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RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Snorlax94 - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:04 PM)cctop Wrote:  
(11-15-2021, 07:07 PM)82lsju Wrote:  At least that's my guess since I got an email offering two free tix (from the email it sounds like season ticket buyers will get the offer), locations are not great but still......

Hmm, I didn't get that email. :-(  But I let go of my sideline seats this year and kept only my family plan.
I got the email today. It looks like perhaps they are sending them out in the order of level of engagement. I’m usually one of the last fifth of people to choose seats, so I suppose offers may be forthcoming to Family Plan subscribers tomorrow, if they get that deep.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - qwerty49 - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 07:09 PM)Phogge Wrote:  Hey Giants, Crusader Rabbit really was for adults. 

Just for you Phogge.  Re the plotline, amazing how some things never change.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hHQvkUhJo

Re dirt clods and cars, my cousin tossed a cherry bomb out his bedroom window once.....right thru an open window on the passing 55 Sacramento.  Rumor has it the driver stopped the bus and got out and looked around for the culprits.  Can't confirm that since we were all hiding out of sight below the window sill.  60 years later and he's still afraid we're gonna squeal on him to his 96 yr old mom.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Giants - 11-17-2021

(11-16-2021, 07:09 PM)Phogge Wrote:  Hey Giants, Crusader Rabbit really was for adults. So was Fireman Frank (George Lamont) who was my favorite. Had a puppet chicken called Road Island Red.

We got one Seals game a week (Saturday with two cameras and Don Klein at the mic) until the first UHF station came on air. Think we got a couple of weekly bight games, one at Seals and one from Oakland until the Oaks moved after the '55 season to Vancouver. Klein did Stanford football, Bud Foster did the Oaks radio, Roy Storey the Channel 32 (UHF with a special rabbit ears coil antenna) games and Bob Fouts doing the Niners from Kezar. There was one game of the week on NBC with Lindsey Nelson calling and Red Grange doing color. There were a couple of other games on Dumont but not everybody saw them. CBS handled the NFL GOTW. Rozelle negotiated the contract that guaranteed that every home market in the NFL viewed their home team on CBS on the road. Local games were blacked out. NBC did a deal with the AFL.

Big Game was THE sports event in the Bay Area. The Saturday morning papers had many pages devoted to the game.

Kids actually played outside. We made up our own games, played football in the streets and went to Saturday matinees mostly to raise hell early and then to meet girls a bit later in adolescence. We didn't have the experience of growing up in the country shooting squirrels and swimming in ponds but we did know how to string cherry bombs together and how to lead a moving car with a dirt clod.

Yeah, I remember Fireman Frank as well.  I think that is why I liked those tv shows - they didn’t talk down to kids.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - gailtate - 11-17-2021

(11-17-2021, 01:26 AM)Giants Wrote:  
(11-16-2021, 07:09 PM)Phogge Wrote:  Hey Giants, Crusader Rabbit really was for adults. So was Fireman Frank (George Lamont) who was my favorite. Had a puppet chicken called Road Island Red.

We got one Seals game a week (Saturday with two cameras and Don Klein at the mic) until the first UHF station came on air. Think we got a couple of weekly bight games, one at Seals and one from Oakland until the Oaks moved after the '55 season to Vancouver. Klein did Stanford football, Bud Foster did the Oaks radio, Roy Storey the Channel 32 (UHF with a special rabbit ears coil antenna) games and Bob Fouts doing the Niners from Kezar. There was one game of the week on NBC with Lindsey Nelson calling and Red Grange doing color. There were a couple of other games on Dumont but not everybody saw them. CBS handled the NFL GOTW. Rozelle negotiated the contract that guaranteed that every home market in the NFL viewed their home team on CBS on the road. Local games were blacked out. NBC did a deal with the AFL.

Big Game was THE sports event in the Bay Area. The Saturday morning papers had many pages devoted to the game.

Kids actually played outside. We made up our own games, played football in the streets and went to Saturday matinees mostly to raise hell early and then to meet girls a bit later in adolescence. We didn't have the experience of growing up in the country shooting squirrels and swimming in ponds but we did know how to string cherry bombs together and how to lead a moving car with a dirt clod.

George Lamont was as entertaining (and sly) as anything on TV in that era. Rhode Island Red, Scat the Cat and Carl the Carrot made kids laugh and adults quietly chuckle at the ribald subtleties the kids didn't "get".  Closest thing on the air to the old Soupy Sales show (originating in NYC). Right there with You Bet Your Life (Groucho Marx).


Yeah, I remember Fireman Frank as well.  I think that is why I liked those tv shows - they didn’t talk down to kids.



RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Papa John - 11-17-2021

I grew up in Kansas with Whizzo the Clown...

