The Hunt for Cardinal OC and OL Coach

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Re: The Hunt for a New OC -- Match the NU offer or better - ADPATERSON - 12-08-2017

(12-08-2017, 03:46 PM)eric link Wrote:Walters now officially a cornhusker
Per NU, Walters' salary is $700,000 (up from $350,000 at UCF)

We couldn't offer better than $700K (+ housing package, tax adjustments) at a freeze-yer-keester school for one of our own, with Walters record?
I don't believe it.Â It can't be the money.Â Let's face it, for recruitment Nebraska ain't what it used to be.Â
Stanford is the better recruiting platform now.Â
So, Shaw just does not want to give up play calling, and that is that.Â BAD MISS.Â

Re: The Hunt for a New OC -- Match the NU offer or better - stupac2 - 12-08-2017

(12-08-2017, 07:01 PM)ADPATERSON link Wrote:[quote author=eric link=topic=18321.msg217540#msg217540 date=1512773190]
Walters now officially a cornhusker
Per NU, Walters' salary is $700,000 (up from $350,000 at UCF)

We couldn't better $700K (+ housing package, tax adjustments) at a freeze-yer-keester school for one of our own, with Walters record?
I don't believe it.Â It can't be the money.Â Let's face it, for recruitment Nebraska ain't what it used to be.Â
Stanford is the better recruiting platform now.Â
So, Shaw just does not want to give up play calling, and that is that.Â BAD MISS.
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Yeah, that's clearly the only option here.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - lex24 - 12-08-2017

Ive heard there isnt a ton of love there. But I cant understand why Fitzgerald would think Shaw would hire someone who runs an uptempo spread. Simply not going to happen.

(12-08-2017, 12:41 PM)Phogge link Wrote:Shaw isn't going to hire Walters. Can't divulge the source but you can probably ask around.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC -- Match the NU offer or better - lex24 - 12-08-2017

Why is it a bad miss?Â Is there any evidence Stanford could transition to an uptempo spread?Â Coaches that shift their offensive philosophy after recruiting to that philosophy generally do so because they are one step from the door. Mora was an exception. And it didnt work well for him.

(12-08-2017, 07:06 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=ADPATERSON link=topic=18321.msg217573#msg217573 date=1512784879]
[quote author=eric link=topic=18321.msg217540#msg217540 date=1512773190]
Walters now officially a cornhusker
Per NU, Walters' salary is $700,000 (up from $350,000 at UCF)

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - jacketree - 12-08-2017

(12-08-2017, 03:51 PM)oldguy link Wrote:I think getting some national TV time coaching a high powered offense will help Rice recruiting. I hope to see a bunch of Stanford scoring to go along with great defense. A beatdown of TCU would likely mean a lot to recruiting Texas for Stanford and Rice.

Let's hope for everyone's sake this does not become analogous to watching Walt Harris coach Pitt in the Orange Bowl.

I'm a little surprised he's staying to coach in the Alamo Bowl.Â His attention and time are at the least divided between Palo Alto and Houston.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - cardcrimson - 12-08-2017

(12-08-2017, 12:38 PM)Hulk01 link Wrote:The OL hire is far more important.Â As everyone knows from reading message boards, even a casual fan can call great plays.

Been away, and perusing the threads. Very, very funny. You caught me. Nice job.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - Langdude - 12-08-2017

Couldn't Bloomgren himself made a condition of his hire that he gets to coach his old team for the Alamo Bowl? I'd say it would speak to his loyalty to his players for anyone watching.

-m.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - washingtonismoney - 12-08-2017

Walters would've been cool. But there are several nice options out there. If Shaw wants to continue in roughly the same direction as the team has been going before, that's cool too. Believe it or don't, Stanford has a pretty good offense during Shaw's tenure. It could use some tweaks, but that makes improvement tricky. Sometimes the organ recipient rejects the transplant.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - cardcrimson - 12-08-2017

(12-08-2017, 10:10 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Walters would've been cool. But there are several nice options out there. If Shaw wants to continue in roughly the same direction as the team has been going before, that's cool too. Believe it or don't, Stanford has a pretty good offense during Shaw's tenure. It could use some tweaks, but that makes improvement tricky. Sometimes the organ recipient rejects the transplant.

