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Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - Canalejas - 01-02-2012
I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - Canalejas - 01-02-2012
I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - Canalejas - 01-02-2012
I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - Canalejas - 01-02-2012
I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
Find the area of Shaw's brain that believes in the wildcat - Redrum - 01-02-2012
And neutralize it with a sonic neural probe. Left hemisphere, right hemisphere, amygdala, hippocampus. I don't care where in his brain it comes from, put it out of order. Failing that, don't put Luck out there by the sideline where he is effing useless. Pull him and put in a player could actually, like, help the play. Like a blocker. In the same vicinity as the guy who is going to run it.
Auggghhhh!Â
Now we know the difference between Harbaugh and Shaw. No gunslinger he. Use the last 30 seconds to make progress with the ball in the hands of your best player, your all-galaxy player. Meh.
Find the area of Shaw's brain that believes in the wildcat - Redrum - 01-02-2012
And neutralize it with a sonic neural probe. Left hemisphere, right hemisphere, amygdala, hippocampus. I don't care where in his brain it comes from, put it out of order. Failing that, don't put Luck out there by the sideline where he is effing useless. Pull him and put in a player could actually, like, help the play. Like a blocker. In the same vicinity as the guy who is going to run it.
Auggghhhh!Â
Now we know the difference between Harbaugh and Shaw. No gunslinger he. Use the last 30 seconds to make progress with the ball in the hands of your best player, your all-galaxy player. Meh.
Find the area of Shaw's brain that believes in the wildcat - Redrum - 01-02-2012
And neutralize it with a sonic neural probe. Left hemisphere, right hemisphere, amygdala, hippocampus. I don't care where in his brain it comes from, put it out of order. Failing that, don't put Luck out there by the sideline where he is effing useless. Pull him and put in a player could actually, like, help the play. Like a blocker. In the same vicinity as the guy who is going to run it.
Auggghhhh!Â
Now we know the difference between Harbaugh and Shaw. No gunslinger he. Use the last 30 seconds to make progress with the ball in the hands of your best player, your all-galaxy player. Meh.
Find the area of Shaw's brain that believes in the wildcat - Redrum - 01-02-2012
And neutralize it with a sonic neural probe. Left hemisphere, right hemisphere, amygdala, hippocampus. I don't care where in his brain it comes from, put it out of order. Failing that, don't put Luck out there by the sideline where he is effing useless. Pull him and put in a player could actually, like, help the play. Like a blocker. In the same vicinity as the guy who is going to run it.
Auggghhhh!Â
Now we know the difference between Harbaugh and Shaw. No gunslinger he. Use the last 30 seconds to make progress with the ball in the hands of your best player, your all-galaxy player. Meh.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - wyattp - 01-02-2012
(01-02-2012, 10:51 PM)Robber Baron 83 link Wrote:I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
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Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - wyattp - 01-02-2012
(01-02-2012, 10:51 PM)Robber Baron 83 link Wrote:I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
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Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - wyattp - 01-02-2012
(01-02-2012, 10:51 PM)Robber Baron 83 link Wrote:I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
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Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - wyattp - 01-02-2012
(01-02-2012, 10:51 PM)Robber Baron 83 link Wrote:I can't even formulate my complaints yet. It just hurts. It hurts so much.
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Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - jacketree - 01-03-2012
So does anyone really think that kick would have been good from say 29 yards? Shaw was too busy to watch Williamson freaking out behind the bench on the last drive, so I really can't blame him for ending the game like every other sane coach in America would. They could have run one more play, and I would have run one more play just to burn clock, but a 32 yard field goal from dead center is about as good as it gets for the win. Great snap, great hold, perfect protection. He hooked it. It happens. Bobby Bowden had it happen to him with national titles on the line. Maybe he was too conservative too.
Stanford sort of swallowed the olive in OT, but outside of that, I have no real complaints. Good game between evenly matched teams.
Yeah, the Wildcat didn't work, but I don't think any Stanford drives stalled because of it, so who cares? Um, not every play works and they ran it all of two times. Even Luck's patented WTF pick didn't do any harm. And even that goofy fumble at their own one (Shaw's fault, right?) only cost 3. I was amazed Gundy didn't go for the tug at that point. Maybe he's too damn conservative too.
I know no one wants to just blame the kicker for missing something he should make (would Shaw suck after a thrilling last second win?), but that's the way I'm seeing it. But for The Hook, Stanford wins.
P.S. Harbaugh's gunslingery at the end lost the 2009 Big Game according to a lot of people on this board, so that dude wasn't perfect either.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - jacketree - 01-03-2012
So does anyone really think that kick would have been good from say 29 yards? Shaw was too busy to watch Williamson freaking out behind the bench on the last drive, so I really can't blame him for ending the game like every other sane coach in America would. They could have run one more play, and I would have run one more play just to burn clock, but a 32 yard field goal from dead center is about as good as it gets for the win. Great snap, great hold, perfect protection. He hooked it. It happens. Bobby Bowden had it happen to him with national titles on the line. Maybe he was too conservative too.
Stanford sort of swallowed the olive in OT, but outside of that, I have no real complaints. Good game between evenly matched teams.
