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RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - yvonne - 12-28-2019

Oh, please. I've been to Canton. People go to see those guys long after the players have died. Heck, I have a shirt with all the Niners Hall of Famers. Nobody cares about a tired old news columnist with a sour attitude.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - BobK - 12-28-2019

Plus the max to Yvonne

What a sad tread


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - cardcrimson - 12-28-2019

Skip Bayless will be remembered just as well as George Grande is. . . .


lex24 - lex24 - 12-28-2019

Skip Bayless is a dick. In fact, I looked up slang for “dick”.  It is simply a picture of Bayless. 

One of my favorite moments in sports BS talk (which it all is of course) is when Bayless was on some show with Jalen Rose talking basketball and Rose basically told him he didn’t know what he’s talking about.  Bayless said he was the starting point guard on his high school team. Rose came back a show or two later with the yearbook from that basketball team. Bayless rode the bench. Bayless makes a living by being a dick. He will be forgotten  the second he shuts his yap.  Hell I forgot him already.


Who is George Grande.......  :). 

(12-28-2019, 01:26 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Skip Bayless will be remembered just as well as George Grande is. . . .



RE: lex24 - CowboyIndian - 12-28-2019

(12-28-2019, 01:56 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Who is George Grande.......  :). 

One of the Grande brothers....Rio, Casa and Rancho.


RE: lex24 - qwerty49 - 12-29-2019

(12-28-2019, 04:47 PM)CowboyIndian Wrote:  
(12-28-2019, 01:56 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Who is George Grande.......  :). 

One of the Grande brothers....Rio, Casa and Rancho.

I'm more partial to the sisters, Ariana and Latte.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - CardinalSagehen - 12-29-2019

I guess the Seahawks did not wish to try Richard Sherman with no sorry wide receivers tonight.

Did they throw his way even once?  That says a lot right there...


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - BobK - 12-29-2019

Maybe once but never once down 12


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - BostonCard - 12-29-2019

Sherman did have four tackles, two solo, so I think they did.

BC


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - CardinalSagehen - 12-30-2019

(12-29-2019, 10:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Sherman did have four tackles, two solo, so I think they did.

BC

The only tackles that I saw were on screen passes, running plays and other people’s covers.  I did a quick search on Twitter, and apparently this guy from PFF noticed, too. Russell Wilson gets credit tonight for being smarter than Kaepernick was - in 40 attempts, he didn't dare try Sherman with any receivers at all, except once on a free play, unsuccessfully!

[twitter]https://twitter.com/basportsguy/status/1211534082514903040?s=21[/twitter]

And by the way, the “227” refers to the total number of yards allowed by Sherman in coverage all season long.  


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - JustAnotherFan - 12-30-2019

(12-30-2019, 12:28 AM)CardinalSagehen Wrote:  
(12-29-2019, 10:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Sherman did have four tackles, two solo, so I think they did.

BC

The only tackles that I saw were on screen passes, running plays and other people’s covers.  I did a quick search on Twitter, and apparently this guy from PFF noticed, too. Russell Wilson gets credit tonight for being smarter than Kaepernick was - in 40 attempts, he didn't dare try Sherman with any receivers at all, except once on a free play, unsuccessfully!

[twitter]https://twitter.com/basportsguy/status/1211534082514903040?s=21[/twitter]

And by the way, the “227” refers to the total number of yards allowed by Sherman in coverage all season long.  

Ok, sure, but look at the season Skip Bayless has had!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6cTswXYLkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Ms6i6yVng

LOL.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - FarmBoy - 12-30-2019

(12-29-2019, 10:07 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Sherman did have four tackles, two solo, so I think they did.

BC

I think some of those tackles were on outlet passes/screens to running backs where Sherman crashed down to participate in the tackle. Those plays made me wonder which DB gets credited with having allowed that catch/yards. Surely Sherman's QB rating allowed wouldn't be negatively impacted because he was the one who tackled the RB coming out of the backfield for a catch.

Yeah, Redstate is clearly trying out arguments to fit his narrative. Richard Sherman is one of the top players of the last decade (the stats back that up) and will be in the HOF. True, in 30 years, a lot of younger players won't know him, but I am sure more people will remember Sherman in 30 years than remember Skip Bayless. Who remembers sports commentators after they retire? You have to be Howard Cossell or George Plimpton level to be still recognized by anyone a decade after you're off the air. And SB is clearly not that.

If the 49ers win a Super Bowl with Sherman as a starter, he will become iconic.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - JustAnotherFan - 01-04-2020

Future first ballot hall of famer Richard Sherman keeps proving critics wrong.

He was named second team All-Pro and triggered another $2 million on the incentive laden contract that many called him a fool for negotiating. 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/49ers-Richard-Sherman-still-cashing-in-on-14948670.php


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - OutsiderFan - 01-04-2020

Stanford needs way more Richard Shermans on its roster.

