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RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - jfredmuggs - 05-27-2021
If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it. It’s also possible that Stanford crafted a full time masters program just for her, but that doesn’t sound like something they would do. I’m sure this all been worked out already, but I’m curious. FWIW, admission to the program is described as highly competitive, so it’s not one of Stanford Continuing Education programs that are open to all comers.
Hamilton seems to have played very well in big games if you check her stats, and she has a ton of experience, so she could be a real asset. But I note that she shot threes at about a 26% clip her senior year, which is not good. She started out in the mid thirties freshman year and got worse every year. I wonder what’s up with that.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - jonnyss - 05-27-2021
(05-27-2021, 01:33 PM)jfredmuggs Wrote: If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it.
hush...be vewy vewy quiet.... ; ^ )
kiki iriafen - jonnyss - 05-31-2021
kiki scores 37 w 24 rebounds in a playoff victory.
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unfortunately, all the stories with details seem to be behind paywalls.
RE: kiki iriafen - WBB fan - 05-31-2021
(05-31-2021, 03:28 PM)jonnyss Wrote: kiki scores 37 w 24 rebounds in a playoff victory.
link
unfortunately, all the stories with details seem to be behind paywalls.
Wow! So looking forward to seeing her, and the other incoming folk, next year!
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - SamuelMcF - 05-31-2021
(05-27-2021, 01:33 PM)jfredmuggs Wrote: If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it. It’s also possible that Stanford crafted a full time masters program just for her, but that doesn’t sound like something they would do. I’m sure this all been worked out already, but I’m curious. FWIW, admission to the program is described as highly competitive, so it’s not one of Stanford Continuing Education programs that are open to all comers.
You cannot enroll in more than two MLA SEMINARS per quarter or three MLA SEMINARS in two consecutive quarters. Not any "classes." Seems easy to get around by taking a course in another department/a non-MLA seminar each quarter to then be above 9 units and considered full-time. Everyone wants to take CS 106A anyways, no?
While obtaining the MLA degree in one year (or less than four) is indeed impossible per the rules, it's plausible she will finish it after her student-athlete career is over, as it will continue to be very much part-time as discussed.
All in all, I'm very intrigued by this and hope the football offices are paying attention.
mtaguchi@yahoo.com - Griffins78 - 05-31-2021
(05-31-2021, 03:28 PM)jonnyss Wrote: kiki scores 37 w 24 rebounds in a playoff victory.LA Times story says, “Kiki Iriafen and Alyssa Thompson will one day be household names in basketball and soccer. Right now, they are classmates at Studio City Harvard-Westlake, but they soon will be headed to Stanford.”
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unfortunately, all the stories with details seem to be behind paywalls.
RE: mtaguchi@yahoo.com - Jskass - 06-01-2021
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Quote:LA Times story says, “Kiki Iriafen and Alyssa Thompson will one day be household names in basketball and soccer. Right now, they are classmates at Studio City Harvard-Westlake, but they soon will be headed to Stanford.”
so another article says that Thompson is a sophomore soccer star who YES has committed to Stanford.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - Card10Fan - 06-01-2021
https://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/2021/05/oregon-ducks-womens-basketball-set-to-host-collection-of-nations-best-prospects-in-june.html
Oregon is hosting a slew of top recruits on campus this month. Does anyone know if Stanford is planning to host any recruits in June? I assume the players and coaches will be around for a few more weeks and then everyone scatters for the summer.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - BobK - 06-01-2021
Stanford women’s basketball normally has its official visits once school starts
Of course many come to summer camps.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - CompSci87 - 06-02-2021
This story mentions 2023 Mia Davis from Arizona as receiving interest from Stanford.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/2021/06/01/xavier-preps-davis-transfers-dream-city-christian-girls-basketball/7497449002/
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - BostonCard - 06-02-2021
(05-31-2021, 04:40 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(05-27-2021, 01:33 PM)jfredmuggs Wrote: If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it. It’s also possible that Stanford crafted a full time masters program just for her, but that doesn’t sound like something they would do. I’m sure this all been worked out already, but I’m curious. FWIW, admission to the program is described as highly competitive, so it’s not one of Stanford Continuing Education programs that are open to all comers.
You cannot enroll in more than two MLA SEMINARS per quarter or three MLA SEMINARS in two consecutive quarters. Not any "classes." Seems easy to get around by taking a course in another department/a non-MLA seminar each quarter to then be above 9 units and considered full-time. Everyone wants to take CS 106A anyways, no?
