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RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - 81alum - 12-06-2020

My takeaways from this game:

1) Jones took many shots that were not exactly open, and often from that analytics-red-zone of the mid range, but they all went in. Can she do this consistently every game or was she having an unusually good day? 29 points on 14/15 shooting--and the miss was a three point effort. Add 13 rebounds to that. If this is the everyday Jones then we really do have a superstar. If this was just a good day then we have a star.

2) Jump is so, so streaky. She missed and missed and missed and then hit four. Just like last year. It really is like a sniper adjusting for range. What this means is she needs to be permitted to stay in and miss several before her shooting pays off.

3) Van Gytenbeek looked like she was trying too hard and pushing beyond herself at first--but then I look at the stat sheet and see she led the team with 5 assists and had only 2 turnovers. I still think she has some maturing to do.

4) Belibi just continues to convince. But she does need to improve her free throws if she is going to be banging in the paint.

5) Kiana is in a slump. 1/12 today. It is almost as if she shoots best when there is a sense of urgency and everything depends upon her. Now that she is surrounded with so much talent, her shots are not going in.

6) Brink got better the longer she was in the game, but 3/10 with 2 fouls and a turnover in 10 minutes leaves room for improvement. She will, I have no doubt (improve.)

7) I continue to like Prechtel. At this point, in a tight game I want her in the game rather than Brink. She is strong, does not get flustered, and is reliable when she has open looks. They both can sink the three, which is an amazing luxury, giving them a dimension that Belibi lacks.

8) We crushed Washington chiefly with our rebounding. 25 O-boards. My goodness.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - chimera - 12-06-2020

A bit of a sloppy game at times and yes, rough three-point shooting, but given the crazy circumstances of the season, the big arena that may be harder to shoot in at first, and the fact that it was such a blowout early mitigates some of the sloppiness. Jones is fantastic, and Belibi is vastly improved. I am not worried about Williams. She has had these games where she seems out of sync her whole career. They usually happen in games we don't need much from her like today. I don't mind all the threes that much either. They were almost all very open shots by good shooters. Just a bad shooting day.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - M T - 12-06-2020

Each quarter, Stanford had as many or more rebounds of our missed shots than Washington did.

The foul calls were heavily in Stanford's favor in that first quarter (7-3) when it was a close game, and even after that (7-7). Stanford had no FTA after the first quarter.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - CompSci87 - 12-06-2020

Off topic: I'm watching Baylor vs. Arkansas. Carrington is in and I saw her take a charge and hit a 3. Close game 32-32 with 2:55 left in the 2nd. Destiny Slocum playing for Arkansas.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BosCard - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 04:51 PM)M T Wrote: Each quarter, Stanford had as many or more rebounds of our missed shots than Washington did.

The foul calls were heavily in Stanford's favor in that first quarter (7-3) when it was a close game, and even after that (7-7). Stanford had no FTA after the first quarter.

Last year this would have been a game we lost or squeaked out a last minute win. Our top two scorers from last year had a bad shooting game, going 2 for 18 from the field. These kinds of games happen when you are overly reliant on the three. But thankfully we have other options and thankfully Haley Jones is amazing. And Belibi played pretty well too.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - TheFarm07 - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 04:50 PM)81alum Wrote: My takeaways from this game:

1) Jones took many shots that were not exactly open, and often from that analytics-red-zone of the mid range, but they all went in. Can she do this consistently every game or was she having an unusually good day? 29 points on 14/15 shooting--and the miss was a three point effort. Add 13 rebounds to that. If this is the everyday Jones then we really do have a superstar. If this was just a good day then we have a star.

2) Jump is so, so streaky. She missed and missed and missed and then hit four. Just like last year. It really is like a sniper adjusting for range. What this means is she needs to be permitted to stay in and miss several before her shooting pays off.

3) Van Gytenbeek looked like she was trying too hard and pushing beyond herself at first--but then I look at the stat sheet and see she led the team with 5 assists and had only 2 turnovers. I still think she has some maturing to do.

4) Belibi just continues to convince. But she does need to improve her free throws if she is going to be banging in the paint.

5) Kiana is in a slump. 1/12 today. It is almost as if she shoots best when there is a sense of urgency and everything depends upon her. Now that she is surrounded with so much talent, her shots are not going in.

6) Brink got better the longer she was in the game, but 3/10 with 2 fouls and a turnover in 10 minutes leaves room for improvement. She will, I have no doubt (improve.)

