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lex24 - lex24 - 02-04-2021

(02-04-2021, 07:33 AM)CTcard Wrote:
(02-03-2021, 10:34 PM)lex24 Wrote:
(02-03-2021, 09:40 PM)Goose Wrote:
(02-03-2021, 06:53 PM)lex24 Wrote: True Frosh QBs generally don’t play anywhere. And when they do, generally not very well. The exceptions being the Trevor Lawrence’s of the world. Andrew, of course, was in that category. But St Jim of Harbaugh decided he should sit in favor of the great Tavita Pritchard. No decision Shaw has made comes close to being that bad.
Well, one most important person didn't think it was a bad decision. Andrew Luck. Reportedly he talked Harbaugh out of burning his shirt. Was Andrew
as a freshman more capable than Tavita? For sure. But that was a truly BAD team with an OL that couldn't pass block. Tavita spent lots of time running for his life, or worse still didn't even have time to run for his life. Would we have won more games with luck at QB? Arguably not. I think Andrew was no
fool and knew this wasn't the year.

I have never believed that story. For two reasons: the first being, as a competitor I can’t believe AL would not want to play. Second, and this is the bigger reason, In the SJS game (second quarter, I think), Luck started warming up. Not easily playing catch. Getting ready to play. Pritchard took Stanford on a scoring drive and that was that.

There's lots of stories. Hard to know the level of truth behind them.

I thought I had heard it was the UW game that was the critical decision point (week after SJSU) where going into the game the plan was to have Pritchard on a very short leash then bring in Luck; but Pritchard proceeded to have the best game of his career. After that it was deemed too late to burn the redshirt.
However, it is quite possible the SJSU story was basically correct. At that game Stanford started out: 3 and out, 3 and out, interception, fumble; before putting a TD drive together.
Maybe both occurred.

After the fact, Luck seemed perfectly happy with having redshirted in 2008. What he thought at the time is harder to discern.

Anyway, the 2008 team was not terrible, certainly compared to what came before. The run game was nicely rounding into shape (200 yds/gm). The defense was far better than in had been (and better than it would be in the otherwise breakout 2009 season). The record was 5-7, with 3 one score losses. Given Tavita's struggles (e.g. his PER in 2008 was 114, Luck in 2009 was 143), it's hard to avoid thinking that with Luck as QB Stanford would have at least made a bowl game in 2008 (the bowl drought hit 7 years in 2008).

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More broadly, I agree that the Luck frosh year and McCaffrey frosh year were the two most glaring personnel-decision mistakes of the past 14 years. For some reason I find 2014 more irritating. The staff built an offensive plan that year that woefully misunderstood the strengths of the personnel on offense, with McCaffrey as exhibit A. The offense came around late season as McCaffrey started getting the ball more and broadly Stanford returned to things they were better at at the time - a power run game (which then was still mostly Power, zone-schemes started to dominate the next year) complemented by a high-percentage, first-down achieving pass game.

CT - I know he was dressed and throwing second Q of SJS. He was right behind me. And I was hoping he’d get in. That was game 4, I think. Also, there was a comment that Prichard was running for his life all the time. Which I simply don’t recall quite honestly. I did look up his numbers however and he ran the ball something like 66 times for 120 yards. Now they include sacks in rushing statistics so I couldn’t tell what the positive and negative yardage was.

I have a very very hard time believing that Andrew luck told Harbaugh he wanted to redshirt. That would run counter to the type of talent and competitor he was.

Agree on 2014. The other adjustment that they made late was having both Wright and McCaffrey in the backfield in a two back shotgun formation which was quite effective. Something I’d actually like to see them do more. I think it would work well with Jones and Peat.

Given receiver and QBs losses, the running game is going to be even more important in ‘21. With Jones, Peat , what should be a strong offensive line and a QB, be it Mckee or Sanders , that can run, the elements are there. Figuring out how to use them is the bigger question.

Then there is EJ. Smith.

RE: lex24 - CowboyIndian - 02-04-2021

(02-04-2021, 10:04 AM)lex24 Wrote: I have a very very hard time believing that Andrew luck told Harbaugh he wanted to redshirt. That would run counter to the type of talent and competitor he was.