Back to Big Game ticket sales, per wikipedia here are the home Big Game attendance numbers from 1991 through 2019:
1991 (old stadium, capacity circa 89k): 86,019 (Cal ranked #6, Stanford #21)
1993: 82,500
1995: 72,893
1997: 85,500
1999: 80,746
2001: 71,150 (Stanford #13)
2003: 67,950
2005: 71,743
2007 (new stadium, capacity reduced to circa 50k): 49,209
2009: 50,510 (Cal #25, Stanford #17)
2011: 50,360 (Stanford #8)
2013: 50,424 (Stanford #10)
2015: 51,424 (Stanford #15)
2017: 51,424 (Stanford #20)
2019: 48,904

It looks like interest in attending Big Game had already started to wane in the early 2000s. But attendance has been at or near 50k sellout at every home Big Game since the new stadium was built, even in the putrid 2019 season. This year's won-loss record will be equally or more putrid than 2019, but Big Game attendance will be worse (I'm talking butts in the seats). We'll see if this is a one-off occurrence or a pattern. Of course, I'm hoping for the former.


Chip.burns@glenborough.com - sunnyside sudser - 11-17-2021

Papa. Grew up in kc. Whizzo was big. I still remember parts of his theme song 50 years later.  “Whizzo the clown that’s who”.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - PVTree - 11-17-2021

In Chicago, it was Bozo's Circus with Bozo the Clown and Cookie the Clown. Mr. Ned as the ringmaster.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - winflop - 11-17-2021

(11-17-2021, 09:12 PM)PVTree Wrote:  In Chicago, it was Bozo's Circus with Bozo the Clown and Cookie the Clown. Mr. Ned as the ringmaster.

I have an authentic Bozo Button from going to the show live way back in the day


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Papa John - 11-17-2021

Yeah, Big Game attendance is boring.

We all watched Captain Kangaroo, right?


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - newguy - 11-18-2021

(11-17-2021, 10:08 PM)Papa John Wrote:  Yeah, Big Game attendance is boring.

We all watched Captain Kangaroo, right?

i sure did.
that's why we always bought Colgate toothpaste......with MFP fluoride!!!


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Phogge - 11-18-2021

Too old for Captain Kangaroo. I did watch Tennessee Tuxedo, another show with some subtle stuff for adults.

Louise Bliss was the voice of Crusader Rabbit. She also hosted the Birthday Show on KRON. Captain Fortune was on KPIX, a studio show with 16mm remote features starring Pete Abenheim and the immense Dick Camp usually sword fighting in Golden Gate Park. Bobbbbbbb K was the occasional victim who was covered in studio blood.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Giants - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 11:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Too old for Captain Kangaroo. I did watch Tennessee Tuxedo, another show with some subtle stuff for adults.

Louise Bliss was the voice of Crusader Rabbit. She also hosted the Birthday Show on KRON. Captain Fortune was on KPIX, a studio show with 16mm remote features starring Pete Abenheim and the immense Dick Camp usually sword fighting in Golden Gate Park. Bobbbbbbb K was the occasional victim who was covered in studio blood.

King Norman was another one from back in the day…

It was like Queen for a Day for kids.  A good friend of mine was picked to be on the show.  

Jay Ward was the brains behind Crusader Rabbit.  Later, he hit it big with Rocket J. Squirrel……


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - treetop11 - 11-18-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:47 PM)Papa John Wrote:  The worst Stanford football team in my lifetime--other than 2006--was the 1983 team. The Play had ruined John Elway's final game, true freshman John Paye was our QB and our opening game was versus #2 Oklahoma. We lost 14-27, but it wasn't for lack of effort. I remember Paul Wiggin, or maybe someone else, declaring that Stanford was the best 0-1 team in college football.

Then we traveled to Illinois and lost, but the defense kept it close. A Stanford coach declared that we were the best 0-2 team in the land.

We came back home and lost to SJSU. I think someone muttered that we were the best 0-3 team in the land.

Then we lost to ASU, UCLA and Washington before squeaking out a win over #19 Arizona. Which was followed by losses to OSU, Oregon, USC and Cal.

But back to the topic at hand. Per wikipedia, home attendance was:
62,778 vs #2 Oklahoma (Stanford 0-0 going into the game)
68,201 vs SJSU (0-2)
55,804 vs UCLA (0-4)
40,208 vs Arizona (0-6)
31,420 vs Oregon (1-8)
84,804!!!!! vs Cal (1-9)

Of course, this was the Big Game immediately following The Play. GaryT was featured prominently in the halftime show, so that must also have been a factor in the impressive rebound in attendance.

And I'm sure that Stanford was the best 1-10 team in college football that year.
I didn't bother to look it up, but I think that you got that Oklahoma score wrong. IIRC, we got totally smoked by the Sooners, possibly something like 42-0. I don't remember the actual score but I recall we got our butts kicked. I do well remember that I was at the game, got sunburned on the sunny side and that it was the first date with my wife!


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - 82lsju - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 01:03 PM)treetop11 Wrote:  I didn't bother to look it up, but I think that you got that Oklahoma score wrong. IIRC, we got totally smoked by the Sooners, possibly something like 42-0. I don't remember the actual score but I recall we got our butts kicked. I do well remember that I was at the game, got sunburned on the sunny side and that it was the first date with my wife!

