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RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BobK - 10-11-2021

At Oregon my concern was the setting and or hitting right at a defensive player especially at the Libero who had the skills to receive well and she did.

Two tough games this week. Thankfully at home


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - ca245 - 10-11-2021

(10-11-2021, 07:47 AM)paloalto Wrote:  At this point Stanford has no "good wins" in conference.  Losing to Oregon on the road is understandable.  Losing to UCLA at home hurts.  At this point getting a top 16 seed in the tournament seems unlikely although Stanford often is favored by the selection committee based on past reputation.
I don't see more than four PAC-12 teams -- possibly only three -- receiving top-16 seeds. UO and UCLA are in the driver's seat at 5-1, while we are bunched with UW, WSU, and Utah at 4-2. We play the other three 4-2 teams twice, so we will have a chance to make our case.
If we don't get a seed, we might be the unseeded team no seed wants to have in their pod, since we have the firepower to compete with any team, despite our passing and digging limitations.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - johnbar - 10-11-2021

Stanford drops one spot in the poll, to #18.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Jamesy - 10-11-2021

Kalissa Greene is no longer listed on gostanford. ?


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BobK - 10-11-2021

Several players were not present at the Oregon game. Greene was one missing


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Softball Fan - 10-11-2021

(10-11-2021, 12:47 PM)Jamesy Wrote:  Kalissa Greene is no longer listed on gostanford. ?

Thanks for pointing out she's no longer on the roster.  It doesn't come as a surprise to me.  Next year Kelly Belardi, a very  good setter, joins the team.  The chances of Greene getting any playing time as a setter at Stanford is about nil.  I'm going by memory (never a good idea).  She might be the only healthy player who hasn't gotten on the court this season.  If she has, it would have been only for a couple of rallys.  

Sometimes WVB players realize that putting all the time into practice, lifting weights, traveling and never getting on the court is not what they want.  I don't know her story but it wouldn't surprise me if she decided to focus on academics.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/volleyball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-volleyball-rpi

Stanford went from #16 to #26 in the NCAA rpi rankings. 

At this point Stanford probably can't lose more than one match through the balance of the season to have any chance of getting back into the top 16 seeds.  Very likely the first round of the NCAA tournament Stanford starts on the road.

UCLA and Utah are the only two PAC-12 teams in the top twenty RPI.  Stanford doesn't play UCLA again.  I don't see any stepping stone back to being a top 16 seed.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BobK - 10-11-2021

The Stanford league leaders

https://twitter.com/stanfordwvb/status/1447725830273073154?s=21


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - joemontes - 10-12-2021

(10-11-2021, 01:22 PM)paloalto Wrote:  
(10-11-2021, 12:47 PM)Jamesy Wrote:  Kalissa Greene is no longer listed on gostanford. ?

Thanks for pointing out she's no longer on the roster.  It doesn't come as a surprise to me.  Next year Kelly Belardi, a very  good setter, joins the team.  The chances of Greene getting any playing time as a setter at Stanford is about nil.  I'm going by memory (never a good idea).  She might be the only healthy player who hasn't gotten on the court this season.  If she has, it would have been only for a couple of rallys.  

Sometimes WVB players realize that putting all the time into practice, lifting weights, traveling and never getting on the court is not what they want.  I don't know her story but it wouldn't surprise me if she decided to focus on academics.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/volleyball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-volleyball-rpi

Stanford went from #16 to #26 in the NCAA rpi rankings. 

At this point Stanford probably can't lose more than one match through the balance of the season to have any chance of getting back into the top 16 seeds.  Very likely the first round of the NCAA tournament Stanford starts on the road.

UCLA and Utah are the only two PAC-12 teams in the top twenty RPI.  Stanford doesn't play UCLA again.  I don't see any stepping stone back to being a top 16 seed.

It's funny, but I just happened to watch the youtube video of the 2004 national championship match where senior Oganna NNAMANI, considered by many as arguably the greatest Cardinal hitter of all time, led Stanford to their 6th national crown.  The announcers mentioned that the Cardinal struggled through the start of the 2nd half PAC 10 play. And my research tells me that

-  they lost to St Mary's twice and to Penn State to finish their relatively easy OOC slate (definitely much easier than the brutal OOC schedule played by the current Stanford team) at 11-3;
-  then lost to USC, Washington and Cal to sport a 7-3 PAC 10 record through the start of the 2nd half of PAC 10 play;  

Then, all of a sudden:

-  they swept through the last 8 matches of PAC 10 play;
-  had to play at Florida during the NCAA tournament preliminary rounds where they beat Jacksonville (1st round) and host Florida (2nd round); 
-  then played at Wisconsin during the NCAA regionals where they beat Texas (R16) and host Wisconsin (Elite 8) to reach the Final 4;
-  then beat Washington in the national semifinals before dominating Minnesota in the national champoinships.


