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RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - BostonCard - 12-16-2018

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This rendering makes it look like there is parking.

BC


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 12-16-2018

(12-16-2018, 10:26 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  [Image: oakland-raiders-stadium-las-vegas-manica...een_sq.jpg]

This rendering makes it look like there is parking.

BC

I think I've read that the Las Vegas Stadium has a seating capacity of 60,000 and on site parking for 5,000 cars. The plan may be to have shuttle buses transport fans to the stadium, but I'm not sure about that.
I've not been to Levis Stadium but people have told me the lack of nearby parking, combined with very slow entry and exit times, is a significant negative to the game day experience.
For the 5 years I had Raiders season tickets the Oakland Coliseum parking-tailgating-entry-exit was ideal. I can't imagine any other stadium having a better transportation set up and situation. It's a shame the Raiders and, or, NFL could not maintain a team there.
And I guess the tailgate-parking-entry-exit situation at Stanford is as good as it gets for college football.


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - 82lsju - 12-16-2018

not sure how great the tailgating experience will be on an asphalt parking lot in Las Vegas for games in Aug or Sept.

Anyone been at a Phoenix Cardinals tailgater which is probably a similar experience?


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - Embo - 12-16-2018

Earlier in this thread, I made a post about how California Memorial Stadium has an ongoing problem with the Panoramic Hill Association, and how they made Cal veto free $1 million lighting, so I felt the Raiders would be an even bigger issue.  I wanted to make sure I was accurate on the dates, and was trying to remember what network was offering them, so I did some digging and found a link.  I was off a few years - it wasn't the early '90's, but 2000.  And the network was Fox Sports - back then, a relative newcomer to college football.  I was right on the details - it cost Fox a good amount to truck in temporary lights ($70,000 per game), so it made sense in the long run for Fox to pay for permanent lighting at all the stadiums.  And yes, Stanford Stadium v1.0 had lights paid for and installed by Fox Sports.

But here's the interesting and definitive quote, about halfway in the story.  The UC associate AD attempted to mollify the angry PHA hoard by informing them that Cal had "turned down numerous lucrative offers to rent out Memorial, including two requests by the Oakland Raiders, who offered $1 million to play there."

I would speculate that the Raiders may have requested a game when the Oakland Coliseum was in baseball infield configuration.  But Cal turned down the offer because they knew of the outcry by the neighbors.

Cal forced to decline free lighting - and the Raiders


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 12-16-2018

In 1960? the Raiders moved from So. Cal to play two years sharing Kezar with the 49ers, and then Oakland's brand new Youell Field for the 1962-1965 season's, before finally settling in 1966 at the brand new Oakland Coliseum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Youell_Field


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - Phogge - 12-16-2018

The Raiders originated in Oakland in 1960. The AFL team in LA was the Chargers. The original Oakland name was Senors but was dropped before the first exhibition game against the Dallas Texans at Kezar. The Texans became the KC Chiefs. The NY Titans became the Jets, the Boston Patriots became New England and the Tennessee Titans were first known as the Houston Oilers.


RE: OT discussion Las Vegas Raiders - jhftb2 - 12-17-2018

SF Fan, I though I was the only person with Stanford and Raider tickets.  My Raider season tickets go back a little further than my Stanford tickets (1995 vs 2006).  I for one am not going to miss getting out of Stanford at 10:00pm on a Saturday then having to meet up with my Raider group at 8:00am the next morning. 

As Lex24 points out, the Raiders have played several games at Cal due to schedule conflicts with the Athletics.   I missed the Dolphin game but I did attend a few preseason games there in the '70s.  Before the suit, there was a tentative deal in place for the Raiders to play 2019 in Oakland for $7.5M   I wonder any minds would change if the Raiders were to up the Berkeley ante to $5M.  It's only 9 games (one home game moved to London and no realistic shot at a home playoff game).  I've heard that the Cal Athletic Program could use a few bucks.  

More than 50 FBS schools (including San Jose State) allow some form of alcohol sales in their stadiums.  If Cal gets past the other hurdles, I think they'll work this out, too. 

The stadium in Vegas is only going to have ~2500 parking spots on-site.  They expect shuttle buses, Uber/Lyft and a bunch of folks walking from hotels to take up the slack.  Not exactly in keeping with young Mr. Davis public statements regarding the importance of tailgating to Raider Nation...

One August preseason game this season while tailgating in the asphalt RV lot in Oakland, I checked and at 6:00pm it was 106 in Vegas vs 84 in Oakland.  It was a dry heat though.

To the question of the effect of the Raiders departure on Stanford ticket sales:  there will be an impact. Whether it's measurable or not is another story.  Four members of my Raider tailgate group are buying Stanford tickets next year and there may be a few more.  From parking lot conversations I think Cal may benefit more than Stanford and the Niners but there won't be a long line of ex-Raider fans at any of the three.