September 10
No. 2 Oklahoma*
L 14–27
62,778


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Stanford_Cardinal_football_team


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - qwerty49 - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 11:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Too old for Captain Kangaroo. I did watch Tennessee Tuxedo, another show with some subtle stuff for adults.

Don Adams was the voice of Tennessee Tuxedo.

All I remember of Captain Fortune is he had a goatee I think.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Papa John - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 01:03 PM)treetop11 Wrote:  I didn't bother to look it up, but I think that you got that Oklahoma score wrong. IIRC, we got totally smoked by the Sooners, possibly something like 42-0. I don't remember the actual score but I recall we got our butts kicked. I do well remember that I was at the game, got sunburned on the sunny side and that it was the first date with my wife!

Hmm, I don't remember Stanford ever being routed by Oklahoma. Maybe before my time? In 1980, we defeated OU rather handily and I attended the game in Norman in 1984 where we lost by 12. The Sun Bowl with Toby Gerhart and Tavita-instead-of-Andrew was a close loss. Maybe in the 1970s?


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - 82lsju - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 04:54 PM)Papa John Wrote:  
(11-18-2021, 01:03 PM)treetop11 Wrote:  I didn't bother to look it up, but I think that you got that Oklahoma score wrong. IIRC, we got totally smoked by the Sooners, possibly something like 42-0. I don't remember the actual score but I recall we got our butts kicked. I do well remember that I was at the game, got sunburned on the sunny side and that it was the first date with my wife!

Hmm, I don't remember Stanford ever being routed by Oklahoma. Maybe before my time? In 1980, we defeated OU rather handily and I attended the game in Norman in 1984 where we lost by 12. The Sun Bowl with Toby Gerhart and Tavita-instead-of-Andrew was a close loss. Maybe in the 1970s?

9/9/78 OU 35 LSJU 29
9/27/80  OU 14 LSJU 31
9/10/83  OU 27 LSJU 14
9/8/84  OU 19 LSJU 7
12/31/09  OU 31 LSJU 27

http://www.winsipedia.com/games/oklahoma/vs/stanford


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - gailtate - 11-18-2021

(11-18-2021, 04:54 PM)Papa John Wrote:  
(11-18-2021, 01:03 PM)treetop11 Wrote:  I didn't bother to look it up, but I think that you got that Oklahoma score wrong. IIRC, we got totally smoked by the Sooners, possibly something like 42-0. I don't remember the actual score but I recall we got our butts kicked. I do well remember that I was at the game, got sunburned on the sunny side and that it was the first date with my wife!

Hmm, I don't remember Stanford ever being routed by Oklahoma. Maybe before my time? In 1980, we defeated OU rather handily and I attended the game in Norman in 1984 where we lost by 12. The Sun Bowl with Toby Gerhart and Tavita-instead-of-Andrew was a close loss. Maybe in the 1970s?


Stanford vs. O.U.
1978  29-31
1980  31-14
1983  14-27
1984    7-19
2009  27-31


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Phogge - 11-18-2021

1978 first game of season. Dils threw a Hail Mary on the last play. Knocked down. A number of passes to FB Phil Francis, one of the great unsung Stanfords.

1983 Steve Cottrell started and failed. Wiggin inserted Paye who threw for a lot of yards. Elvis Peacock of UO ran for a bunch.

1980 Elway in the rain. Big day for Oklahoma fumbles and big day for Andre Tyler. Nelson hurt, Dot and VDub outstanding.

And yes, Captain Fortune had a goatee.


RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - CardinalSagehen - 11-18-2021

I agree with everyone that attendance will not be great - maybe 50% of capacity - but for the record, it's not hard to sell your tickets if needed.  We are going out of town this weekend and can't attend.  I listed my three Section 116 tickets (15 yard-line, shady side) for $60/each on Stubhub (plus fees), and they were gone within 15 mins.  

I feel kind of badly about this next part, but after failing to monetize fully my own tickets, I then felt compelled to list the two free tell-a-friend tickets that Stanford gave all season ticket members.  Mine were in Section 120, in the corner.  Those two sold within a couple hours at $45/each. This was all on Tuesday night.  When I looked tonight, prices were even higher, although I suspect they might drop by tomorrow or Sat. 

I suffered through our home losses vs. UCLA, UW, and Utah. I'm not in the camp that claim they had a bad time. I enjoy the games, win or lose, but obviously more when we win. In fact, I even made my 13 year-old son and 78 year-old dad sit through the Utah game until the bitter end!  And I'm not even an alumnus, I'm exactly the type of lifelong Bay Area fan that they're dying to have. If, just hypothetically, Stanford were unhappy with me for offloading the free tix for money, they could go pound sand.  The email did not say we shouldn't.  Sorry, not sorry.  

On another note, I don't really understand why prices are relatively sticky when available inventory is so plentiful.  Maybe Stanford holds back some inventory to optimize pricing, utilizing the Stubhub platform?