Well, I thought, maybe the current Stanford team can duplicate that feat.  Wishful thinking but, of course, they don't have a superwoman like Oganna NNAMANI, although I feel that the combined trio of BAIRD, KIPP and FRANCIS can collectively provide the firepower that NNAMANI unleashed, and boy, did Oganna unleash thunderous KABOOMs which made my jaw drop often, hahaha!

And speaking of NNAMANI KABOOMs, I also watched another youtube video when this was in utter display toward the end of the 1st set of Stanford's 2001 national semifinal match vs. Nebraska when, with Nebraska owning 4 set points at 29-25, then-freshman NNAMANI unleashed three (3) KABOOMs as Stanford rattled off 6 straight points to win that 1st set in dramatic fashion. WOW!


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Softball Fan - 10-12-2021

Interesting comparison.   I expect Stanford to improve and any team can get hot at tournament time.  I feel Stanford's backrow floor defense would have to improve immensely to allow Kami to put the pin hitters consistently in a position of hitting against one blocker.

I want Stanford to win at least one of its two matches this weekend at home to show they are making progress. If they lose both matches the Cardinal will likely be facing a strong opponent in the second round of the tournament and it will only get harder from there.

On the topic of exceptional players, a few days ago I was reading about Ipar Kurt on a B1G volleyball message board.  There were a couple posters bent out of shape about the possibility of her coming to Stanford.

Kurt is going to an American high school in Turkey.  They require a year of English immersion followed by four years of general classes so Kurt will be one year older than the typical freshman.  Plus she will have played on the Turkish senior national team for three years.  This one guy said Kurt should not be eligible for any freshman awards at an American college.  Of course she will be.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - 76lsjumb - 10-12-2021

(10-12-2021, 04:18 PM)joemontes Wrote:  It's funny, but I just happened to watch the youtube video of the 2004 national championship match where senior Oganna NNAMANI, considered by many as arguably the greatest Cardinal hitter of all time, led Stanford to their 6th national crown.  The announcers mentioned that the Cardinal struggled through the start of the 2nd half PAC 10 play. And my research tells me that

-  they lost to St Mary's twice and to Penn State to finish their relatively easy OOC slate (definitely much easier than the brutal OOC schedule played by the current Stanford team) at 11-3;
-  then lost to USC, Washington and Cal to sport a 7-3 PAC 10 record through the start of the 2nd half of PAC 10 play;  

Then, all of a sudden:

-  they swept through the last 8 matches of PAC 10 play;
-  had to play at Florida during the NCAA tournament preliminary rounds where they beat Jacksonville (1st round) and host Florida (2nd round); 
-  then played at Wisconsin during the NCAA regionals where they beat Texas (R16) and host Wisconsin (Elite 8) to reach the Final 4;
-  then beat Washington in the national semifinals before dominating Minnesota in the national champoinships.


Well, I thought, maybe the current Stanford team can duplicate that feat.  Wishful thinking but, of course, they don't have a superwoman like Oganna NNAMANI, although I feel that the combined trio of BAIRD, KIPP and FRANCIS can collectively provide the firepower that NNAMANI unleashed, and boy, did Oganna unleash thunderous KABOOMs which made my jaw drop often, hahaha!

And speaking of NNAMANI KABOOMs, I also watched another youtube video when this was in utter display toward the end of the 1st set of Stanford's 2001 national semifinal match vs. Nebraska when, with Nebraska owning 4 set points at 29-25, then-freshman NNAMANI unleashed three (3) KABOOMs as Stanford rattled off 6 straight points to win that 1st set in dramatic fashion. WOW!

We won that year because of two things:

[1] November 18, 2004 match @ Stanford vs. UW:

"Stanford, Calif. - Senior outside hitter Ogonna Nnamani tallied a career-high 37 kills as the ninth-ranked Stanford women's volleyball team upset top-ranked Washington, 3-2, tonight in Burnham Pavilion. Game scores were 28-30, 11-30, 30-27, 34-32, 20-18. The Cardinal improve to 20-6 on the year, 12-3 in the Pac-10 while the Huskies drop their first match of the season to go to 22-1, 14-1 in league play."

That match was one of the most memorable I've ever attended. It was in Burnham, since Maples renovation was underway. The change in crowd emotion from "we're toast!" to "WE WON!" was palpable.

[2] As you point out: Ogonna Nnamani -- IIRC, the win over Florida in post-season [also a 3-2 victory] was a match where Ogonna announced in the locker room at the break that Stanford was NOT going to lose that match... and she made sure they didn't.