While Walters would have been cool, his style is not the right fit. Happy with someone that runs a pro-style, heavy package that is creative enough not to run between the tackles four plays in a row.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - yvonne - 12-08-2017

There's a coaches' conference that takes place after the bowls. I don't expect a hire until after that.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - winflop - 12-09-2017

(12-08-2017, 10:22 PM)cardcrimson link Wrote:[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=18321.msg217595#msg217595 date=1512796246]
Walters would've been cool. But there are several nice options out there. If Shaw wants to continue in roughly the same direction as the team has been going before, that's cool too. Believe it or don't, Stanford has a pretty good offense during Shaw's tenure. It could use some tweaks, but that makes improvement tricky. Sometimes the organ recipient rejects the transplant.

While Walters would have been cool, his style is not the right fit. Happy with someone that runs a pro-style, heavy package that is creative enough not to run between the tackles four plays in a row.
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Moot point now. Frost is bring Walters with him to Nebraska

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - qwerty49 - 12-09-2017

I think there are a few internal dominoes here. And I think Tavita might end up at the center of a few scenarios.

Would Shaw really relinquish play calling and playbook decisions to someone else? It seems to me that is the key question here. Hes pretty much evaded any transparency with the Shawvitagren structure - why would he want to change that now? When I think about it, its not really clear what Shaw thinks the OC job responsibilities and accountabilities should be.

Would a new OC from outside want input as to the position coaches?

Wouldnt a prospective new OL coach from outside first want to know who the OC was?

Dont position coaches pretty much report to the coordinators? Would Gould and the other current O position coaches accept reporting to Tavita?

If Tavita stays and is not promoted, would he be content?

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - winflop - 12-09-2017

This exceprt from Fitzgerald's article about Bloomgren coaching through the bowl game may indicate that if OC comes from within, it will be current TE coach Morgan Turner:

"He [Bloomgren] said tight ends coach Morgan Turner would take on a bigger role in game planning and practice preparations."

http://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/Bloomgren-will-coordinate-Stanford-offense-in-12418593.php

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - 82lsju - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 12:25 PM)winflop link Wrote:This exceprt from Fitzgerald's article about Bloomgren coaching through the bowl game may indicate that if OC comes from within, it will be current TE coach Morgan Turner:

"He [Bloomgren] said tight ends coach Morgan Turner would take on a bigger role in game planning and practice preparations."

http://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/Bloomgren-will-coordinate-Stanford-offense-in-12418593.php

well Turner has about as much coaching experience as Pritchard

Alma Mater
Illinois 09

The Turner File

Season Program Position
2009 Indiana State Quarterbacks
2010 Stanford Sports Performance Intern
2011-12 Stanford Offensive Assistant
2013-17 Stanford Tight Ends

http://www.gostanford.com/staff.aspx?staff=420

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - BostonCard - 12-09-2017

Every time I see this thread I think of the Tom Clancy novel.

BC

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - JJJ - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 01:45 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Every time I see this thread I think of the Tom Clancy novel.

BC

Same. I think that was intentional and I like it.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - terry - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 12:25 PM)winflop link Wrote:This exceprt from Fitzgerald's article about Bloomgren coaching through the bowl game may indicate that if OC comes from within, it will be current TE coach Morgan Turner:

"He [Bloomgren] said tight ends coach Morgan Turner would take on a bigger role in game planning and practice preparations."

http://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/Bloomgren-will-coordinate-Stanford-offense-in-12418593.php

I'm guessing this means that Turner will help coach the OL while Bloomgren is attending to Rice business. It seems to me the TE coach probably is the most appropriate person to be involved in blocking schemes for the OL.

I am not ready to assume this means that Turner is the heir apparent for offensive coordinator.

Re: The Hunt for a New OC - martyup - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 03:11 PM)JJJ link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=18321.msg217645#msg217645 date=1512852311]
Every time I see this thread I think of the Tom Clancy novel.

BC

Same. I think that was intentional and I like it.
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The Hunt for a Cardinal OC - CompSci87 - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 03:11 PM)JJJ link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=18321.msg217645#msg217645 date=1512852311]
Every time I see this thread I think of the Tom Clancy novel.

BC

Same. I think that was intentional and I like it.
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Gotta work the color in, though. (See subject line.)

Re: The Hunt for a Cardinal OC - martyup - 12-09-2017

(12-09-2017, 04:23 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:[quote author=JJJ link=topic=18321.msg217659#msg217659 date=1512857491]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=18321.msg217645#msg217645 date=1512852311]
Every time I see this thread I think of the Tom Clancy novel.

BC

Same. I think that was intentional and I like it.
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Gotta work the color in, though. (See subject line.)
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Done!

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