Yeah, the Wildcat didn't work, but I don't think any Stanford drives stalled because of it, so who cares? Um, not every play works and they ran it all of two times. Even Luck's patented WTF pick didn't do any harm. And even that goofy fumble at their own one (Shaw's fault, right?) only cost 3. I was amazed Gundy didn't go for the tug at that point. Maybe he's too damn conservative too.
I know no one wants to just blame the kicker for missing something he should make (would Shaw suck after a thrilling last second win?), but that's the way I'm seeing it. But for The Hook, Stanford wins.
P.S. Harbaugh's gunslingery at the end lost the 2009 Big Game according to a lot of people on this board, so that dude wasn't perfect either.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - jacketree - 01-03-2012
So does anyone really think that kick would have been good from say 29 yards? Shaw was too busy to watch Williamson freaking out behind the bench on the last drive, so I really can't blame him for ending the game like every other sane coach in America would. They could have run one more play, and I would have run one more play just to burn clock, but a 32 yard field goal from dead center is about as good as it gets for the win. Great snap, great hold, perfect protection. He hooked it. It happens. Bobby Bowden had it happen to him with national titles on the line. Maybe he was too conservative too.
Stanford sort of swallowed the olive in OT, but outside of that, I have no real complaints. Good game between evenly matched teams.
Yeah, the Wildcat didn't work, but I don't think any Stanford drives stalled because of it, so who cares? Um, not every play works and they ran it all of two times. Even Luck's patented WTF pick didn't do any harm. And even that goofy fumble at their own one (Shaw's fault, right?) only cost 3. I was amazed Gundy didn't go for the tug at that point. Maybe he's too damn conservative too.
I know no one wants to just blame the kicker for missing something he should make (would Shaw suck after a thrilling last second win?), but that's the way I'm seeing it. But for The Hook, Stanford wins.
P.S. Harbaugh's gunslingery at the end lost the 2009 Big Game according to a lot of people on this board, so that dude wasn't perfect either.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - jacketree - 01-03-2012
So does anyone really think that kick would have been good from say 29 yards? Shaw was too busy to watch Williamson freaking out behind the bench on the last drive, so I really can't blame him for ending the game like every other sane coach in America would. They could have run one more play, and I would have run one more play just to burn clock, but a 32 yard field goal from dead center is about as good as it gets for the win. Great snap, great hold, perfect protection. He hooked it. It happens. Bobby Bowden had it happen to him with national titles on the line. Maybe he was too conservative too.
Stanford sort of swallowed the olive in OT, but outside of that, I have no real complaints. Good game between evenly matched teams.
Yeah, the Wildcat didn't work, but I don't think any Stanford drives stalled because of it, so who cares? Um, not every play works and they ran it all of two times. Even Luck's patented WTF pick didn't do any harm. And even that goofy fumble at their own one (Shaw's fault, right?) only cost 3. I was amazed Gundy didn't go for the tug at that point. Maybe he's too damn conservative too.
I know no one wants to just blame the kicker for missing something he should make (would Shaw suck after a thrilling last second win?), but that's the way I'm seeing it. But for The Hook, Stanford wins.
P.S. Harbaugh's gunslingery at the end lost the 2009 Big Game according to a lot of people on this board, so that dude wasn't perfect either.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012
Jacktree, I totally agree. In the aftermath of something like this, everyone has 20/20 hindsight (I know, I know, all the people who say "I knew at the time he should have..."), but would everyone be saying this if, say, Luck goes to hand the ball off to Taylor and it ends up on the ground? Or Luck tries a pass in the end zone and it is tipped and ends up an interception? Then the thread runs something like: "How could Shaw be so stupid? Didn't he see the Bears/Broncos game a few weeks ago when the Bears tried to run for a few extra yards of field position and fumbled?"
Williamson has been great for us all year (though admittedly a bit shakier after returning from his injury). A mi-30s FG is well within his range. It did cross my mind briefly that Shaw should go for a TD, but only when I thought there might be a few seconds left on the clock for a hail mary to Blackmon. Once I realized that there would be no time left on the clock, I have to say I thought he made the right choice. I did think the play calling was really conservative in OT. Gotta give Andrew a chance to win the game there. But I really thought we had this game won in regulation. Congrats to OK State, though, at the risk of sounding like I have sour grapes, I thought the better team lost tonight.Â
My main concern, though, is for Williamson. The kid has been great for us this year, looks like he has a bright future. I hope this is not a "Lord Jim" moment, when a momentary lapse in performance becomes the defining moment of his carreer. Lets hope, for the team's sake and for his, that he learns from this and comes back stronger than ever. He has loads of ability; I hope the coaches don't allow him to lose sight of that fact.
