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RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - 81alum - 01-22-2021

Wilson has only 10 minutes in the game.  I guess she was having trouble with Osborne?  Osborne is 9/19 for 21 points so far, so it looks like everyone is having trouble with her.

It looks like the zone has discombobulated UCLA.  I wish we had tried it a lot earlier.  With our length, the zone does feel like it should work.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - crackpot - 01-22-2021

Has Close wore her mask properly for even one second of this game?


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - mbdude - 01-22-2021

Give it away, offensive rebounds and to's


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - BostonCard - 01-22-2021

Yikes, talk about falling apart at the finish.

Turnover, foul, give up the offensive rebound on the missed foul shot, foul again, give up the rebound on the missed foul shot again.

BC


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - BosCard - 01-22-2021

(01-22-2021, 09:55 PM)mbdude Wrote:  Give it away, offensive rebounds and to's

Another bad game where we shoot the ball well but find ways to lose.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - TheFarm07 - 01-22-2021

(01-22-2021, 09:55 PM)mbdude Wrote:  Give it away, offensive rebounds and to's

I am not even disappointed; I am just angry. Despite everything that happened in the game, we had a chance to win, but too many mistakes.  I get chided when I point out the things we can do to improve in a victory, but these mistakes can be habit forming and then when they pop up in a competitive game, they can cost us the game and they did.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - PVTree - 01-22-2021

Looks like we are a soft team. Other teams are getting Offensive rebounds at will against us. UCLA is not a big team yet they out-rebounded us by a good amount.

Very disappointing.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - jonnyss - 01-22-2021

(01-22-2021, 09:14 PM)chimera Wrote:  Can someone explain to me why no review of the play where Kiana got elbowed in the head?  I thought automatic review, foul called or not.  I don't know that it was or was not a foul, but I thought they were supposed to always review that sort of thing.
i agree


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - stanford22 - 01-22-2021

(01-22-2021, 10:02 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote:  
(01-22-2021, 09:55 PM)mbdude Wrote:  Give it away, offensive rebounds and to's

I am not even disappointed; I am just angry. Despite everything that happened in the game, we had a chance to win, but too many mistakes.  I get chided when I point out the things we can do to improve in a victory, but these mistakes can be habit forming and then when they pop in a competitive game, they can cost us the game and they did.

One mistake after another, and giving up all those O boards, no excuse.   These girls miss so many layups too.   They just throw it up at times.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - jonnyss - 01-22-2021

(01-22-2021, 08:51 PM)81alum Wrote:  Well, the second quarter was a near disaster.  Three of our four posts with 2 fouls each.  UCLA shot over 50% in that quarter.  We are being grossly out rebounded, and have 7 turnovers to their 4.  Osborne is playing much better than in the first game.  

is everybody still glad we took hannah jump over charisma osborne?


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - 81alum - 01-22-2021

We did not make a three point shot in the second half.

We gave up 21 offensive rebounds and got only 7 of our own.

We made only 10 of our 17 free throws.

Turnovers were not really the story overall--but there were two doozies in the last minutes that cost us a chance of tying up the game.

Yes, we shot 50% for the game while UCLA shot only 35%, but UCLA had 11 more attempts than we did.

Of all these factors, the rebounding was the most significant, since it did not only let UCLA score points, but it gave them momentum and aggression that fed their effort.

We lost.

This team has some growing up to do.  Immense talent, but some undisciplined play at critical times.  Belibi's four turnovers and all those fouls on her and Jones and Brink....


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - Hulk01 - 01-22-2021

The difference in the game was second chance points.  We lost that battle, 18-6.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - Spiny_Norman - 01-22-2021

The team that played smarter and worked harder won the game. That was true in Boulder too.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - Softball Fan - 01-22-2021

Your opponent has a short bench.  Their best player has arguably her worst offensive game of the season.  They still win.
Conclusion:  Your opponent is better than you.

UCLA learned from the first time they played Stanford and improved; particularly on defense.

