RE: Timelines -
Goose - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 10:11 AM)magnus Wrote: (04-24-2020, 10:02 AM)Genuine Realist Wrote: Quote:THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.
Faced with the challenge, I will post one more.
He's comparing the action of a potential medicine to a disinfectant, probably naively. He's not suggesting anyone inject disinfectant directly into their lungs.
The problem with the above quote is that there are a non-trivial amount of Americans that will follow up on _anything_ the President (any President) says (this can be stated for all political affiliations). That's why it's extra important that the President chooses their words carefully when speaking.
I believe that the fact there are people stupid enough to drink Lysol because they think the president recommended it is tragic all on it's own. That said, the fact that a president will utter stream of consciousness ideas in a public setting is incredibly irresponsible, period. The fact that this particular thought is one that by High School (at the latest) one should immediately recognize as absurd is a reflection on this presidents intellectual process. No way around that. Apparently he is just coming to grips with the idea of a "medication" but hasn't yet processed the difficulties in producing such a material.
RE: Timelines -
oldalum - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 10:50 AM)Goose Wrote: That said, the fact that a president will utter stream of consciousness ideas in a public setting is incredibly irresponsible, period.
According to an article yesterday, he usually doesn't attend the task force meetings before the daily press "briefings" and is just given some talking points shortly before the briefings start. He is mainly just winging it, and attends these briefings primarily because he enjoys jousting with the reporters which he thinks (probably correctly) earns him points with his base.
RE: Timelines -
burger - 04-24-2020
Debated putting this in the Humor thread, but it's more relevant here today
This is from
March 25th. These writers deserve an award.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1242899581924446212[/tweet]
RE: Timelines -
BostonCard - 04-24-2020
In Iran, about 300 or so people died from methanol poisoning after a rumor that spread that methanol could prevent or cure infection.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/in-iran-false-belief-a-poison-fights-virus-kills-hundreds
It's easy to dismiss that as "stupid Iranians", but that was not even a rumor that was endorsed by a head of state.
In the US, we've already had one person die from ingestion of aquarium grad chloroquine.
More importantly, the mixed messages undermine confidence in experts. It discourages people from following best practices that hopefully can keep the infection under control. It makes people think that our leaders are just tossing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks, so the average person will have no idea what to believe.
BC
RE: Timelines -
Farm93 - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 12:11 PM)burger Wrote: Debated putting this in the Humor thread, but it's more relevant here today
This is from March 25th. These writers deserve an award.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1242899581924446212[/tweet]
That tweet is too funny.
(04-24-2020, 11:06 AM)oldalum Wrote: (04-24-2020, 10:50 AM)Goose Wrote: That said, the fact that a president will utter stream of consciousness ideas in a public setting is incredibly irresponsible, period.
According to an article yesterday, he usually doesn't attend the task force meetings before the daily press "briefings" and is just given some talking points shortly before the briefings start. He is mainly just winging it, and attends these briefings primarily because he enjoys jousting with the reporters which he thinks (probably correctly) earns him points with his base.
That's got to be fake news from the nasty reporters in the lame stream media!!!
Obviously he is winging it. You can often see it in the facial expressions of the people standing around him even though they are trying hard to keep up their best poker faces.
It is so strange. I do worry that if the people around him are this ready to be group think, yes men types for these press briefings how will they help him navigate the USA through the challenges that will have to be addressed after congress and the fed stop issuing that mountain of money.
RE: Timelines -
Farm93 - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 01:41 PM)Farm93 Wrote: (04-24-2020, 12:11 PM)burger Wrote: Debated putting this in the Humor thread, but it's more relevant here today
This is from March 25th. These writers deserve an award.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1242899581924446212[/tweet]
That tweet is too funny.
(04-24-2020, 11:06 AM)oldalum Wrote: (04-24-2020, 10:50 AM)Goose Wrote: That said, the fact that a president will utter stream of consciousness ideas in a public setting is incredibly irresponsible, period.
According to an article yesterday, he usually doesn't attend the task force meetings before the daily press "briefings" and is just given some talking points shortly before the briefings start. He is mainly just winging it, and attends these briefings primarily because he enjoys jousting with the reporters which he thinks (probably correctly) earns him points with his base.
That's got to be fake news from the nasty reporters in the lame stream media!!!
Obviously he is winging it. You can often see it in the facial expressions of the people standing around him even though they are trying hard to keep up their best poker faces.
It is so strange. I do worry that if the people around him are this ready to be group think, yes men types for these press briefings how will they help him navigate the USA through the challenges that will have to be addressed after congress and the fed stop issuing that mountain of money.
Well, well, well, some thing final broke through as stopped the daily insanity.
I wonder if it was polling?
Perhaps his untenable sarcasm position about injecting disinfectants?
Maybe he wanted to make sure he finished up before day 2 of the NFL draft.
In any event today's COVID19 White House daily briefing was brief and did not include a Q&A session.
Hopefully next week it will be turn into a weekly briefing so that Dr. Fauci and others can spend more time coordinating the response and less time watching President Trump's multi-hour improv sessions.
RE: Timelines -
magnus - 04-25-2020
(04-24-2020, 10:50 AM)Goose Wrote: (04-24-2020, 10:11 AM)magnus Wrote: (04-24-2020, 10:02 AM)Genuine Realist Wrote: Quote:THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.
Faced with the challenge, I will post one more.
He's comparing the action of a potential medicine to a disinfectant, probably naively. He's not suggesting anyone inject disinfectant directly into their lungs.
The problem with the above quote is that there are a non-trivial amount of Americans that will follow up on _anything_ the President (any President) says (this can be stated for all political affiliations). That's why it's extra important that the President chooses their words carefully when speaking.
I believe that the fact there are people stupid enough to drink Lysol because they think the president recommended it is tragic all on it's own. That said, the fact that a president will utter stream of consciousness ideas in a public setting is incredibly irresponsible, period. The fact that this particular thought is one that by High School (at the latest) one should immediately recognize as absurd is a reflection on this presidents intellectual process. No way around that. Apparently he is just coming to grips with the idea of a "medication" but hasn't yet processed the difficulties in producing such a material.
Fox news has reported that state poison control call centers have seen an uptick in calls since Thursday.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/states-spike-poison-control-calls
Ugh