Great season team! Great Stanford carreer, Seniors and graduating underclassmen! Thanks for helping to turn this program around and making us all proud. Personally, I'm really looking forward to watching how everyone, coaches, players, incoming recruiting class, keeps this program developing into the West Coast Football version of Duke Basketball.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012
Jacktree, I totally agree. In the aftermath of something like this, everyone has 20/20 hindsight (I know, I know, all the people who say "I knew at the time he should have..."), but would everyone be saying this if, say, Luck goes to hand the ball off to Taylor and it ends up on the ground? Or Luck tries a pass in the end zone and it is tipped and ends up an interception? Then the thread runs something like: "How could Shaw be so stupid? Didn't he see the Bears/Broncos game a few weeks ago when the Bears tried to run for a few extra yards of field position and fumbled?"
Williamson has been great for us all year (though admittedly a bit shakier after returning from his injury). A mi-30s FG is well within his range. It did cross my mind briefly that Shaw should go for a TD, but only when I thought there might be a few seconds left on the clock for a hail mary to Blackmon. Once I realized that there would be no time left on the clock, I have to say I thought he made the right choice. I did think the play calling was really conservative in OT. Gotta give Andrew a chance to win the game there. But I really thought we had this game won in regulation. Congrats to OK State, though, at the risk of sounding like I have sour grapes, I thought the better team lost tonight.Â
My main concern, though, is for Williamson. The kid has been great for us this year, looks like he has a bright future. I hope this is not a "Lord Jim" moment, when a momentary lapse in performance becomes the defining moment of his carreer. Lets hope, for the team's sake and for his, that he learns from this and comes back stronger than ever. He has loads of ability; I hope the coaches don't allow him to lose sight of that fact.
Great season team! Great Stanford carreer, Seniors and graduating underclassmen! Thanks for helping to turn this program around and making us all proud. Personally, I'm really looking forward to watching how everyone, coaches, players, incoming recruiting class, keeps this program developing into the West Coast Football version of Duke Basketball.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012
Jacktree, I totally agree. In the aftermath of something like this, everyone has 20/20 hindsight (I know, I know, all the people who say "I knew at the time he should have..."), but would everyone be saying this if, say, Luck goes to hand the ball off to Taylor and it ends up on the ground? Or Luck tries a pass in the end zone and it is tipped and ends up an interception? Then the thread runs something like: "How could Shaw be so stupid? Didn't he see the Bears/Broncos game a few weeks ago when the Bears tried to run for a few extra yards of field position and fumbled?"
Williamson has been great for us all year (though admittedly a bit shakier after returning from his injury). A mi-30s FG is well within his range. It did cross my mind briefly that Shaw should go for a TD, but only when I thought there might be a few seconds left on the clock for a hail mary to Blackmon. Once I realized that there would be no time left on the clock, I have to say I thought he made the right choice. I did think the play calling was really conservative in OT. Gotta give Andrew a chance to win the game there. But I really thought we had this game won in regulation. Congrats to OK State, though, at the risk of sounding like I have sour grapes, I thought the better team lost tonight.Â
My main concern, though, is for Williamson. The kid has been great for us this year, looks like he has a bright future. I hope this is not a "Lord Jim" moment, when a momentary lapse in performance becomes the defining moment of his carreer. Lets hope, for the team's sake and for his, that he learns from this and comes back stronger than ever. He has loads of ability; I hope the coaches don't allow him to lose sight of that fact.
Great season team! Great Stanford carreer, Seniors and graduating underclassmen! Thanks for helping to turn this program around and making us all proud. Personally, I'm really looking forward to watching how everyone, coaches, players, incoming recruiting class, keeps this program developing into the West Coast Football version of Duke Basketball.
Re: You have Andrew Luck and you let 30 secs... - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012
Jacktree, I totally agree. In the aftermath of something like this, everyone has 20/20 hindsight (I know, I know, all the people who say "I knew at the time he should have..."), but would everyone be saying this if, say, Luck goes to hand the ball off to Taylor and it ends up on the ground? Or Luck tries a pass in the end zone and it is tipped and ends up an interception? Then the thread runs something like: "How could Shaw be so stupid? Didn't he see the Bears/Broncos game a few weeks ago when the Bears tried to run for a few extra yards of field position and fumbled?"
Williamson has been great for us all year (though admittedly a bit shakier after returning from his injury). A mi-30s FG is well within his range. It did cross my mind briefly that Shaw should go for a TD, but only when I thought there might be a few seconds left on the clock for a hail mary to Blackmon. Once I realized that there would be no time left on the clock, I have to say I thought he made the right choice. I did think the play calling was really conservative in OT. Gotta give Andrew a chance to win the game there. But I really thought we had this game won in regulation. Congrats to OK State, though, at the risk of sounding like I have sour grapes, I thought the better team lost tonight.Â
My main concern, though, is for Williamson. The kid has been great for us this year, looks like he has a bright future. I hope this is not a "Lord Jim" moment, when a momentary lapse in performance becomes the defining moment of his carreer. Lets hope, for the team's sake and for his, that he learns from this and comes back stronger than ever. He has loads of ability; I hope the coaches don't allow him to lose sight of that fact.
Great season team! Great Stanford carreer, Seniors and graduating underclassmen! Thanks for helping to turn this program around and making us all proud. Personally, I'm really looking forward to watching how everyone, coaches, players, incoming recruiting class, keeps this program developing into the West Coast Football version of Duke Basketball.