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RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 12-08-2022
(12-07-2022, 07:06 PM)Phogge Wrote: Giants, if you have seen a DL this college season that the Niners may have missed let them know. Not many sixth rounders like Jones around. Maybe a third rounder? Maybe one of those overachievers at Oregon State.
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RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BostonCard - 12-11-2022
[tweet]https://twitter.com/49ers/status/1602068138769539072?s=61&t=_pULRVxlTXnHYry5YwBvCA[/tweet]
Look who it is on the back end of that touchdown.
BC
Niners are up 28-0 at halftime. McCaffrey has that receiving touchdown, 81 yards rushing, and Brock Purdy is looking purdy (sorry, not sorry). He’s 14/18 for 185 yards and two Td’s. Defense is shutting out Brady and the Bucs.
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triangle2 - triangle2 - 12-11-2022
But, someone texted me that Deebo had a ‘goodbye season’ knee injury. Did anyone see it?
RE: triangle2 - BostonCard - 12-11-2022
(12-11-2022, 04:17 PM)triangle2 Wrote: But, someone texted me that Deebo had a ‘goodbye season’ knee injury. Did anyone see it?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1602071508452794369?s=61&t=_pULRVxlTXnHYry5YwBvCA[/tweet]
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More CMac…
[tweet]https://twitter.com/49ers/status/1602081646374637568?s=61&t=_pULRVxlTXnHYry5YwBvCA[/tweet]
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RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BobK - 12-11-2022
Deebo has a high ankle sprain
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BobK - 12-15-2022
Purdy is purdy good. However it’s the awesome defense. Great game so far
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - French Rage - 12-15-2022
Got to hand it to the 49ers front office, they did a great job picking a guy to replace Jimmy G in the coming seasons. And it only cost them a 7th round pick!
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BostonCard - 12-15-2022
MCCaffrey with another nice game; 99 yards rushing and a TD.
BC
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - lex24 - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 09:09 PM)BostonCard Wrote: MCCaffrey with another nice game; 99 yards rushing and a TD.
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108. But whose counting…. Awful lot of touches.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - gocard14 - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 08:28 PM)French Rage Wrote: Got to hand it to the 49ers front office, they did a great job picking a guy to replace Jimmy G in the coming seasons. And it only cost them a 7th round pick!
Lynchahans ability to waste first round picks is matched only their ability to draft first round talents in 5th-7th rounds.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BostonCard - 12-15-2022
I posted before the game was over.
BC
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 12-16-2022
I wonder what the Niners will do if they win the Super Bowl with Purdy as QB? Do they get rid of Trey Lance? Do they try to re-sign Garoppolo? Give Purdy a big contract extension?
Personally, I don't think they re-sign Garoppolo as anything but a backup. Too fragile and he'll be 32 next year. Might be interesting to keep Purdy as a starter, sign Garoppolo as a backup, and trade Trey Lance for two first round picks, if they can get it. Purdy's current contract tops out at $1.1 million in 2025.
Right now, they have just over $5 mms. in cap space. Garoppolo's hit is $34.9 mms. Once he comes off and either departs or re-ups at a smaller number, that will give the 49ers some breathing room.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Phogge - 12-16-2022
Two first round picks for Lance isn’t going to happen. He has a small body of work.
First Jimmy gets hurt, then Lance and then Purdy is questionable leaving an old traveler the option.
So... there is going to be some demand for Jimmy. You could roll the dice and sign him and when the QB’s start getting hurt in 2023 trade one of your three at a premium to a desperate team.
The cap is going way up next year.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - lex24 - 12-16-2022
(12-15-2022, 09:51 PM)gocard14 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 08:28 PM)French Rage Wrote: Got to hand it to the 49ers front office, they did a great job picking a guy to replace Jimmy G in the coming seasons. And it only cost them a 7th round pick!
Lynchahans ability to waste first round picks is matched only their ability to draft first round talents in 5th-7th rounds.
Didn’t miss on Bosa. They have assembled a team that may have more overall talent and depth then any team in NFL. Imagine this team with a Mahomes or Allen or Hurts.