My recollection is that Harbaugh talked with Oliver Luck and that's where the decision was made. Could be faulty, though. In fact, that's pretty likely.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - BobK - 02-04-2021

That was certainly the story CI.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - Phogge - 02-04-2021

That may have been the decision but it doesn't mean that it was correct.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - 82lsju - 02-22-2021

Quote:Luke McCaffrey transferring to Louisville Cardinals

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30945856/former-nebraska-cornhuskers-qb-luke-mccaffrey-transferring-louisville-cardinals

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - 82lsju - 06-15-2021

now moving on to Rice

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31631108/former-nebraska-qb-luke-mccaffrey-pivots-leaves-louisville-rice

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - Phogge - 06-15-2021

He may end up playing for more teams than Bobo Newsome.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - slide - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 09:04 AM)Phogge Wrote: He may end up playing for more teams than Bobo Newsome.

playing?

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - BostonCard - 06-15-2021

Ironically he will be playing for Bloomgren. I wonder if Bloomgren would have been involved in the decision not to recruit him to Stanford?

BC

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - gailtate - 06-16-2021

(06-15-2021, 09:04 AM)Phogge Wrote: He may end up playing for more teams than Bobo Newsome.

I remember Bobo Olson.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - Phogge - 06-16-2021

Bono lived a few blocks away in the Sunset. I still have a pair of kids boxing gloves that he signed. More Sunset boxers, Irish Pat Lawler and Ray Lunny Jr.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - CardinalSagehen - 06-16-2021

It seems like Luke’s big brothers are not thrilled with Scott Frost picking on him as an example of the problems with the transfer portal.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/notoriousmax25/status/1405300871093706760?s=21[/tweet]

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - fullmetal - 06-17-2021

Somebody keep Scott Frost away from the media...the transfer portal is popular and here to stay. One coach pointing fingers is not going to close the barn doors. The horses are already out the door.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - SamuelMcF - 06-17-2021

Frost isn't wrong. Luke is getting bad advice. He keeps being told he can be a starting QB somewhere. (Although I suppose if you can do it anywhere, it's probably Rice...)

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - TreeWeird - 06-17-2021

Below is a link to the entire lengthy answer that Frost gave to a fan question at a roadshow event in Nebraska (according to The Athletic's reporter). Perfection in public statements is a lovely goal for all coaches. The answer was mostly NOT about Luke and Frost did not name him. Sure, it was not ideal to make a reference to Luke, even if most casual fans wouldn't even catch the reference without somebody pointing it out.

The McCafferys are showing some pretty touchy overreaction here. And their doing so shines a light on Luke's decisions far more than Frost's comment.

https://twitter.com/mitchsherman/status/1405329524640862216?s=20

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - TrumpCard - 06-17-2021

Kid is choosing Rice over U. Nebraska and Louisville. I don't care if he plays football at all. It's a good decision.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - Phogge - 06-17-2021

In Christian's Junior year the McCaffrey Family turned down a profile request that would have led the season opener on 60 Minutes. Most people would have jumped on it. Not saying it was wrong but the McCaffreys' are not most people.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - ColoradoTree - 06-17-2021

(06-17-2021, 12:53 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Kid is choosing Rice over U. Nebraska and Louisville. I don't care if he plays football at all. It's a good decision.

Right? If you're forced to transfer for playing time, one would assume your NFL prospects are already looking pretty shaky. But academically, hard to see anything other than a good decision here.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - CTcard - 06-17-2021

(06-17-2021, 01:50 PM)ColoradoTree Wrote:
(06-17-2021, 12:53 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Kid is choosing Rice over U. Nebraska and Louisville. I don't care if he plays football at all. It's a good decision.

Right? If you're forced to transfer for playing time, one would assume your NFL prospects are already looking pretty shaky. But academically, hard to see anything other than a good decision here.

That would be true to the extent that academics are involved.

RE: Luke McCaffrey enters transfer portal - BostonCard - 06-17-2021

I mean, it's not like he transferred from Stanford to Nebraska! Now there is someone who got "bad advice". Turned out alright for him, though; Frost won a national championship in Nebraska, got picked as an NFL third rounder (ironically as a safety, which I think is why he left Stanford, which wanted to convert him to a safety), had a short career in the NFL, and now has had a college coaching career.

BC