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RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - crackpot - 02-10-2022

(02-10-2022, 04:30 PM)Card10Fan Wrote:  If anyone heard Scott Rueck on postgame radio, he lamented that he didn't really understand why OSU had to play a Wednesday game at Stanford leaving his team only  1 day to prepare for their rival Oregon this weekend. 

So OSU was forced to play? Is that a conference decision? How does the conference decide which games have to be made up v. permanently cancelled?


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - TonyLima - 02-10-2022

(02-10-2022, 04:01 PM)bl82 Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 03:40 PM)paloalto Wrote:  I was hoping Elena Bosgana would do well.  This is the first time I've seen her play for Stanford.  Unfortunately she didn't look good IMO.  It's understandable with little if any playing time and coming on the court with a make-shift Stanford lineup.  Hopefully she gets another chance in the next blowout win.

Here's a video of her during her "prep" days.  Yes, the defense in the video is nothing like what she faces in DI competition.

https://twitter.com/EuroBasketWomen/status/1410901068297519104

I too have been waiting for Bosgana to start to look comfortable and let the game come to her.  Early in the year it seemed as if she was a bit of a black hole:  the ball went to her and never came back out.  The fact that she is 0-9 from three has not helped her confidence, though she has looked good on her drives.  The last couple of times I've seen her, she seems more relaxed and in the mode to do whatever she can to help the team rather than immediately trying to impose her offense on the team.  Her defense also seems to be improving.  Clearly she has a high basketball IQ and now I think you are going to see more of it.  I don't know who she usually matches up against in practice, but this must be a steep learning curve for her practicing largely against (I'm guessing here) the Hulls, Hannah and Agnes.

I think the raw material is there, but it might take one of those classic frosh-soph jumps before we start to see what she is truly capable of.

Trust Tara. She sees something there that none of us can detect.


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - 81alum - 02-11-2022

(02-10-2022, 08:19 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 04:01 PM)bl82 Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 03:40 PM)paloalto Wrote:  I was hoping Elena Bosgana would do well.  This is the first time I've seen her play for Stanford.  Unfortunately she didn't look good IMO.  It's understandable with little if any playing time and coming on the court with a make-shift Stanford lineup.  Hopefully she gets another chance in the next blowout win.

Here's a video of her during her "prep" days.  Yes, the defense in the video is nothing like what she faces in DI competition.

https://twitter.com/EuroBasketWomen/status/1410901068297519104

I too have been waiting for Bosgana to start to look comfortable and let the game come to her.  Early in the year it seemed as if she was a bit of a black hole:  the ball went to her and never came back out.  The fact that she is 0-9 from three has not helped her confidence, though she has looked good on her drives.  The last couple of times I've seen her, she seems more relaxed and in the mode to do whatever she can to help the team rather than immediately trying to impose her offense on the team.  Her defense also seems to be improving.  Clearly she has a high basketball IQ and now I think you are going to see more of it.  I don't know who she usually matches up against in practice, but this must be a steep learning curve for her practicing largely against (I'm guessing here) the Hulls, Hannah and Agnes.

I think the raw material is there, but it might take one of those classic frosh-soph jumps before we start to see what she is truly capable of.

Trust Tara. She sees something there that none of us can detect.
There were some games very early in the season where Bosgana looked terrific, other than the fact that she drove left to the basket every single time she got the ball.  But athletic, fearless, and with McPhee-like slashing ability.  Lately her long range shots have looked pretty bad, but that has to be a matter of in-game experience and practice.  Not sure I can judge her defense yet, but she has a Lexie-Lacie type build and should have the reach to cut off passing lanes.  I could easily see her develop into a Lexie-type of player and she may get the chance with the Hulls' graduation.  Keep in mind that she is probably going through something like Alanna Smith went through her freshman year.  Adjusting to California and the language after growing up in Greece is tough enough--but also adjusting to American rules adds complexity to it.  The transition to sophomore year could show gigantic improvement as well as many more opportunities to play.


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - qwerty49 - 02-11-2022

(02-11-2022, 11:09 AM)81alum Wrote:  other than the fact that she drove left to the basket every single time she got the ball

Well....let's also hope she develops the way Hannah did, along several dimensions to become a more complete player.  We do need help at guard the next couple of years.

Fran has developed a very nice ability to finish with her off hand.  Let's hope Elena can do the same.


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - Spiny_Norman - 02-11-2022

I hope that everyone recognizes the improvement that we have seen from November to now on the court from each of the players and from the overall team play. The roles seem settled and the players are communicating well. Watch the switching and recovery on defense. Much better than it was at the start of the season. It's all part of Tara's plan to get this team ready for the NCAA tournament. I would say that they are right on schedule.


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - 81alum - 02-11-2022

(02-11-2022, 01:54 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  I hope that everyone recognizes the improvement that we have seen from November to now on the court from each of the players and from the overall team play. The roles seem settled and the players are communicating well. Watch the switching and recovery on defense. Much better than it was at the start of the season. It's all part of Tara's plan to get this team ready for the NCAA tournament. I would say that they are right on schedule.
Exactly, Spiny.  One of the pleasures of watching Tara's teams is to see the improvement over the course of the year--every single year--heck every single month.  Stanford WBB teams are always far better in April than in November.


RE: WBB: Stanford 82 Oregon State 59 - Maple Leaf - 02-11-2022

(02-11-2022, 11:09 AM)81alum Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 08:19 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 04:01 PM)bl82 Wrote:  
(02-10-2022, 03:40 PM)paloalto Wrote:  I was hoping Elena Bosgana would do well.  This is the first time I've seen her play for Stanford.  Unfortunately she didn't look good IMO.  It's understandable with little if any playing time and coming on the court with a make-shift Stanford lineup.  Hopefully she gets another chance in the next blowout win.

Here's a video of her during her "prep" days.  Yes, the defense in the video is nothing like what she faces in DI competition.

https://twitter.com/EuroBasketWomen/status/1410901068297519104

I too have been waiting for Bosgana to start to look comfortable and let the game come to her.  Early in the year it seemed as if she was a bit of a black hole:  the ball went to her and never came back out.  The fact that she is 0-9 from three has not helped her confidence, though she has looked good on her drives.  The last couple of times I've seen her, she seems more relaxed and in the mode to do whatever she can to help the team rather than immediately trying to impose her offense on the team.  Her defense also seems to be improving.  Clearly she has a high basketball IQ and now I think you are going to see more of it.  I don't know who she usually matches up against in practice, but this must be a steep learning curve for her practicing largely against (I'm guessing here) the Hulls, Hannah and Agnes.

I think the raw material is there, but it might take one of those classic frosh-soph jumps before we start to see what she is truly capable of.

Trust Tara. She sees something there that none of us can detect.
There were some games very early in the season where Bosgana looked terrific, other than the fact that she drove left to the basket every single time she got the ball.  But athletic, fearless, and with McPhee-like slashing ability.  Lately her long range shots have looked pretty bad, but that has to be a matter of in-game experience and practice.  Not sure I can judge her defense yet, but she has a Lexie-Lacie type build and should have the reach to cut off passing lanes.  I could easily see her develop into a Lexie-type of player and she may get the chance with the Hulls' graduation.  Keep in mind that she is probably going through something like Alanna Smith went through her freshman year.  Adjusting to California and the language after growing up in Greece is tough enough--but also adjusting to American rules adds complexity to it.  The transition to sophomore year could show gigantic improvement as well as many more opportunities to play.

Add to the adjustment factors mentioned above this thing called COVID!