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RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - 82lsju - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 03:25 PM)burger Wrote:(03-09-2022, 03:23 PM)Austroturf Wrote: We were down by 14 points with 180 seconds to play. Unbelievable. We outscored the Sun Devils 16-1 in those three minutes.ESPN had us with a 0.6% chance to win at 3:00 to go.
so there was a chance...
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - martyup - 03-09-2022
I missed the game and only found out what happened by reading this thread. Is Bobby Hurley still alive and not incarcerated? Because I've got to think that he either dropped dead of a heart attack or punched a ref (or Hasse).
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - 2006alum - 03-09-2022
Is it bad that I'm annoyed we won because there's now a slightly more plausible change we're stuck with Haase for another year?
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - martyup - 03-09-2022
Keefe with a double-double!
(03-09-2022, 03:51 PM)2006alum Wrote: Is it bad that I'm annoyed we won because there's now a slightly more plausible change we're stuck with Haase for another year?
Down 16 with 3 minutes to play is not a good look for a coach. I'm not sure the miracle comeback can be credited to Hasse.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - teejers1 - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 03:57 PM)martyup Wrote: Keefe with a double-double!
(03-09-2022, 03:51 PM)2006alum Wrote: Is it bad that I'm annoyed we won because there's now a slightly more plausible change we're stuck with Haase for another year?
Down 16 with 3 minutes to play is not a good look for a coach. I'm not sure the miracle comeback can be credited to Hasse.
As you are blasting the guy after one of the most miraculous Ws in Stanford hoops history, can you at least show enough respect to spell his name correctly? It's Haase. [And it's hard not to be exceptionally happy for (a) the players, and (b) the staff, after a comeback like that].
How about resuming the drum beat after AZ breaks out the can of whoop-a$$ tomorrow? At least let them all enjoy today.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - Austroturf - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 03:25 PM)burger Wrote:There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth in Tempe.(03-09-2022, 03:23 PM)Austroturf Wrote: We were down by 14 points with 180 seconds to play. Unbelievable. We outscored the Sun Devils 16-1 in those three minutes.ESPN had us with a 0.6% chance to win at 3:00 to go.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - martyup - 03-09-2022
"not a good look" is blasting? Give me a break. The point is that the players did a great job of executing a 16-1 run to finish the game with a win. I don't think that run will affect any decision that may be made about the coach's continuing employment at Stanford.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - Papa John - 03-09-2022
Watched most of the first half on my lunch break, but missed the second because of work. For everyone else who missed it, here's how the comeback transpired:
3:01 Kimani Lawrence made Dunk. Assisted by Marreon Jackson. 55 - 69
3:01 Foul on Spencer Jones. 55 - 69
3:01 Official TV Timeout 55 - 69
3:01 Kimani Lawrence missed Free Throw. 55 - 69
3:00 James Keefe Defensive Rebound. 55 - 69
2:45 James Keefe made Jumper. Assisted by Brandon Angel. 57 - 69
2:33 Marreon Jackson Turnover. 57 - 69
2:33 Harrison Ingram Steal. 57 - 69
2:32 Stanford Timeout 57 - 69
2:23 Spencer Jones missed Three Point Jumper. 57 - 69
2:20 Brandon Angel Offensive Rebound. 57 - 69
2:19 Brandon Angel missed Layup. 57 - 69
2:15 Brandon Angel Offensive Rebound. 57 - 69
2:15 Brandon Angel made Layup. 59 - 69
2:12 DJ Horne missed Layup. 59 - 69
2:12 James Keefe Block. 59 - 69