Williams did some good things.  I thought at times she forced it a little too much.  Maybe Tara told her to play one on five.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - Jskass - 01-22-2021

bottom line: if we EITHER had rebounded better OR hit our free throws we would have won. Way UNDERplaying our potential.


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - chimera - 01-22-2021

UCLA deserved the win.  They shot great first half, crushed us on the boards, and made fewer mistakes when it counted.  A shame that last pass was a TO, but why was Belibi passing to Jones there anyway?  Player in front of Jones and looked like Belibi had a lane to the basket.  What happened to our rebounding?  it was a strength all season until the last couple of games, then fell off a cliff.  The team to me looks a bit mentally fried from the loooooooooooong roadie.  They are making mistakes and missing stuff like strong box outs that they were doing better a few weeks ago.  Defense has not been that great lately, though gotta give credit to UCLA shooters in the first half.  If we only rebounded decently and did not make a few really bad mental mistakes, this is a win.  Oh well.  Went from the penthouse to maybe out of the top 10.

ETA that oh yeah, we also fouled way too much, took our bigs out of the game that way. Refs were bad but we did foul way too much. Jones sat most of the first half. If we had not fouled so much and kept our bigs in the game better, we are probably not down at the half like that. If this was the comeback response after a loss, it was a poor one.


RE: WBB: UCLA 70 Stanford 66 - 81alum - 01-22-2021

I just found the chalk talk that Katy Steding posted today.  It was hard to watch it after-the-fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNAIBa3kjV0&feature=youtu.be

In talking about UCLA, her words were prophetic.

"We need to finish shots around the rim and we need to control the boards.  If we let them get on the offensive boards against us it is going to be a long game."


RE: WBB: 5 Stanford vs. 6 UCLA 7pm Friday - BillBradley - 01-22-2021

-14 Oboards, -2 TO's, +1 Steals = 15 more possessions for them (depending on how the +5 blocks turned out). On top of that, we only make 2 3's.  Thoughts on this:

- I don't think the problem was effort or desire. I thought we played hard and wanted it enough. I think it has to do more with matchups. Kiana and Anna were physically outmatched today. I agreed with Tara taking Anna out and leaving Kiana in. We need her offense too much. Fran and Haley really struggled to rebound the basketball against quicker (Onyenware) and stronger (Bessoire). In hindsight, the zone was a great move against this team and gives us options for the future that we might not otherwise have deployed.
- Brink has got to stay out of foul trouble. 2 of her 4 were acceptable, but the other 2 were not (silly reaching stuff). She has to stay on the floor as our best rebounder/finisher.  
- Our half court set is getting stale and/or our players are getting lazy on offense. 2 games in a row we aren't able to produce enough points with the other team taking away our dribble penetration. We have to free up 3 point shooters in our half court sets. In this game, we got outshot 8 to 2 in 3's. To win the Pac12, and to compete for a national championship, we have to be more effective here. It's not that we don't have shooters, it's that they aren't open. Plus, when you hit a few from 3, it opens up our inside game.
- Finally, we've got nothing in transition in our last 3 halves of basketball. Give Colorado and UCLA credit, but we are a very fast team and aren't using it to our advantage. I think Kiana and Haley are both lingering waiting for the outlet. One of them needs to take off. 

All that said, I remain positive. This team has what it takes if we can get our momentum back. How great would a real home stand be about now? :<


RE: WBB: UCLA 70 Stanford 66 - Phogge - 01-22-2021

Some of the players play stiff. UCLA more athletic. Brink has got to get stronger. You absolutely cannot give away an inbound. Jones needs to post up and I would play her at the 5. Everyone needs to block out and get much more physical.


RE: WBB: UCLA 70 Stanford 66 - BosCard - 01-22-2021

I really don't like it when Tara goes with a lineup of Williams, Wilson, Hull, Hull and a big.  The Hulls are really good perimeter defenders but they are not good post defenders or post rebounders. They are just not strong enough and a gust of wind can knock them over if they are expected to battle in the post.