I keep looking for someone to show they have that presence/terminator factor/whatever to take over and dominate and, unfortunately, I haven't seen it yet. Plenty of matches left, so it can still appear, and I'll keep hoping.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BobK - 10-12-2021

That win over Washington was one of the best sporting events I’ve ever been to. A classic.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Softball Fan - 10-13-2021

Rather than start a new thread I will put some updates here on WVB alums:

https://volleyballmag.com/usa-women-pro-volleyball-100821/

Jenna Gray and Gates return to their club team in Germany.

Morgan Hentz to play in USA for Athletes Unlimited.  Finally some reason for me to watch these matches on TV.

Plummer returns to her Imoco Conegliano club team in Italy.  This team described by Volleyballmag.com as
"arguably the best club team in the world".


Go Card.  Beat Utah on Thursday (tomorrow) on ESPNU.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BobK - 10-13-2021

Fitzmorris in Switzerland

Also we have 3 indoor commits for next season. Two play the the top HS in the country. The other for the # 2 HS team


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - johnbar - 10-13-2021

Yes, that win over the Huskies in Burnham was unforgettable.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - joemontes - 10-14-2021

(10-12-2021, 06:21 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:  We won that year because of two things:

[1]  November 18, 2004 match @ Stanford vs. UW:

"Stanford, Calif. - Senior outside hitter Ogonna Nnamani tallied a career-high 37 kills as the ninth-ranked Stanford women's volleyball team upset top-ranked Washington, 3-2, tonight in Burnham Pavilion. Game scores were 28-30, 11-30, 30-27, 34-32, 20-18. The Cardinal improve to 20-6 on the year, 12-3 in the Pac-10 while the Huskies drop their first match of the season to go to 22-1, 14-1 in league play."

That match was one of the most memorable I've ever attended.  It was in Burnham, since Maples renovation was underway.  The change in crowd emotion from "we're toast!" to "WE WON!" was palpable.

[2]  As you point out: Ogonna Nnamani -- IIRC, the win over Florida in post-season [also a 3-2 victory] was a match where Ogonna announced in the locker room at the break that Stanford was NOT going to lose that match... and she made sure they didn't.

I keep looking for someone to show they have that presence/terminator factor/whatever to take over and dominate and, unfortunately, I haven't seen it yet.  Plenty of matches left, so it can still appear, and I'll keep hoping.

That most memorable match was a Washington loss that current Stanford assistant coach Courtney THOMPSON (the setter for Washington then) would rather forget, hahaha!

Incidentally, Bryn KEHOE was their highly-touted freshman setter who would set her Cardinal to a national championship.  Well, there's another similarity with the current Stanford team whose setter Kami MINER is also a highly-touted freshman.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - BostonCard - 10-14-2021

Here's the game against UW in the National Semifinal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGv4FvyIXFM

Not quite as epic, but still...

BC


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Softball Fan - 10-14-2021

http://cardinal.gostanford.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40KYGYaVdSXAsrjMO0iTdhBDITiyZUo6s4w1sUJ8BSVzM%3D

Match tonight at 7:30 against Utah.  Cardinal really need a win here.

The first 200 fans through the door will receive an exclusive Stanford mason jar.

Also reference to women's golf team in this link:

The Stanford Intercollegiate tees off at the Stanford Golf Course on Friday, Oct. 15 and concludes on Sunday, Oct. 17.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - joemontes - 10-14-2021

(10-14-2021, 01:43 PM)paloalto Wrote:  http://cardinal.gostanford.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40KYGYaVdSXAsrjMO0iTdhBDITiyZUo6s4w1sUJ8BSVzM%3D

Match tonight at 7:30 against Utah.  Cardinal really need a win here.

The first 200 fans through the door will receive an exclusive Stanford mason jar.

Also reference to women's golf team in this link:

The Stanford Intercollegiate tees off at the Stanford Golf Course on Friday, Oct. 15 and concludes on Sunday, Oct. 17.

Yes, I agree.  This week's home matches vs. Utah (who already own upset wins at Nebraska and at Washington) and Colorado (whose stock has fallen after the dismissal of their best hitter from the team) are MUST wins to help bolster their growing confidence.  

I'm sure the mindset moving forward continues to be take it one match at a time, with the intent of winning every match, and that's great!

As a fan, I just want to see more fire in this team, a semblance of killer instinct from this star-studded assembly of Top 2 (BAIRD, KIPP, FRANCIS) / Top 5 (MINER, XU, Leilah SMITH) / Top 10 (VICINI) / Top 20 (CAMPBELL, FIDELAK) / Top 26 (A SMITH) / Top 36 (OGLIVIE) overall high school recruits. Only Texas and Nebraska can match this collection of former HS standouts.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - ca245 - 10-14-2021

ESPNU is airing the Georgia Southern-South Alabama game live right now, just starting the third quarter. This means the game will almost certainly run long. If you want to see the start of the volleyball match, you likely will have to stream it.


RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball - Softball Fan - 10-14-2021

If you get ESPNews, the match is showing on that channel.