If you have a player throwing tantrums about something, it’s a good thing. It shows how much passion he has for winning. Football is an emotional sport because there are so very few games. You don’t get many second chances and must make adjustments fast to things not working. Harbaugh of all people should have gotten along with Sherman famously because they both are insanely passionate about winning.

If anyone doubts Richard Sherman’s ability to be successful in the rest of his life beyond football, they just aren’t paying attention or don’t know how to identify the traits that make people successful. There are different ways to succeed, but Sherman has shown whatever he does and how he approaches things is one way.

How many other players in Stanford history make the 4th and 20 catch in 2007? Dude had to have the speed to get to the sticks, had to catch the ball, and endure a big hit to hold on to it. He turned himself from 5th rd pick to Hall of Famer. He overcame a torn Achilles nobody thought he could return to the same level from, and became statistically the best CB in the NFL two years later.

Is it really hard to imagine this guy making smart investments? Is it really hard to see him starting initiatives that become impactful? Each person defines success differently. It is clearly obvious Richard Sherman knows what it is for him and that he knows how to create it for himself. It’s fine to disagree with how he acts or what he believes, but only someone with an axe to grind against him would ever doubt his ability to be successful at whatever it is he chooses. Part of that is knowing his own limitations, something he has absolutely mastered as a football player.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - Goose - 01-04-2020

(01-04-2020, 06:15 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Harbaugh of all people should have gotten along with Sherman famously because they both are insanely passionate about winning.


If anyone doubts Richard Sherman’s ability to be successful in the rest of his life beyond football, they just aren’t paying attention or don’t know how to identify the traits that make people successful. There are different ways to succeed, but Sherman has shown whatever he does and how he approaches things is one way.

I also have always felt that Sherman and Harbaugh shared many personality traits. It is perfectly understandable that two people with very strong personalities would clash. I think that at the time, neither one would give an inch, or attempt to find a way to coexist. However, I think Sherman has grown and learned by experience how to adapt. He has also learned that being all in doesn't require being abrasive to everybody around you. His approach to success is now much more nuanced and effectively focused.  Harbaugh still appears to have trouble with that concept.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - cardcrimson - 01-04-2020

(01-04-2020, 08:40 AM)Goose Wrote:  
(01-04-2020, 06:15 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Harbaugh of all people should have gotten along with Sherman famously because they both are insanely passionate about winning.


If anyone doubts Richard Sherman’s ability to be successful in the rest of his life beyond football, they just aren’t paying attention or don’t know how to identify the traits that make people successful. There are different ways to succeed, but Sherman has shown whatever he does and how he approaches things is one way.

I also have always felt that Sherman and Harbaugh shared many personality traits. It is perfectly understandable that two people with very strong personalities would clash. I think that at the time, neither one would give an inch, or attempt to find a way to coexist. However, I think Sherman has grown and learned by experience how to adapt. He has also learned that being all in doesn't require being abrasive to everybody around you. His approach to success is now much more nuanced and effectively focused.  Harbaugh still appears to have trouble with that concept.

Exactly. Sherman can turn it off and on, and more importantly, adapt it to his audience. Harbaugh has only an on button, not even an off.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - BostonCard - 01-04-2020

Note Sherman and Harbaugh weren’t the only two who were oil and water.

On the other hand, being liked by players is not a requirement to be a good coach.

BC


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - Goose - 01-04-2020

(01-04-2020, 11:55 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  On the other hand, being liked by players is not a requirement to be a good coach.



BC

This goes back to the question of whether it is better for the Prince to be loved or feared. Either can work. However IMHO a college coach has to realize that there are going to be personality conflicts on the team. It is his job to make it a teaching moment and at least try to have all parties behave in a mature manner and work together for the benefit of the team. For sure, that isn't always possible, as some guys just can't or won't do what is needed to get along. That said, the guy who is being a totally ego focused asshole better not be the coach. I am afraid that with Harbaugh, sometimes it is.


RE: Richard Sherman *hated* Harbaugh, but goes out of his way to help Stanford Football - Mick - 01-05-2020

(01-04-2020, 12:51 PM)Goose Wrote:  
(01-04-2020, 11:55 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  On the other hand, being liked by players is not a requirement to be a good coach.



BC

This goes back to the question of whether it is better for the Prince to be loved or feared. Either can work. However IMHO a college coach has to realize that there are going to be personality conflicts on the team. It is his job to make it a teaching moment and at least try to have all parties behave in a mature manner and work together for the benefit of the team. For sure, that isn't always possible, as some guys just can't or won't do what is needed to get along. That said, the guy who is being a totally ego focused asshole better not be the coach. I am afraid that with Harbaugh, sometimes it is.

One of my son's early volleyball coaches coached both the boys' and girls' volleyball teams at a prominent South Bay high school.  Early on, I asked him the biggest difference between the two.  Was it power?  Strategy?  Positioning?  Uh-uh.  Biggest difference was attitude.  If two guys couldn't stand each other off the court, they could still play together and play together well on the court.   But if the setter on the girls' team didn't like the star outside hitter, she wouldn't set her -- ever.  Not once.