2:07 Harrison Ingram Defensive Rebound. 59 - 69
2:05 Spencer Jones missed Layup. 59 - 69
2:02 James Keefe made Layup. 61 - 69
2:01 Arizona State Timeout 61 - 69
2:00 Foul on Brandon Angel. 61 - 69
2:00 Kimani Lawrence missed Free Throw. 61 - 69
1:59 James Keefe Defensive Rebound. 61 - 69
1:57 James Keefe Offensive Rebound. 61 - 69
1:45 Brandon Angel missed Jumper. 61 - 69
1:43 Foul on DJ Horne. 61 - 69
1:43 Harrison Ingram made Free Throw. 62 - 69
1:43 Harrison Ingram missed Free Throw. 62 - 69
1:42 Harrison Ingram Offensive Rebound. 62 - 69
1:42 Jalen Graham Defensive Rebound. 62 - 69
1:41 Foul on James Keefe. 62 - 69
1:38 Jalen Graham missed Free Throw. 62 - 69
1:35 James Keefe Defensive Rebound. 62 - 69
1:28 Foul on Marreon Jackson. 62 - 69
1:28 Spencer Jones made Free Throw. 63 - 69
1:28 Spencer Jones made Free Throw. 64 - 69
1:22 Arizona State Timeout 64 - 69
1:00 Marreon Jackson Turnover. 64 - 69
1:00 Spencer Jones Steal. 64 - 69
0:57 Brandon Angel made Layup. 66 - 69
0:56 Foul on Sam Beskind. 66 - 69
0:56 Marreon Jackson made Free Throw. 66 - 70
0:56 Marreon Jackson missed Free Throw. 66 - 70
0:55 James Keefe Defensive Rebound. 66 - 70
0:42 Spencer Jones made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Michael O'Connell. 69 - 70
0:37 Stanford Timeout 69 - 70
0:09 Jalen Graham missed Jumper. 69 - 70
0:06 Harrison Ingram Defensive Rebound. 69 - 70
0:00 James Keefe made Jumper. 71 - 70
0:00 End of Game 71 - 70
Stanford outscored ASU 16-1 in the last 3 minutes. After Kimani Lawrence's dunk and missed free throw at 3:01, ASU had 8 possessions. They went 0-2 FG (not a typo), 1-4 FT, 2 TOs. What a meltdown, and what a comeback for the Cardinal.
And while Ingram struggled to score, he pulled down 10 rebounds, including the final rebound of the game, had 3 assists, 2 steals and 1 block and only committed 2 TOs.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - teejers1 - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 04:09 PM)martyup Wrote: "not a good look" is blasting? Give me a break. The point is that the players did a great job of executing a 16-1 run to finish the game with a win. I don't think that run will affect any decision that may be made about the coach's continuing employment at Stanford.
Is a 16-1 run to close out the game "a good look," or just one not attributable to the coach?
Look, I fundamentally believe that Haase must be evaluated on the overall body of work (think Samuel McF best summarized this here or on a post on TOS). This last game is part of that body, as will be the AZ game tomorrow, which likely will be an L.
The real point was (a) to ask you to spell the guy's name correctly, and (b) to let the team and staff enjoy this one.
They deserve it.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - martyup - 03-09-2022
Thank you for pointing out my typo on our coach's name. I'll do my best to avoid such errors in the future. I'm pretty sure that nothing I type here will interfere with the team and staff's enjoyment of this win. And by the way . . .
![[Image: ?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-9eC...f=1&nofb=1]](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-9eClv-pjapM%2FUfWZjogm0iI%2FAAAAAAAAAYg%2F1t-YPNIAgIU%2Fs1600%2Fim%2Bnot%2Bgoing%2Bto%2Bbe%2Bsilenced.gif&f=1&nofb=1)
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - 2006alum - 03-09-2022
How much joy should our 16-15 (Massey no. 87th ranked) team take from beating a 14-17 (Massey no. 79th ranked) team by one point? I think that kind of demonstrates the problem I have: even our heroic wins are so utterly irrelevant that it's hard to get excited.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - FarmTeam - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 03:51 PM)2006alum Wrote: Is it bad that I'm annoyed we won because there's now a slightly more plausible change we're stuck with Haase for another year?
