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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 82lsju - 07-23-2021

(07-23-2021, 12:38 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  

(07-23-2021, 12:32 PM)dabigv13 Wrote:  It's a pretty dumb name but the winged G baseball logo is slick. Naming a baseball team after some statues, meh, but my general principle is the more art deco the better, so I might just have to buy a hat.

Well, there is the old winged A's logo...



BC

maybe winged Angels logo.....

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - BostonCard - 07-23-2021

I should have said "winged A logo" (replying to someone mentioning the winged G logo)

BC

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - CTcard - 07-23-2021

(07-23-2021, 08:27 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  [tweet]https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1418574083634171907?s=20[/tweet]

BC

I find this very amusing as my town's high school just swtiched their nickname to the Guardians from the now unacceptable Tomahawks.

The logo was designed by a student. Somehow seems to echo the winged G to me (though not clear why).

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 82lsju - 07-23-2021

here is what one looks like

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - Phogge - 07-23-2021

Stanford Dishes? There are no dishes at Stanford but plenty at SDSU, ASU and UT.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - BobK - 07-23-2021

Actually there are many Phogge many

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - CardinalSagehen - 07-23-2021

The Washington Football Team must be annoyed that Cleveland beat them to it.  

Stanford - 1972
Cleveland - 2021
WFT - WTF?

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - chrisk - 07-23-2021

In 1915, the Indians name was not expected to stick.

The Indians name was not supposed to stick.

“The nickname … is but temporarily bestowed,” wrote the Cleveland Plain Dealer, “as the club may so conduct itself during the present season as to earn some other cognomen which may be more appropriate. The choice of a name that would be significant just now was rather difficult with the club itself anchored in last place.”


https://www.mlb.com/news/how-the-cleveland-indians-became-the-guardians


https://www.mlb.com/indians/news/cleveland-indians-change-name-to-guardians

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - PVTree - 07-24-2021

I found it curious that they just changed the spelling at the beginning...from in-dians to guar-dians. It'll save them lots of money just to get little stickers with the "guar" to cover the "in" on their letterhead, business cards, etc. ;)

It's an odd name, just like the Mighty Ducks was, apparently inspired by a movie in some part.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - BostonCard - 07-24-2021

(07-23-2021, 02:27 PM)82lsju Wrote:  here is what one looks like

Cool statue, but guardians of traffic doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as Guardians of the Galaxy.

BC

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - teejers1 - 07-26-2021

(07-24-2021, 12:49 PM)PVTree Wrote:  I found it curious that they just changed the spelling at the beginning...from in-dians to guar-dians. It'll save them lots of money just to get little stickers with the "guar" to cover the "in" on their letterhead, business cards, etc. ;)

It's an odd name, just like the Mighty Ducks was, apparently inspired by a movie in some part.

I think the new nickname and logo work, in no small part due to the gut feel of looking at the scripted writing and thinking "it's not that different."  The Hanks video is good; and Guardians of the Galaxy also helps.

Taken together, I think Cleveland Guardians will take hold and folks will get comfortable with it very quickly . . . [edit per Terry's post below] . . . unless derailed by trademark/naming litigation.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - terry - 07-26-2021

Apparently, there's already a roller derby team named the Cleveland Guardians, which owns clevelandguardians.com. I assume the baseball Guardians must have agreed to purchase the name. I can't imagine that they could have missed such an obvious issue.

https://www.facebook.com/clevelandguardians/

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 82lsju - 07-26-2021

(07-26-2021, 10:59 AM)terry Wrote:  Apparently, there's already a roller derby team named the Cleveland Guardians, which owns clevelandguardians.com. I assume the baseball Guardians must have agreed to purchase the name. I can't imagine that they could have missed such an obvious issue.

https://www.facebook.com/clevelandguardians/

looks like this is already being litigated

roller derby team application for trademark on "Cleveland Guardians"

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:uiat31.2.1

Cleveland Indians opposition

https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91268711&pty=OPP&eno=1

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 2006alum - 07-26-2021

I'm in solidarity with my fellow alums who were undergrads in the 70's when the mascot change was in the works and who overwhelmingly voted for the new mascot to be the Robber Barons. I say own your legacy and poke some fun at it.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - Mick - 07-27-2021

(07-23-2021, 01:52 PM)CTcard Wrote:  I find this very amusing as my town's high school just swtiched their nickname to the Guardians from the now unacceptable Tomahawks.

The logo was designed by a student. Somehow seems to echo the winged G to me (though not clear why).

When I was in grade school, a rival school was known as The Crusaders.  When that proved not-PC-enough, they went with "Travelers."  Loooooove that one.  "We weren't maurading, pillaging, looting and destroying...we were just tourists."

And separately, I liked the Cleveland Spiders. There were also Negro League franchises from Cleveland known as the Blues, Buckeyes, Elites, Hornets, Infants, and Stars. Any of those would have been fine.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - Phogge - 07-27-2021

They could have used the logo from real guardians namely the 37th National Guard Division based in Ohio. 794 KIA in WWI, WWII action in New Georgia, Bougainville, the Lingayen Gulf landings and recapture of Clark Field and Baguio in the Philippine Campaign. Did mop up in North Luzon. 1,094 KIA. Called the "Buckeye Division" its patch was a red circle with a white ring around it and a thin silver circle border.

Maybe Eric can post a picture.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 82lsju - 07-27-2021

(07-27-2021, 11:28 AM)Phogge Wrote:  They could have used the logo from real guardians namely the 37th National Guard Division based in Ohio. 794 KIA in WWI, WWII action in New Georgia, Bougainville, the Lingayen Gulf landings and recapture of Clark Field and Baguio in the Philippine Campaign. Did mop up in North Luzon. 1,094 KIA. Called the "Buckeye Division" its patch was a red circle with a white ring around it and a thin silver circle border.

Maybe Eric can post a picture.

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - Phogge - 07-27-2021

Thanks pal!

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RE: The Cleveland "Guardians" - 82lsju - 11-16-2021

Quote:Cleveland’s Major League Baseball franchise will continue to use the name Guardians after the club reached an “amicable resolution” with a local roller derby team of the same name.

Terms of the agreement, which was announced Tuesday, were not released.

https://www.cleveland.com/guardians/2021/11/cleveland-guardians-name-dispute-resolved-baseball-club-and-roller-derby-team-will-both-use-name.html

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