Shanahan should be COY. Imagine him doing this without McDaniel…..
interesting stat. For his career CMac averages 114 yards from scrimmage a game. That is 4th in NFL history, behind some guy named Brown, Terrell Davis and Barry Sanders.
Bubba Paris was talking post game about him. Not that fast, not that big, all intangibles. Bubba obviously hasn’t watched him much……
(12-16-2022, 07:57 AM)Phogge Wrote: Two first round picks for Lance isn’t going to happen. He has a small body of work.
First Jimmy gets hurt, then Lance and then Purdy is questionable leaving an old traveler the option.
So... there is going to be some demand for Jimmy. You could roll the dice and sign him and when the QB’s start getting hurt in 2023 trade one of your three at a premium to a desperate team.
The cap is going way up next year.
Going to be very interesting. Playoffs are a different animal. Purdy has shown well. But not ready to annoint him yet. What this means is they will have two young QBs next year. Don’t know what JG will do. But I suspect he will look to sign multi year deal somewhere. There are a lot of teams that need a solid QB.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - gocard14 - 12-16-2022
(12-16-2022, 08:23 AM)lex24 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 09:51 PM)gocard14 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 08:28 PM)French Rage Wrote: Got to hand it to the 49ers front office, they did a great job picking a guy to replace Jimmy G in the coming seasons. And it only cost them a 7th round pick!
Lynchahans ability to waste first round picks is matched only their ability to draft first round talents in 5th-7th rounds.
Didn’t miss on Bosa. They have assembled a team that may have more overall talent and depth then any team in NFL. Imagine this team with a Mahomes or Allen or Hurts.
Shanahan should be COY. Imagine him doing this without McDaniel…..
interesting stat. For his career CMac averages 114 yards from scrimmage a game. That is 4th in NFL history, behind some guy named Brown, Terrell Davis and Barry Sanders.
Bubba Paris was talking post game about him. Not that fast, not that big, all intangibles. Bubba obviously hasn’t watched him much……
(12-16-2022, 07:57 AM)Phogge Wrote: Two first round picks for Lance isn’t going to happen. He has a small body of work.
First Jimmy gets hurt, then Lance and then Purdy is questionable leaving an old traveler the option.
So... there is going to be some demand for Jimmy. You could roll the dice and sign him and when the QB’s start getting hurt in 2023 trade one of your three at a premium to a desperate team.
The cap is going way up next year.
Going to be very interesting. Playoffs are a different animal. Purdy has shown well. But not ready to annoint him yet. What this means is they will have two young QBs next year. Don’t know what JG will do. But I suspect he will look to sign multi year deal somewhere. There are a lot of teams that need a solid QB.
Agreed. Niners would love to have Jimmy to compete with lance and Purdy, but realistically won’t want to spend the $$$, and Jimmy will want a situation where he’s the anointed starter (Carolina?)
We enter the year with lance and Purdy in competition and one will win. Interesting case of tangibles vs intangibles. I agree that Lance probably doesn’t have the trade value to make it worth our while to ship him out, and as this year showed you can’t have too many decent QBs. It will also be nice having a QB room with 2 cheap rookies given the pending Bosa and Aiyuk extensions. We definitely extend Bosa (expect around 30 mil AAV, 80 guaranteed). Not sure if we pay top dollar for Aiyuk.
Also don’t get me wrong. I’m a big Lynchahan fan. As you say they’ve assembled a very highly talented roster through smart drafting and signing. They’ve found an insane amount of value and top end talent in the back half of the draft. Just kinda funny that comes in spite of a pretty poor record with first round picks, where usually said talent comes from.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 12-16-2022
Bubba Paris was talking post game about him. Not that fast, not that big, all intangibles. Bubba obviously hasn’t watched him much……
I think ShanaLynch has done an excellent job drafting. Foster was a terrific pick, just a horrible human being. McGinchey wasn't a bad pick at all. Solomon Thomas a miss. Bosa and Samuel both were fantastic selections. Kinlaw perpetually hurt. Last year's draft was basically upside down. Elijah Mitchell is superb, Hufanga among the best safeties in the NFC, Lenoir is coming on, Moore is a decent tackle, Thomas is an okay DB (started out pretty good), Sermon didn't have what it takes, Banks has been having an excellent second year, and Trey Lance...who knows yet? As for this year's rookies, Jackson has done very, very well, as has Burford and Purdy. None of the others have made a dent...Womack was doing well until he got hurt. UDFA Mason has done well running.