7) I continue to like Prechtel. At this point, in a tight game I want her in the game rather than Brink. She is strong, does not get flustered, and is reliable when she has open looks. They both can sink the three, which is an amazing luxury, giving them a dimension that Belibi lacks.

8) We crushed Washington chiefly with our rebounding. 25 O-boards. My goodness.

81alum, are you not doing your usual beginning of thread, game/quarter analysis/recap you do after the game? Always looked forward to reading them after the game.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - WBB fan - 12-06-2020

If anyone other than Haley Jones is Pac-12 player of the week, we should demand a recount. And Fran, she really was in there, really promising for a great season for her to come.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - teejers1 - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 04:50 PM)81alum Wrote: My takeaways from this game:

1) Jones took many shots that were not exactly open, and often from that analytics-red-zone of the mid range, but they all went in. Can she do this consistently every game or was she having an unusually good day? 29 points on 14/15 shooting--and the miss was a three point effort. Add 13 rebounds to that. If this is the everyday Jones then we really do have a superstar. If this was just a good day then we have a star.

2) Jump is so, so streaky. She missed and missed and missed and then hit four. Just like last year. It really is like a sniper adjusting for range. What this means is she needs to be permitted to stay in and miss several before her shooting pays off.

3) Van Gytenbeek looked like she was trying too hard and pushing beyond herself at first--but then I look at the stat sheet and see she led the team with 5 assists and had only 2 turnovers. I still think she has some maturing to do.

4) Belibi just continues to convince. But she does need to improve her free throws if she is going to be banging in the paint.

5) Kiana is in a slump. 1/12 today. It is almost as if she shoots best when there is a sense of urgency and everything depends upon her. Now that she is surrounded with so much talent, her shots are not going in.

6) Brink got better the longer she was in the game, but 3/10 with 2 fouls and a turnover in 10 minutes leaves room for improvement. She will, I have no doubt (improve.)

7) I continue to like Prechtel. At this point, in a tight game I want her in the game rather than Brink. She is strong, does not get flustered, and is reliable when she has open looks. They both can sink the three, which is an amazing luxury, giving them a dimension that Belibi lacks.

8) We crushed Washington chiefly with our rebounding. 25 O-boards. My goodness.

Random comments on game and otherwise:

1. The depth on this team continues to amaze;

2. If I were forced to take a single Stanford WBB player to start a team to hold the outside court, I'd take Nneka over Jones and Folkl. Having said that, Jones is the most accomplished mid-range-and-in shooter the program has ever seen! And don't be fooled by the high make % in today's game against UW - a lot of those shots were high degree of difficulty that Jones makes seemingly effortlessly. She has incredible touch on runners, floaters, and takes to the rack - whether the ball is shot at 0 feet, 2 feet, 5-feet, or 10-feet. Truly remarkable.

3. I watched only a little of UCLA and Arizona, but here's my story on the Pac: it's Stanford and Oregon in one tier, and everyone else fighting for third place.

4. Brink's reach and length is amazing. A couple times she literally reached over her opponent for a rebound and snatched it. Moreover, I think her relative slightness helps her with the zebras because when most people go over the back you see a visible jolt to the opponent somewhere. But Brink just nestles up - no impact on defender - and snags the ball. Or stated differently, a lot of other players might get whistled for over the back fouls on a few of Brink's rebounds, but she picked them pretty cleanly . . . or so it appeared.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BostonCard - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 05:37 PM)WBB fan Wrote: If anyone other than Haley Jones is Pac-12 player of the week, we should demand a recount. And Fran, she really was in there, really promising for a great season for her to come.

Should be about the easiest PoW picks since Catarina Macario won them in consecutive weeks a year ago with jaw dropping stats.

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BobK - 12-06-2020

Arkansas beats Baylor. Carrington with 24

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - TheFarm07 - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 04:53 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: Off topic: I'm watching Baylor vs. Arkansas. Carrington is in and I saw her take a charge and hit a 3. Close game 32-32 with 2:55 left in the 2nd. Destiny Slocum playing for Arkansas.

Carrington leads all scorers with 24 pts on 8/16 shooting, 5 rebounds and 3 steals in a losing effort to Arkansas. Her best game so far in a Baylor uniform as she scored 11 pts and 4 pts in the Bears' first two games, all coming off the bench.

Slocum had 14 pts on 3/9 shooting with 7 rebounds and 2 assists.

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BostonCard - 12-06-2020

Is Slocum on her third school?

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - biketoc - 12-06-2020

Yep

(12-06-2020, 06:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Is Slocum on her third school?