While obtaining the MLA degree in one year (or less than four) is indeed impossible per the rules, it's plausible she will finish it after her student-athlete career is over, as it will continue to be very much part-time as discussed.
All in all, I'm very intrigued by this and hope the football offices are paying attention.
I guess we will see. I wouldn’t want this used to sidestep the idea that graduate transfers should be graduate students. If it turns out that this mechanism is abused to enable a graduate transfer but the student athletes bail on the four year commitment to getting their MfA, I would just as soon the loophole be closed.
BC
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - PalmTree - 06-02-2021
(06-02-2021, 01:06 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(05-31-2021, 04:40 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(05-27-2021, 01:33 PM)jfredmuggs Wrote: If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it. It’s also possible that Stanford crafted a full time masters program just for her, but that doesn’t sound like something they would do. I’m sure this all been worked out already, but I’m curious. FWIW, admission to the program is described as highly competitive, so it’s not one of Stanford Continuing Education programs that are open to all comers.
You cannot enroll in more than two MLA SEMINARS per quarter or three MLA SEMINARS in two consecutive quarters. Not any "classes." Seems easy to get around by taking a course in another department/a non-MLA seminar each quarter to then be above 9 units and considered full-time. Everyone wants to take CS 106A anyways, no?
While obtaining the MLA degree in one year (or less than four) is indeed impossible per the rules, it's plausible she will finish it after her student-athlete career is over, as it will continue to be very much part-time as discussed.
All in all, I'm very intrigued by this and hope the football offices are paying attention.
I guess we will see. I wouldn’t want this used to sidestep the idea that graduate transfers should be graduate students. If it turns out that this mechanism is abused to enable a graduate transfer but the student athletes bail on the four year commitment to getting their MfA, I would just as soon the loophole be closed.
BC
I'd have to agree - this just doesn't seem to pass the eyeball test & I work in a dean's office....
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - Card10Fan - 06-03-2021
Jennah Isai commits to Oregon. Our remaining 22 target list continues to shrink.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - BobK - 06-03-2021
Darn. I liked Isai. Guess I’ll get to see her a lot however
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - 82lsju - 06-03-2021
(06-02-2021, 05:39 PM)PalmTree Wrote:(06-02-2021, 01:06 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(05-31-2021, 04:40 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(05-27-2021, 01:33 PM)jfredmuggs Wrote: If Hamilton will enroll in Stanford’s Master of Liberal Arts program I don’t understand how she will be eligible. It is by rule and definition a part-time program. You cannot enroll in more than two classes per quarter or more than three classes in any two consecutive quarters, and the program cannot be completed in less than four years. The NCAA requires that you be a full time student, which means at least 12 units for undergrads or 9 units for a grad student; so this program won’t work. I guess it’s possible that a different master of liberal arts program may exist at Stanford, but I couldn’t find it. It’s also possible that Stanford crafted a full time masters program just for her, but that doesn’t sound like something they would do. I’m sure this all been worked out already, but I’m curious. FWIW, admission to the program is described as highly competitive, so it’s not one of Stanford Continuing Education programs that are open to all comers.
You cannot enroll in more than two MLA SEMINARS per quarter or three MLA SEMINARS in two consecutive quarters. Not any "classes." Seems easy to get around by taking a course in another department/a non-MLA seminar each quarter to then be above 9 units and considered full-time. Everyone wants to take CS 106A anyways, no?
While obtaining the MLA degree in one year (or less than four) is indeed impossible per the rules, it's plausible she will finish it after her student-athlete career is over, as it will continue to be very much part-time as discussed.
All in all, I'm very intrigued by this and hope the football offices are paying attention.
I guess we will see. I wouldn’t want this used to sidestep the idea that graduate transfers should be graduate students. If it turns out that this mechanism is abused to enable a graduate transfer but the student athletes bail on the four year commitment to getting their MfA, I would just as soon the loophole be closed.
