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RE: MLB Pitching trivia - Mick - 09-20-2020

None of the answers are Cy Young...


RE: MLB Pitching trivia - qwerty49 - 09-20-2020

Maybe one of those guys with Wash or Cle back in the day.  Wynn, Lemon.  I'll go with Early Wynn.


MLB Pitching trivia - Mick - 09-20-2020

Three pitchers have led their respective leagues in losses four times, a major league record.  Who are they?  Pedro Ramos (Senators, 1958-1961), Phil Niekro (Braves, 1977-1980) and Bobo Newsom ('34, Browns; '35, Browns & Senators; '41 Tigers; '45 Athletics)
And which two of them led the league in losses four years in a row (hint: one of them is a Hall of Fame pitcher)  Ramos and Niekro

Who is the only pitcher to lead the league in wins and losses in the same season?  Phil Niekro, 21-20 in 1979 as a 40 year old starter for the Atlanta Braves.

Which Cy Young winner holds the record for most losses in a season for a Cy Young winner? (hint: finished tied for 7th in the league for losses that year).  Hall of Famer Gaylord Perry went 24-16 for the Cleveland Indians in 1972.  

Only two World Series winning teams have had a starting rotation pitcher led the league in losses.  Name the pitchers and seasons.  2006, Jason Marquis lost 16 games (14-16) for the WS Champs St. Louis Cardinals.  He was left off of the postseason roster.  In 2012, Tim Lincecum lost 15 games (10-15) for the Giants, who won the WS.  Lincecum was on the post-season roster and pitched very well throughout the series.


NL Wild Card - OutsiderFan - 09-20-2020

After the Giants salvaged one win against the A’s this season in blowout fashion, we have effectively four teams vying for two spots

Phillies 27-26 (4 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Reds 27-27 (3 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Giants 26-26 (4 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-26 (3 Reds, 5 Cardinals)

It’s possible the Cardinals could fall apart and the Reds or Brewers move into 2nd place in NL Central, so the Cardinals fall into Wild Card. They have more games to play than anyone, and are only I game up on Reds and Brewers.

Having said all that, who gets the Wild Card spots? Will anyone get in at 29-31?


RE: NL Wild Card - Mick - 09-20-2020

(09-20-2020, 07:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  After the Giants salvaged one win against the A’s this season in blowout fashion, we have effectively four teams vying for two spots

Phillies 27-26 (4 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Reds 27-27 (3 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Giants 26-26 (4 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-26 (3 Reds, 5 Cardinals)i think

It’s possible the Cardinals could fall apart and the Reds or Brewers move into 2nd place in NL Central, so the Cardinals fall into Wild Card. They have more games to play than anyone, and are only I game up on Reds and Brewers.

Having said all that, who gets the Wild Card spots? Will anyone get in at 29-31?

I think the Phillies have the easiest time of it. Nationals aren't so good this year. Marlins in fifth place. Reds and Milwaukee play each other for three, then the Reds have #4 Minnesota, and the Brewers have #6 St. Louis. Giants have #4 Padres and out-of-it Colorado, all at home.

It's going to be close. I think it's the Phillies and whichever of the remaining three get hot.


lex24 - lex24 - 09-20-2020

Giants go 6-2 they are in.  5-3 probable.  Anything less doubtful.  I believe I heard they lose tiebreaker to Reds.  Not sure of others.  Also not sure what tiebreakers are.

(09-20-2020, 09:23 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Giants go 6-2 they are in.  5-3 probable.  Anything less doubtful.  They will look at winning Pct.  Cause games played will vary.  

I believe I heard they lose tiebreaker to Reds.  Not sure of others.  Also not sure what tiebreakers are.



RE: NL Wild Card - Giants - 09-20-2020

(09-20-2020, 07:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  After the Giants salvaged one win against the A’s this season in blowout fashion, we have effectively four teams vying for two spots

Phillies 27-26 (4 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Reds 27-27 (3 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Giants 26-26 (4 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-26 (3 Reds, 5 Cardinals)

It’s possible the Cardinals could fall apart and the Reds or Brewers move into 2nd place in NL Central, so the Cardinals fall into Wild Card. They have more games to play than anyone, and are only I game up on Reds and Brewers.

Having said all that, who gets the Wild Card spots? Will anyone get in at 29-31?

Philadelphia and Milwaukee hold the tiebreaker over SF (best record within their respective division).  SF must play 6-2 ball this week and hope for the best...

Note: Everyone will play 60 games unless something weird happens this week.


lex24 - lex24 - 09-20-2020

(09-20-2020, 09:25 PM)Giants Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 07:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  After the Giants salvaged one win against the A’s this season in blowout fashion, we have effectively four teams vying for two spots

Phillies 27-26 (4 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Reds 27-27 (3 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Giants 26-26 (4 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-26 (3 Reds, 5 Cardinals)

It’s possible the Cardinals could fall apart and the Reds or Brewers move into 2nd place in NL Central, so the Cardinals fall into Wild Card. They have more games to play than anyone, and are only I game up on Reds and Brewers.

Having said all that, who gets the Wild Card spots? Will anyone get in at 29-31?

Philadelphia and Milwaukee hold the tiebreaker over SF (best record within their respective division).  SF must play 6-2 ball this week and hope for the best...

Note: Everyone will play 60 games unless something weird happens this week.

I think Cardinals will play 58.  Pirates have been key.  Reds beat them 6 out of 7. Cards just swept 5.