I think Purdy will do very well in the playoffs. BTW, I definitely see why he dropped to the seventh round. His arm is average at best, he sprays it on occasion, he's low on most measurables. But he's stratospherically high on intangibles, good leader, works very hard, very smart, he's nimble and knows how to use his legs. Jury's out as to whether he's durable. And like Fred Warner's said, he's gone up against the best defense in the NFL for 14 weeks now, and he does it the right way; e.g., if a defender gets to him, he treats it like a sack. Add in Shanahan's genius, the best defense in football; McCaffrey, Samuel, Jennings, Aiyuk, Samuel, Mason and a pretty decent line...He'll do well.
Be curious to see if Garoppolo gets a multi year deal. He's sure getting hurt a lot, and he'll be 32 next year. Can't really throw to the sidelines any more. Good clubhouse guy. People still want him for multiple years as a starter? Maybe.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - French Rage - 12-16-2022
How much will the 49ers try in the last few games, versus focusing on getting healthy for the playoffs? With the division title, they're at worst a 4 seed; with the South being a mess, they're at worst a 3 seed. No one is catching the Eagles, so they could either be a 2 seed or a 3 seed. With Dallas winning the top WC and playing the South winner, it comes down to who of the Giants and the Commanders plays at SF or Minnesota (barring a late Seahawks or Lions run). That's pretty much a toss-up, as neither NY or WAS is more than mediocre. I guess it comes down to wanting the divisional round home game.
As a Commanders fan, it would be great for the 49ers to be packing it in when they come to town next weekend.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Phogge - 12-16-2022
One less game gives Deebo a chance to play. One less game is a hedge against somebody else getting hurt. No brainer, play hard.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - French Rage - 12-16-2022
(12-16-2022, 10:59 AM)Phogge Wrote: One less game gives Deebo a chance to play. One less game is a hedge against somebody else getting hurt. No brainer, play hard.
What outcome means one less game?
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - OutsiderFan - 12-16-2022
Brock Purdy is demonstrating the "conventional wisdom" applied to him does not apply.
We are conditioned to hearing teammates bloviate and heap hyperbolic praise on each other, so when Fred Warner said he had full confidence in Brock Purdy and nothing he does in games surprises him, many might have thought Warner was just pumping the guy up when he isn't that good. But sometimes players speak truth. Warner actually did and does have great confidence in Purdy in large part because he held his own against the #1 Defense in the NFL. Purdy has essentially started three games and has proven he is a bigger play maker than Garoppolo over that time.
He's beat O blitzes. He's beat zone blitzes. He's beat 3-man rush zone coverage. Will he beat every defense he faces? Remains to be seen. But what doesn't remain to be seen is if Purdy is as good as Garoppolo. If there was sentiment that the Niners were Super Bowl contenders with Garoppolo, they absolutely are with Purdy. I didn't buy the Niners being a Super Bowl contender with Garoppolo. To me, he's just too damn limited. But I do think the Niners can win the Super Bowl with Purdy.
The Niners don't need All-Pro level QB play to win given how dominant the Defense is, the run game, CMac, etc. They just need solid QB play, and maybe someone who can make a few plays out of nothing. This is Brock Purdy. Most impressively, he shows not even a hint that the stage and moment is too big for him. He has supreme confidence and he is not surprised by what he has done. He expects it.
It remains to be seen if Purdy can lead the team from behind on a must-score drive, but short of that, I see no reason to doubt him and his ability to get the Niners further than they would get with Garoppolo.