BC
I'd have to agree - this just doesn't seem to pass the eyeball test & I work in a dean's office....
my recollection from an NCAA report a couple of years ago was that the graduation rate for grad transfers was not particularly high overall, women's basketball was better than football or men's basketball but as I recall was still significantly under 50%. The report was posted on the Cardboard but I could not find it here or on the NCAA site
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - BostonCard - 06-03-2021
(06-03-2021, 04:13 PM)82lsju Wrote: my recollection from an NCAA report a couple of years ago was that the graduation rate for grad transfers was not particularly high overall, women's basketball was better than football or men's basketball but as I recall was still significantly under 50%. The report was posted on the Cardboard but I could not find it here or on the NCAA site
Oh yeah, it is bad. But I think Stanford has higher standards, and is already pretty strict with regard to graduate admissions. If graduate transfers start flaking on their academic commitments, then I think an already very restrictive environment will become harder than Cal going to the Rose Bowl.
BC
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - 82lsju - 06-03-2021
(06-03-2021, 07:11 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(06-03-2021, 04:13 PM)82lsju Wrote: my recollection from an NCAA report a couple of years ago was that the graduation rate for grad transfers was not particularly high overall, women's basketball was better than football or men's basketball but as I recall was still significantly under 50%. The report was posted on the Cardboard but I could not find it here or on the NCAA site
Oh yeah, it is bad. But I think Stanford has higher standards, and is already pretty strict with regard to graduate admissions. If graduate transfers start flaking on their academic commitments, then I think an already very restrictive environment will become harder than Cal going to the Rose Bowl.
BC
it would be interesting to look up in the SAA database the grad transfers in to see how many actually got a graduate degree....
to do that we'd need a list of all the inbound grad transfers (or at least a partial list)
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - ca245 - 06-03-2021
Most grad transfers have one year of eligibility left. If the SA enrolls in a multi-year graduate program, after playing that one year, (a) schools that care about graduation rates no longer have an official "hook" to check on the SA's academic progress and (b) schools that don't care about graduation rates will be happy to wash their hands off the matter.
Transfer Portal Important - Mudhead - 06-04-2021
(06-03-2021, 08:12 PM)ca245 Wrote: Most grad transfers have one year of eligibility left. If the SA enrolls in a multi-year graduate program, after playing that one year, (a) schools that care about graduation rates no longer have an official "hook" to check on the SA's academic progress and (b) schools that don't care about graduation rates will be happy to wash their hands off the matter.
Figuring out the transfer portal is very important for Stanford. Like it or not, and in full disclosure i don’t, it is here and here to stay. It will either be a negative to Stanford Women’s basketball as it steadily drains depth as slower developing or “play me now” players move, or provide an important Avenue to fill gaps in our talent. The former will happen and that’s a fact.
If Stanford can find a way to take advantage of the value of a Stanford degree or of a year spent here, we would be a prime landing place for women who may not see a career in the WNBA or who want a year of play with a top team to get there . You won’t get Brianna Stewart’s this way but you could get Jordan Hamilton’s and that will give coaches another tool to replenish transfer stock or fill gaps.
This transfer in is an important step for the future of Stanford Women’s basketball. Not because of the talent of Hamilton ( pretty darn good IMHO) but as a signal to all graduating Srs with eligibility left to be sure and call Stanford.
RE: Women's Basketball Recruiting - CardinalWBBFan - 06-04-2021
There are a lot of really good 2022 recruits in the state of California whose stock has been rising over the past few months. As BobK has noted, not a lot of the Cal Stars and Cal Storm players were seen last year because of COVID-19.
There is certainly some interest in Hannah Stines, who already holds offers from Utah, Colorado, and Washington and has cracked the national rankings (#33 on ESPN; #39 on ASGR), but there are a few other players who would also be very nice gets for Stanford.
Stanford reached out to one of Bay City Girls Basketball's players last September (when coaches could begin calling 2022s), and it was likely for 5-11 guard Elle Ladine who now attends Pinewood. She also now plays for Team Taurasi with Stines and Briggs. She holds offers from Santa Clara, USF, UC Irvine, UCSB, Long Beach State, Pacific, and UCSD. Her new AAU team does not report offers, but an ESPN article said a lot of PAC-12 schools were recruiting her and compared her to Oregon State's Aleah Goodman. She's ranked #75 on ESPN.
Another player who has impressed me is Cal Stars PG Talana Lepolo. She's a 5-7 PG for the Cal Stars and runs the team very well. She attends SJND and is ranked #32 by ASGR. Haven't seen anything pointing to Stanford interest though.
It will be interesting to see if Tara trys to keep the roster at 13-14 the next few years so she has some wiggle room as far as players wanting to return for their fifth season.