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RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - martyup - 01-05-2024
Missy looks downright skinny.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - SkiBum80 - 01-05-2024
TonyLima dateline='[url=tel:1704514388' Wrote: 1704514388[/url]']Exactly
On the other hand, having Brink shoot a three early in the possession may not be the winning strategy.
She made a 3 early in game
In hindsight maybe not good cause she’s now taken 3 more since all misses and I think probly we lost possession on most of em
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - martyup - 01-05-2024
12-0 run for Stanford. Having fun now!
9 point lead after 3 quarters. Brink picked up her 3rd foul with a couple of seconds remaining in the 3rd.
Jump played all 30 minutes of the game so far. She's a rock.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - Spiny_Norman - 01-05-2024
They run numerous (and often effective) screens on the perimeter for Leger-Walker. When Stanford switches, WSU then takes advantage of mismatches. Leger-Walker also has posted up Lepolo. Stanford has had to go big with Iriafen, Brink and Demetre to counter WSU's size.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - SkiBum80 - 01-05-2024
Memo to Cam:
Wide open 3?
Let Lepolo take it instead!
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - martyup - 01-05-2024
Brink has 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 blocks.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - Spiny_Norman - 01-05-2024
Stanford with 19 assists on 25 FGs so far. That's outstanding. Stanford also with 17 turnovers which is not outstanding.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - martyup - 01-05-2024
Nice 3rd and 4th quarters by Stanford. Not pretty, but a win by 9.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - Hieronymus - 01-05-2024
The number of offensive fouls called against vs. the opponent game after game after game is truly absurd. Corrupt. And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. WSU Friday 7pm - jonnyss - 01-05-2024
(01-05-2024, 09:14 PM)martyup Wrote: Missy looks downright skinny.
is that really missy? wow! looks like missy's haircut on someone completely different.
(01-05-2024, 09:39 PM)martyup Wrote: Brink has 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 blocks.
yes, and for me the play of the game was her interception mid-way through the 4th quarter. yes, i know it's called a "steal," but she looked like charvarius ward, soaring high on d, stretching up to grab the cross-court pass with both hands.
Hieronymus - Hieronymus - 01-05-2024
All right now though it got weird and close at the end. Refs covered the spread. I hope they were paid off well for the effort.
I have been very critical of Leoplo but her shooting has been brobdingnagian the last 2 games. She needs to take that though when she is less open.
Great second half from Brink but too many threes.
Bench was mostly pretty poor today besides Demetre who was good.
Bosgana just isn’t growing into the starters role. Her only stats were 1 turnover and 1 foul.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - jonnyss - 01-05-2024
(01-05-2024, 09:56 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - SkiBum80 - 01-05-2024
jonnyss dateline='[url=tel:1704518260' Wrote: 1704518260[/url]']Made no sense to me either
Hieronymus dateline='[url=tel:1704516995' Wrote: 1704516995[/url]']
And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
Unless there’s a sensible explanation I’m not aware of, I hope there’s some post game accountability for the refs
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - Hieronymus - 01-05-2024
jonnyss dateline='[url=tel:1704518260' Wrote: 1704518260[/url]']
Hieronymus dateline='[url=tel:1704516995' Wrote: 1704516995[/url]']
And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
If somebody off ball gets fouled while the shot is in the air and if it’s bonus time, that theoretically is a valid call. Of course, the shot wasn’t up when the screen contact occurred. It was minimal contact so a ticky ticky ticky tacky call at best. And you never see it actually called by officials who have any clue whatsoever short of the screener just got annihlated. Maybe on the box out where it is much more likely there is heavy contact, but almost never at the screen.
Edit. I forget if they got free throws or the ball. Same analysis applies. Only difference is bonus or not.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - 81alum - 01-05-2024
(01-05-2024, 10:17 PM)jonnyss Wrote:At the game, the announcer said the foul was after the shot. They reviewed it. Missy likes to review things. She does it once or twice a game.(01-05-2024, 09:56 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - Hieronymus - 01-05-2024
81alum dateline='[url=tel:1704519520' Wrote: 1704519520[/url]']
jonnyss dateline='[url=tel:1704518260' Wrote: 1704518260[/url]']At the game, the announcer said the foul was after the shot. They reviewed it. Missy likes to review things. She does it once or twice a game.