RE: lex24 - Giants - 09-20-2020

(09-20-2020, 09:29 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 09:25 PM)Giants Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 07:54 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  After the Giants salvaged one win against the A’s this season in blowout fashion, we have effectively four teams vying for two spots

Phillies 27-26 (4 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Reds 27-27 (3 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Giants 26-26 (4 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-26 (3 Reds, 5 Cardinals)

It’s possible the Cardinals could fall apart and the Reds or Brewers move into 2nd place in NL Central, so the Cardinals fall into Wild Card. They have more games to play than anyone, and are only I game up on Reds and Brewers.

Having said all that, who gets the Wild Card spots? Will anyone get in at 29-31?

Philadelphia and Milwaukee hold the tiebreaker over SF (best record within their respective division).  SF must play 6-2 ball this week and hope for the best...

Note: Everyone will play 60 games unless something weird happens this week.

I think Cardinals will play 58.  Pirates have been key.  Reds beat them 6 out of 7. Cards just swept 5.

Correct.  I was referencing the four teams noted (Phils, Reds, Brewers and Giants).  I should have explained that in my note.


RE: lex24 - teejers1 - 09-21-2020

(09-20-2020, 11:19 PM)Giants Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 09:29 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 09:25 PM)Giants Wrote:  Philadelphia and Milwaukee hold the tiebreaker over SF (best record within their respective division).  SF must play 6-2 ball this week and hope for the best...

Note: Everyone will play 60 games unless something weird happens this week.

I think Cardinals will play 58.  Pirates have been key.  Reds beat them 6 out of 7. Cards just swept 5.

Correct.  I was referencing the four teams noted (Phils, Reds, Brewers and Giants).  I should have explained that in my note.

IF that occurs (not a given, and don't want to jinx things) - a big shout out to MLB for getting the regular season done, without a bubble.  That was about determination from the league office and discipline from the players and staff.  There were many naysayers in the commentarati, especially at the outset of the season when a couple teams reported outbreaks.  But MLB in its entirety persevered.  Kudos to all for getting this far.

P.S.  Congrats to the Giants for getting one against the A's.  May that be a springboard for the final 8 games . . .


RE: Off topic: MLB - OutsiderFan - 09-22-2020

Why was my NL Wild Card thread merged into this thread? It was specifically to talk about the teams competing for a NL wild card spot. This thread is an MLB catch all...

Anyway, the Phillies, Giants, Brewers, and Cardinals all lost Monday. Only the Reds won, so we have:

Reds 28-27 (2 Brewers, 3 Twins)
Phillies 27-27 (3 Nats, 3 Marlins)
Giants 26-27 (3 Rockies, 4 Padres)
Brewers 26-27 (2 Reds, 5 Cardinals)

I believe the Reds will be the #1 wild card as they have the best pitching and are on a roll of sorts having gone 8-2 in their last 10. The Phillies have the worst pitching of the remaining 3, but both the Brewers and Phillies have an Ace. The Giants don’t. Cueto getting blasted last night was quite telling.


OT: Cueto - lex24 - 09-22-2020

I like Cueto.  Love to watch him pitch.  But he mailed it in last night.  Disappointing to say the least.

As for the Giants, if I’m Kapler I’m going with my best healthy nine. To heck with platoons. OF of Dubon Ruf and Dickerson. No way Basabe should be starting down the stretch keep him around for being a light game defensive replacement or pinch runner. Maybe Slater can DH. But of course he’s hurt. He’s always hurt. What a tease. Gives you a little bursts where it looks like he can be a quality player and then either flames out or gets hurt.


RE: Off topic: MLB - BostonCard - 09-22-2020

(09-22-2020, 04:47 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Why was my NL Wild Card thread merged into this thread? It was specifically to talk about the teams competing for a NL wild card spot. This thread is an MLB catch all...

This has been addressed in the past.  Off topic posts are allowed on this board.  However, it is (fundamentally) a Stanford board, and a prolferation of off topic threads on the same general topic (i.e. the Giants) can be merged as they push Stanford-related topics.

BC


RE: OT: Cueto - BobK - 09-22-2020

Certainly disappointing last night but mailing it in Is a bit much.

We are in trouble now that’s for sure. Not looking good for the post season.


RE: OT: Cueto - Phogge - 09-22-2020

Boys, Cueto has to hit spots. Simple as that. To get to the Bigs you have to have stuff. To win you have to hit spots. Cueto looked like a waiter at Tadich’s bringing a plate of abalone to the table. Of course that was in the Sixties when there was still abalone.


RE: OT: Cueto - BobK - 09-22-2020

Some day sand dabs For this fan


RE: Off topic: MLB - Phogge - 09-22-2020

BC you are the Montgomery of Alamein on this board. He always wanted to "Tidy up" the battlefield and you like to "Tidy up" the threads. No value judgement implied.


RE: Off topic: MLB - BostonCard - 09-22-2020

(09-22-2020, 10:40 AM)Phogge Wrote:  BC you are the Montgomery of Alamein on this board. He always wanted to "Tidy up" the battlefield and you like to "Tidy up" the threads. No value judgement implied.

I wasn't the one who merged the threads, but I felt OF deserved to know why his thread was merged.

BC


RE: Off topic: MLB - Phogge - 09-22-2020

Oh come on. I was ready to ship you a British Field Marshal baton. I think you are better liked around here than SHAEF liked the "Dirty SOB" in Patton's words.


RE: Off topic: MLB - BostonCard - 09-22-2020

(09-22-2020, 11:44 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Oh come on. I was ready to ship you a British Field Marshal baton. I think you are better liked around here than SHAEF liked the "Dirty SOB" in Patton's words.

LOL, thanks for the compliment, I think...

BC