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RE: Women's soccer player dies - Phogge - 03-03-2022
Today’s Chron article hits on a topic of concern that has entered every newsperson’s consciousnesses that I have worked with or worked around. Privacy vs “news.” The University was not making coaches and teammates available to reporters. IMO, a correct policy.
However the line is fuzzy and very hard to figure out sometimes, especially in a breaking news situation. In the current sadness I believe there is worth by taking an approach that can help other troubled youth by treating the event long term. The Chronicle has published some terrific enterprise journalism (homelessness, Tenderloin drug use). It’s time to tackle youth suicide openly. Perhaps Outside the Lines has already done this but I don’t watch ESPN. This topic should not be buried.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - 81alum - 03-03-2022
I've started half a dozen posts in response to this news and deleted them all. Nothing seems adequate to express my sadness.
I do wonder if youth suicide is more prevalent among some groups than others, and to what extent sport is ever involved. My thoughts go to Mikaela Brewer's eloquent writing and I wonder if there is a charity specific to the issue that we should donate to.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - Jamesy - 03-03-2022
There is a GoFundMe set up for the family if anyone is looking to help them out. https://www.gofundme.com/f/katie-meyer-memorial-fund?qid=e763e1178790fcec3ba29108f73afcbd
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - BigEasyCard - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 11:02 AM)Jamesy Wrote: There is a GoFundMe set up for the family if anyone is looking to help them out. https://www.gofundme.com/f/katie-meyer-memorial-fund?qid=e763e1178790fcec3ba29108f73afcbd
Thank you for posting the GoFundMe link.
Geaux Cardinal!
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - TonyLima - 03-03-2022
Here’s some of my research on deaths by cause of death broken into four age groups: 0-4, 5-9, 10-15, and 16-17. Starting with the 5-9 group, suicide increases steadily as a cause. My research on causes of death among kids
RE: Women's soccer player dies - gailtate - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 10:39 AM)Phogge Wrote: Today’s Chron article hits on a topic of concern that has entered every newsperson’s consciousnesses that I have worked with or worked around. Privacy vs “news.” The University was not making coaches and teammates available to reporters. IMO, a correct policy.
However the line is fuzzy and very hard to figure out sometimes, especially in a breaking news situation. In the current sadness I believe there is worth by taking an approach that can help other troubled youth by treating the event long term. The Chronicle has published some terrific enterprise journalism (homelessness, Tenderloin drug use). It’s time to tackle youth suicide openly. Perhaps Outside the Lines has already done this but I don’t watch ESPN. This topic should not be buried.
Second that emotion. I speak as someone who's been there and in whose family there is a medical history of depression and suicide. The more sunshine on this topic, as well as compassion and empathy, the healthier for everyone. Obfuscation in the name of privacy is, quite literally, DEADLY. It is outdated.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - winflop - 03-03-2022
My son is at Santa Clara. Last quarter they had 3 student suicides. This quarter they rolled out training for all students, faculty, and staff on mental health awareness that includes how to recognize signs that someone might be having mental health issues and some options for how to approach/engage them. I wish they had made the training MANDATORY, and I hope that Stanford does make it mandatory.
I also think at a national level we need some PSAs from celebrities who have struggled with mental health and how they overcame them. Like it or not, celebs reach kids. Within the Stanford community, it'd be great to have athletes do the same if they're willing.
We have to get over the hump of the negative stigma and we have to improve our ability to recognize when someone else might be struggling. Both a tough hills to climb, no doubt, but is there really an alternative?
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - 2006alum - 03-03-2022
I can't imagine the past two years has helped with all the COVID protocols that universities have had, the remote learning, the shuttling on and off campus, etc. Combine that with the state of the world in general lately, and it's been a pretty rough stretch for anyone's mental health, let alone young adults who are still settling, subject to hormonal volatility, and less experienced at dealing with adversity in general.
In terms of the pros and cons of disclosure versus keeping the manner of death vague/unanswered, I will say I'm a bit sympathetic to the families in these circumstances, especially in the days/weeks right after. Unfortunately suicides have run through one side of my family so I have more experience with them than I would wish on anyone, and one of the immediate difficulties is that the loved ones of the deceased feel so much shame, responsibility, guilt, and often a sense that it's "on them" that they didn't properly detect something, intervene, etc. It can take a lot of time, healing, and therapy for loved ones to come to a place of acceptance to get past the what ifs of "if only I had intervened" or "she seemed down one time but I just assumed..."
Especially in the immediate aftermath of a terrible, life-altering shock like this, I genuinely understand the family's desire not to have this information become public, which only foster a very public examination and second-guessing of "were there signs," "should Stanford have done more," etc. I guess I think the family's specific preferences here matter more than the general desire to avoid stigma around this issue. To that end, for my part, I try to talk very openly, and without shame, about the family history of suicide, but I'm also far enough removed from it now that it's much less uncomfortable to do so. But I wouldn't second-guess the family of a suicide victim in the immediate aftermath.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - BobK - 03-03-2022
Michaela Brewer former Stanford basketball has been on panels and written numberous articles on depression. From a personal viewpoint
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - Mick - 03-03-2022
Some articles on student athletes and depression.