I'm thrilled for the guys and was jumping up and down in the final minute, but it's hard not to worry about this stuff. A blow-out loss, which it was looking like until 3 mins to go, to lose the final 6 games "feels" different than this. A miracle comeback in the first game of the conference tournament against a mediocre team -- and it takes two to tango...ASU coughed it up with turnovers and missed free throws (including two front ends of one and ones) at the same time as we finally started hitting some shots -- of course shouldn't save Haase's job or change the view of the season or his tenure. Who knows how Muir thinks though. If we play well in a valiant loss to Arizona tomorrow, it's not that hard to imagine a sell-job that the team was playing hard and showed signs of life despite losing 5 of their last 6. I don't buy it, but the fear is real! In my view there's nothing that could happen from here, short of winning the Pac-12 tournament then getting to the Final Four (!), that should save Haase's job.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - OutsiderFan - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 05:02 PM)2006alum Wrote: How much joy should our 16-15 (Massey no. 87th ranked) team take from beating a 14-17 (Massey no. 79th ranked) team by one point? I think that kind of demonstrates the problem I have: even our heroic wins are so utterly irrelevant that it's hard to get excited.
My thoughts exactly, and all for a chance to be crushed by Arizona. But at least the youngsters had a "March moment."
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - SamuelMcF - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 03:51 PM)2006alum Wrote: Is it bad that I'm annoyed we won because there's now a slightly more plausible change we're stuck with Haase for another year?
The chance was 100%, and is now still 100%.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - BostonCard - 03-09-2022
100% stuck or 100% fired? I figured we were stuck with him, but Bob, who knows about these things has heard rumblings that he would not be back.
I am thrilled for the team. I will never root against Stanford. My hope is that Haase leads the team to an upset of Arizona, and then wins the PAC-12 tournament and takes us to the tourney. The chances of that are vanishingly small, though as someone mentioned, the chances of coming back from a 14 point deficit with 3 minutes to go were also vanishingly small. I’ll take it, enjoy the night, and then go back to arguing that Haase should be fired after we get smoked (in all likelihood) tomorrow.
BC
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - ADPinWDC - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 12:53 AM)M T Wrote: Do you guys go to weddings and say "I'm betting on a divorce in 3 months"?
See a birth announcement and say, "What an ugly kid that's going to be. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for having a baby"?
Frankly, I'm really tired of such negativism. I hope the players on these teams never hear of The CardBoard so they never wander here and see this stuff.
YES -- this baby will be ugly...
AOC & Riley
Amazing comeback
HIGHLIGHTS... Man, go buy a lottery ticket! Spencer Jones with clutch 3s, and Keefe with the throw-it-in at the buzzer!
https://sports.yahoo.com/highlights-stanford-completes...
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - 2006alum - 03-09-2022
(03-09-2022, 12:53 AM)M T Wrote: Do you guys go to weddings and say "I'm betting on a divorce in 3 months"?
See a birth announcement and say, "What an ugly kid that's going to be. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for having a baby"?
Nope. But when the couple fights constantly and has to call the cops to resolve their differences, I think, "gee, I hope they separate." And when the kid isn't provided with adequate food, shelter, and nourishment, at some point I think it's time for CPS to step in.
And that's where I'm at with Haase. Those analogies are much harsher than I wish them to be, but the reality is that I have zero faith that he will ever be able to right the ship, so I'm left to hope against hope that a teacher reports the parents to CPS and makes the suffering end.
ETA: Sorry to be harsh, but we have by far the largest endowment for a D1 school, easily the greatest endowment dollars per undergrad, and we're parents' and students' number one dream school year after year. We have what is unquestionably the best student-athlete culture in the country in terms of recognizing the importance of both the student and the athlete. We've shown we can recruit and admit one and dones, to boot.
I'm simply not willing to tolerate this kind of mediocrity, and while it's not solely Haase's fault, we've been wandering in the desert for the better part of 20 years now, and I'm pretty dang sick of it.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - needle - 03-09-2022
Didn't see a second of the game, but am extremely happy that the team gets at least one highlight memory in what's been a dreadful 3+ weeks to close out a year/career.
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - Sam Leopold - 03-09-2022
Stanford: "We will continue our Vegas magic!!! Wildcats, prepare to face our wrath!!! RRRRRRRRRRR!!!"
. . .
Arizona: "Cool story bro"
RE: MBB: Pac-12 tournament - BostonCard - 03-09-2022
https://pac-12.com/videos/stanford-postgame-press-conference-pac-12-tournament-first-round
Press conference with Haase, Spencer Jones, and Keefe.
BC