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BobK - 12-06-2020

Well Slocum committed to Washington but went to Maryland then Oregon State now Arkansas whose coach was the Washington coach when she first committed

A journey

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BostonCard - 12-06-2020

I hope she finds what she’s looking for.

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - jonnyss - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 05:57 PM)teejers1 Wrote:
(12-06-2020, 04:50 PM)81alum Wrote: My takeaways from this game:

1) Jones took many shots that were not exactly open, and often from that analytics-red-zone of the mid range, but they all went in. Can she do this consistently every game or was she having an unusually good day? 29 points on 14/15 shooting--and the miss was a three point effort. Add 13 rebounds to that. If this is the everyday Jones then we really do have a superstar. If this was just a good day then we have a star.

2) Jump is so, so streaky. She missed and missed and missed and then hit four. Just like last year. It really is like a sniper adjusting for range. What this means is she needs to be permitted to stay in and miss several before her shooting pays off.

3) Van Gytenbeek looked like she was trying too hard and pushing beyond herself at first--but then I look at the stat sheet and see she led the team with 5 assists and had only 2 turnovers. I still think she has some maturing to do.

4) Belibi just continues to convince. But she does need to improve her free throws if she is going to be banging in the paint.

5) Kiana is in a slump. 1/12 today. It is almost as if she shoots best when there is a sense of urgency and everything depends upon her. Now that she is surrounded with so much talent, her shots are not going in.

6) Brink got better the longer she was in the game, but 3/10 with 2 fouls and a turnover in 10 minutes leaves room for improvement. She will, I have no doubt (improve.)

7) I continue to like Prechtel. At this point, in a tight game I want her in the game rather than Brink. She is strong, does not get flustered, and is reliable when she has open looks. They both can sink the three, which is an amazing luxury, giving them a dimension that Belibi lacks.

8) We crushed Washington chiefly with our rebounding. 25 O-boards. My goodness.

Random comments on game and otherwise:

1. The depth on this team continues to amaze;

2. If I were forced to take a single Stanford WBB player to start a team to hold the outside court, I'd take Nneka over Jones and Folkl. Having said that, Jones is the most accomplished mid-range-and-in shooter the program has ever seen! And don't be fooled by the high make % in today's game against UW - a lot of those shots were high degree of difficulty that Jones makes seemingly effortlessly. She has incredible touch on runners, floaters, and takes to the rack - whether the ball is shot at 0 feet, 2 feet, 5-feet, or 10-feet. Truly remarkable.

3. I watched only a little of UCLA and Arizona, but here's my story on the Pac: it's Stanford and Oregon in one tier, and everyone else fighting for third place.

4. Brink's reach and length is amazing. A couple times she literally reached over her opponent for a rebound and snatched it. Moreover, I think her relative slightness helps her with the zebras because when most people go over the back you see a visible jolt to the opponent somewhere. But Brink just nestles up - no impact on defender - and snags the ball. Or stated differently, a lot of other players might get whistled for over the back fouls on a few of Brink's rebounds, but she picked them pretty cleanly . . . or so it appeared.

i think jennifer azzi would be my first pick. 7 assists per game, 45% from 3. and we have yet to see haley against top competition. jennifer and candice were rock-solid in hard games. if haley can play like this against uconn and s carolina - or even again oregon and ucla...

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - BobK - 12-06-2020

Davis cancelled their game at home today and at sac state on Tuesday. The future doesn’t look good to play Stanford

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - JJJ - 12-06-2020

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordWBB/status/1335778792158023684?s=20[/tweet]

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - 81alum - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 08:19 PM)JJJ Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordWBB/status/1335778792158023684?s=20[/tweet]

And note that the miss was a three pointer from the corner. She was 100% inside 20'9"

RE: WBB: Stanford 83 Washington 50 - teejers1 - 12-06-2020

(12-06-2020, 08:46 PM)81alum Wrote:
(12-06-2020, 08:19 PM)JJJ Wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordWBB/status/1335778792158023684?s=20[/tweet]
And note that the miss was a three pointer from the corner. She was 100% inside 20'9"

Real-time, that play was literally the only time I was calling for something else while watching Jones play. Was calling for "right back" real time (which in this case, was a pass back to Jump at the left win trey spot). The quick pass back against a zone D is one of the most under-rated/appreciated offensive moves a team can make. Jump passes to corner to Jones, and if she passes back, then Jump has a WIDE OPEN look.
But given Jones was probably in heat check mode, it's not very high on the "not the greatest choice" list, in this game or this season.