Apparently, current athletes are more at risk for depression than retired collegiate athletes:
https://gumc.georgetown.edu/news-release/college-athletes-depression/
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - TrumpCard - 03-03-2022
(03-03-2022, 04:22 PM)2006alum Wrote: I can't imagine the past two years has helped with all the COVID protocols that universities have had, the remote learning, the shuttling on and off campus, etc. Combine that with the state of the world in general lately, and it's been a pretty rough stretch for anyone's mental health, let alone young adults who are still settling, subject to hormonal volatility, and less experienced at dealing with adversity in general.
In terms of the pros and cons of disclosure versus keeping the manner of death vague/unanswered, I will say I'm a bit sympathetic to the families in these circumstances, especially in the days/weeks right after. Unfortunately suicides have run through one side of my family so I have more experience with them than I would wish on anyone, and one of the immediate difficulties is that the loved ones of the deceased feel so much shame, responsibility, guilt, and often a sense that it's "on them" that they didn't properly detect something, intervene, etc. It can take a lot of time, healing, and therapy for loved ones to come to a place of acceptance to get past the what ifs of "if only I had intervened" or "she seemed down one time but I just assumed..."
Especially in the immediate aftermath of a terrible, life-altering shock like this, I genuinely understand the family's desire not to have this information become public, which only foster a very public examination and second-guessing of "were there signs," "should Stanford have done more," etc. I guess I think the family's specific preferences here matter more than the general desire to avoid stigma around this issue. To that end, for my part, I try to talk very openly, and without shame, about the family history of suicide, but I'm also far enough removed from it now that it's much less uncomfortable to do so. But I wouldn't second-guess the family of a suicide victim in the immediate aftermath.
There would be an unfair burden at first. But if we talked about mental health more, then I think, over time, we would see the stigma and shame around suicide decline. And, as important, I think we'd see more families actually help victims of depression get the medical help they need, so that there doesn't need to be second guessing about what could have been done.
I do, however, worry about suicide clusters. I understand there is data indicating that a suicide in a local community is associated with higher suicide rates in the future. I don't know whether vague news stories that don't really quash rumors ameliorate the risk of suicide clusters. I also lack the expertise to know whether there is a way to avoid that potential and unintended effect of publishing news stories about suicides.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - Phogge - 03-03-2022
There are things that sites can do. Have Twitter and Instagram banned body shaming?
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - BostonCard - 03-03-2022
Cause of death confirmed.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/kcbsradio/status/1499582404113178624?s=21[/tweet]
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RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - needle - 03-03-2022
I started reading the comments on the GoFundMe page and began tearing up after about a minute.
Only bright spot is that it's clear that her memory will shine brightly for those who knew her (and maybe even for some who didn't).
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - TonyLima - 03-04-2022
Katie’s parents speak.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - winflop - 03-04-2022
(03-04-2022, 10:23 AM)TonyLima Wrote: Katie’s parents speak.
Her mom mentions being notified of a disciplinary hearing as being a potential trigger, but that they really had no indication that she was in any kind of trouble that would lead to this.
I think there are two critical issues that Stanford and beyond need to deal with:
1. Reduce/remove the stigma of mental health issues. I'd really like to see a lot more celebrity PSAs around this. Not sure how else to really build more awareness and move the needle
2. More mental health awareness training. People need to be more attuned to recognizing the signs in others, and knowing how to approach/help them. In the wake of 3 student suicides in fall quarter, Santa Clara has brought someone in to offer classes. I told the provost that while it's a step in the right direction, they really need to make this training MANDATORY for all students, faculty, and staff. Stanford could - and IMHO should - take that next step
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - Phogge - 03-04-2022
Anne Killion hits it out of the park again in Friday’s Chron. Maybe Eric can link since I even flunked Luddite 1.
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - 2006alum - 03-04-2022
(03-04-2022, 10:44 AM)Phogge Wrote: Anne Killion hits it out of the park again in Friday’s Chron. Maybe Eric can link since I even flunked Luddite 1.
‘Her spirit is here’: Stanford soccer player Katie Meyer honored by basketball team
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - bl82 - 03-04-2022
Ann Killion on Katie
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/annkillion/article/Stanford-women-s-basketball-honors-Katie-Meyer-16976181.php
RE: WSOC Goalie Katie Meyer -- RIP - Beeg_Dawg - 03-04-2022
So very sad....
My thoughts expressed by her parents.
"The couple also questioned whether the immense pressure of being a collegiate athlete was too much for Katie, the team’s captain who helped Stanford win the 2019 NCAA women’s soccer championship."
Not just a collegiate athlete, but a Stanford student as well. Just being a student at Stanford comes with a lot pressure.