesting
I'm sure Mike Bloomgren will interview well. He's a personable guy. But his career coaching record is 16-38, conference record 12-25, with no winning seasons in his five years as Rice's head coach. To me, that's disqualifying.
Similarly, Derek Mason seems like a good guy. But his record at Vandy was 27-55, conference record 10-46, with no winning seasons in seven years. Again, I think that's disqualifying.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - Maple Leaf - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 08:58 AM)BobK Wrote: https://twitter.com/toddhusak/status/1598015656955289601?s=46&t=94XvIC-kY8PlaxBrJ90egw
Interesting
I wonder who on this list would take the job if offered, verses those would take the job on conditions that are unacceptable to the university and those who said no thank you.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BobK - 12-01-2022
Mason and Bloomgren's Head Coaching records reminds me of Denny Green at Northwestern.
Oh wait. :)
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - msqueri - 12-01-2022
Agree with you Terry. I don't think Troy Walters is a credible candidate either. Among others on that list, Hamilton would be bad and Mendenhall would be uninspiring. If the selection comes from the rest of the list I'll be pleased.
In my perfect world we back up the Brinks truck for Aranda. But I think it's much more likely we get Taylor and that would be exciting too.
(12-01-2022, 11:18 AM)BobK Wrote: Mason and Bloomgren's Head Coaching records reminds me of Denny Green at Northwestern.
Oh wait. :)
Always surprising to me that Stanford fans remember Denny Green as a winner at Stanford. 16-18 at Stanford. His first two years combined for the same number of wins as the last two years of Elway, and then he had one good year from which he immediately bolted AND left his successor (Walsh II) with, yes, a good roster for the immediate first year but a horrid pipeline/recruiting situation otherwise. Denny Green was not a particularly good coach at Stanford. But the vibes/swagger and 1991-1992 seasons were so good Green always gets remembered fondly. I am as big of a Willingham hater as anybody, but he was a better coach for Stanford than Green was.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - terry - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 11:18 AM)BobK Wrote: Mason and Bloomgren's Head Coaching records reminds me of Denny Green at Northwestern.
Oh wait. :)
Their records remind me of Buddy Teevens at Tulane.
RE: Football Coaching Search [merged thread] - BobK - 12-01-2022
Green’s final year a bowl game our 2nd since Walsh 1
(12-01-2022, 11:32 AM)terry Wrote:(12-01-2022, 11:18 AM)BobK Wrote: Mason and Bloomgren's Head Coaching records reminds me of Denny Green at Northwestern.
Oh wait. :)
Their records remind me of Buddy Teevens at Tulane.