Hieronymus dateline='[url=tel:1704516995' Wrote: 1704516995[/url]']
And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
And yet still manages to get the calls wrong. Maybe she gets paid per minute, not per game.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - 2006alum - 01-05-2024
(01-05-2024, 10:38 PM)81alum Wrote:That call was so dubious to me - did not in any way, shape, or form look like the foul occurred after the shot. But Missy likes to make the game about her, and she did, all game long. The shame in a game like this is that WSU and Stanford play pretty clean ball, so this isn't even the kind of matchup where calling it close is important (which is to say, I'd always be glad to see Missy call a Colorado game!). And Pac-12 refs calling it close like this does nothing to help us prepare for the post-season when we go up against physical teams who play in conferences where they don't call the ticky tacky stuff *cough cough Ole' Miss cough cough*.(01-05-2024, 10:17 PM)jonnyss Wrote:At the game, the announcer said the foul was after the shot. They reviewed it. Missy likes to review things. She does it once or twice a game.(01-05-2024, 09:56 PM)Hieronymus Wrote: And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
(01-05-2024, 10:01 PM)jonnyss Wrote: is that really missy? wow! looks like missy's haircut on someone completely different.
Ozempic. It's not just for celebrities like Mindy Kaling anymore.
triangle2 - triangle2 - 01-05-2024
What a horrifying ref lineup. I thought things were going to be bad with Missy and Benny, but Robertson was by far the worst of the three tonight. Vomit quality officiating. See, e.g., Brink’s 2nd ‘foul’ in the second quarter, and the complete mystery foul on Iriafen with a couple of minutes left.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 vs. WSU 65 - TonyLima - 01-05-2024
(01-05-2024, 10:31 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote:jonnyss dateline='[url=tel:1704518260' Wrote: 1704518260[/url]']Made no sense to me either
Hieronymus dateline='[url=tel:1704516995' Wrote: 1704516995[/url]']
And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
Unless there’s a sensible explanation I’m not aware of, I hope there’s some post game accountability for the refs
Let me guess. You’re getting reasy to start a new career in stabdup.
(01-05-2024, 10:48 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:81alum dateline='[url=tel:1704519520' Wrote: 1704519520[/url]']
jonnyss dateline='[url=tel:1704518260' Wrote: 1704518260[/url]']At the game, the announcer said the foul was after the shot. They reviewed it. Missy likes to review things. She does it once or twice a game.
Hieronymus dateline='[url=tel:1704516995' Wrote: 1704516995[/url]']
And that 5 point play is embarrassing for the officials.
does anyone understand that? it wasn't a rebounding foul after the shot. nunu and the screener collided before the 3-point shot with no whistle and no foul signal. i thought it was a no-call or an illegal screen; but if there's a foul call on nunu, doesn't that wave off the shot? and given that there was no whistle, can you even review a play and call a foul later that you didn't call in real time? (except a flagrant or technical).
And yet still manages to get the calls wrong. Maybe she gets paid per minute, not per game.
Nah, just more time on our screens.
RE: WBB: Stanford 74 WSU 65 - 81alum - 01-05-2024
My takeaways from this game.
1) February 11 we play them in Pullman. We had better learn--a lot--from this game. We gave up sizable leads twice, and seemingly lost some of our composure. We need to learn to stay focused whether ahead or behind. Brink and Jump have that quality, and Lepolo and Demetre are developing it. The rest of the team needs to mature quickly.
2) CLW's three point shooting over the last six games: 0-1, 0-4, 0-5, 0-2, 0-4, 5-10. Without her breaking out of her slump against us WSU would not have been competitive tonight.
3) Missy AND Benny in the same game! No wonder the officiating was completely screwy. However, mull this over. We got 15 points from free throws, they got 4. Maybe we should be more circumspect.
4) Brink and Iriafen had great stat lines, but it did not show how difficult it was to consistently get the ball in to them. Yes, when we got it to them they usually scored, but many of those 17 turnovers were on efforts to get the ball to them in the crowded paint.
5) Lepolo is the hero of the game. 4-5 three point shooting, a second break-out game showing that the first was not a fluke.
6) Despite missing that first layup on the well-executed back door play, Demetre nevertheless had one of her better games this year. We needed that. I know that +/- is questionable for just one game, but it is eye-popping just the same. Our leader is Demetre at 26 and no one else makes it up to 10. Agara was -13. We have heard in chalk talks and at pressers how important Demetre's presence is, that she knows the offense and defense, that she is vocal, etc. So in ways that are not always obvious she is becoming the indispensable glue player.
7) Scoring and blocks aplenty for Brink, but also 18 rebounds. Zounds.
8) So many here wrung their hands about the point guard position for so long--but that is NOT our most unsettled position now. Bosgana is getting fewer minutes. She was down to 9 minutes tonight. Tara has been experimenting with lineups without her. Ogden has replaced her at times, at others it was Agara or Harriel. Clearly a number of players keep auditioning for the role, but no one has won it.
9) My greatest concern was the near melt-down at the end. A 15 point lead after the final TV timeout shrinks to 4, helped of course by that terrible call on the 5 point play. But that showed something of a lack of composure. When Demetre made her two freethrows with 55 seconds left we reasserted ourselves, but the WSU run from 4:22 to 0:55 was NOT a thing of beauty.